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The Slow Death of Neon
Rockefeller Center is proposing to rip out its glowing glass signage in favor of LEDs. It joins a heap of others.
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The Slow Death of Neon at Rockefeller Center and Beyond | Christopher Bonanos for New York Magazine (@nymag) https://www.curbed.com/article/rockefeller-center-neon-sign-preservation-landmarks.html[image or embed] -- Signs of the Apocalypse (@ApocalypseSoon.mastodon.social.ap.brid.gy) December 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM
The Slow Death of Neon at Rockefeller Center and Beyond | Christopher Bonanos for New York Magazine (@nymag) https://www.curbed.com/article/rockefeller-center-neon-sign-preservation-landmarks.html[image or embed]
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Monkeys sure do love bright lights and colors. (i am a monkey too)
#1 | Posted by Brennnn at 2024-12-18 05:54 PM | Reply
More from the article...
... Editor's note: On December 17, after this story was published, the Landmarks Preservation Commission voted to allow the NBC neon to be replaced with LED replicas.[emphasis theirs] The first frames in the trailer for Saturday Night, Jason Reitman's film about the beginnings of SNL, show the side entrance to 30 Rockefeller Center, its red glowing letters spelling out NBC STUDIOS, as they have since 1935. It reminds us that we're in Radio City, as the whole Rockefeller Center complex was known in its early decades, headquarters of the Radio Corporation of America. This place is an American monument, the source of RCA's pioneering broadcast systems, the radio networks that in their early days were called NBC Red and NBC Blue, the ones that knitted together American thought as never before. A little later, in the TV age, these studios beamed out Toscanini and Today and Tonight. The entrance carries not just a literal neon sign but a symbolic one: power, news, late nights, modernity, the future, all beckoning. And today, Tishman Speyer is applying to the Landmarks Preservation Commission to scrap it, replacing the glowing neon with cheaper, lower-maintenance, lower-energy LEDs. It's not the only neon in town that's at risk. Great mid-century signage is going dark all over New York, especially in Manhattan. A generation or two ago, Times Square was full of glowing glassworks in every color; now there are barely any to be seen. ...
And today, Tishman Speyer is applying to the Landmarks Preservation Commission to scrap it, replacing the glowing neon with cheaper, lower-maintenance, lower-energy LEDs. It's not the only neon in town that's at risk. Great mid-century signage is going dark all over New York, especially in Manhattan. A generation or two ago, Times Square was full of glowing glassworks in every color; now there are barely any to be seen. ...
#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-18 05:55 PM | Reply
@#1 ... bright lights ...
The bright lights of the NYC area are amazing. So bright.
Back in the day, when I was a college student across the river from NYC in Hoboken, NJ, I could read a book as I sat on the roof of my Fraternity House on a moonless night at midnight.
That is how bright the skies are around NYC at night.
Much to the dismay of astronomers.
#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-18 07:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
www.neonmona.org
#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-12-18 09:22 PM | Reply
@#4
Thank-you for that link.
From that link's About ... www.neonmona.org
... The Museum of Neon Art encourages learning, curiosity and expression through the preservation, collection and interpretation of neon, electric and kinetic art. Neon is a gateway between scientific principles and artistic expression. Neon illumination integrates electrical technology, creative design, and fundamental concepts of physics and chemistry. The Museum of Neon Art is the only museum in the world devoted exclusively to art in electric media, exhibiting electric and kinetic fine art, and outstanding examples of historic neon signs, for over three decades. ...
Neon is a gateway between scientific principles and artistic expression. Neon illumination integrates electrical technology, creative design, and fundamental concepts of physics and chemistry.
The Museum of Neon Art is the only museum in the world devoted exclusively to art in electric media, exhibiting electric and kinetic fine art, and outstanding examples of historic neon signs, for over three decades. ...
#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-18 09:58 PM | Reply
@#1 ... bright lights ... The bright lights of the NYC area are amazing. So bright. Back in the day, when I was a college student across the river from NYC in Hoboken, NJ, I could read a book as I sat on the roof of my Fraternity House on a moonless night at midnight. That is how bright the skies are around NYC at night. Much to the dismay of astronomers. #3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-18 07:46 PM
This explains some things.
LED's are more lumins and higher frequencies.
Very inorganic in comparison.
#6 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-12-19 04:45 PM | Reply
AAAAAAAAAH I SEE NOW.
I would look at this headline and wondered what was wrong with LEON.
chuckle..
btw....your eyesight is not the first thing that goes...
lol
#7 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-12-20 10:32 AM | Reply
Neon is glorious. I used to work for a sign company that did neon work and the glass blowing/bending and combining gasses with coatings to get colors is high art. Great stuff.
#8 | Posted by morris at 2024-12-20 11:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
People probably said similar things about gas lights back at the turn of the last century. More efficient and environmentally friendly options should win out in most circumstances. There will always be room for novelty lighting just like you still see gas lamps at a fancy restaurant or in some people's yards.
#9 | Posted by qcp at 2024-12-20 11:21 AM | Reply
I'm going to miss neon lights. It has a 1950's vibe to it.
#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-20 11:37 AM | Reply
#3 it really surprises me to learn that you were a frat boy.
#11 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-12-20 07:12 PM | Reply
The Neon look is still very popular with the Gen Zers who love all things mid century. I think there will be lots of replicas to keep that vibe going.
#12 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-12-20 07:16 PM | Reply
@#11 ... it really surprises me to learn that you were a frat boy. ...
It was an Engineering college, so things were different.
For example, I was there during the Vietnam War. The campus protests against the war were quite peaceful, indeed, with friends sitting on the grass in the common areas and having debates.
Looking back, it was odd compared to what I saw occurring on other campuses.
But to add to that, my years in the Fraternity taught me so much. I was treasurer for a term. I had to pay the House mortgage each month, put out and collect monthly bills for the room rent of those living in the House (so that I could pay the mortgage each month), do battle with the school's treasury department about money they should have forwarded but did not, etc., etc. The things that most do not associate with Fraternity living. :)
#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-20 07:32 PM | Reply
@#8 ... the glass blowing/bending and combining gasses with coatings to get colors is high art. Great stuff. ...
100% agreement.
#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-20 07:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
There's a wildly popular hot chicken place in L.A. called Howlin' Ray's. They opened a new location in Pasadena at an old Adohr Farms location. When they were demo-ing the facade they discovered an old neon sign. They kept it. They light up the H and R
#15 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-12-20 10:35 PM | Reply
@#15 ... There's a wildly popular hot chicken place in L.A. called Howlin' Ray's. They opened a new location in Pasadena at an old Adohr Farms location. When they were demo-ing the facade they discovered an old neon sign. They kept it. They light up the H and R ...
I don't see that ...
Howlin' Ray's Pasadena Is Already the Most Scorching-Hot Opening of the Year (2022) la.eater.com
Is that link too old, or too new?
#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-20 11:28 PM | Reply
The Dodge Neon died long ago
#17 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-12-21 09:35 AM | Reply
And those huge LED signs along busy roads should be outlawed, they are distracting as hell.
#18 | Posted by Hughmass at 2024-12-22 06:35 AM | Reply
LED is so versatile that you can make an LED sign that looks like a neon sign to the point that it can be almost impossible to tell without close inspection. So the vibe of neon does not have to be lost just because you switch to led.
Also to discount LED as an artistic medium is silly. Once again the versatility of LED allows almost unlimited expression through light. Not to be cracking on Neon artists they do amazing work and have been lighting the dreams of Americans for decades.
What we really need is a push for more artistic LED and less retina searing in your face LED.
#19 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2024-12-22 07:03 AM | Reply
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