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US President Donald Trump's administration says it will "aggressively" revoke the visas of Chinese students studying in the US.

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Exclusive: New student visa interviews are on pause as Trump's admin weighs requiring foreign students applying in the U.S. to undergo social media vetting.

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-- Politico (@politico.com) May 27, 2025 at 11:54 AM

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Besides decreasing foreign money entering the US, the USIC suffers from this. Every student from behind the Iron or Bamboo Curtain that studies in the US is a potential source of intelligence for CIA, DIA, FBI, or NSA.

Link: jstor.org

This is just another idiotic and churlish move by the dangerous amateurs in the Trumpf junta.

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#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-28 11:54 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, China is opening its universities to foreign students.

I mean, it's really obvious who wins this war.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-29 12:16 AM | Reply

I was wondering when this right hook would follow the repeated jabs being delivered to US science.

For better or for worse, this will remove a significant number of junior scientists at the grad student and postdoc levels, which is the primary driver of science as they are the people doing the bulk of the actual hands-on work.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2025-05-29 10:12 AM | Reply

"they are the people doing the bulk of the actual hands-on work."

They are literally doing the jobs Americans don't want to do.
Not many American want to go to college.
Even fewer want to go to graduate school.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-29 10:24 AM | Reply

Thinking back to grad lab it was half Americans half foreigners, mostly Asians. Mostly Indian wives whose husbands worked at Qualcomm on H-1B visas. A few Chinese and a whole lot of "miscellaneous.". www.collegefactual.com

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-29 10:55 AM | Reply

My postdoc institution had a large Chinese student and, especially, postdoc presence. There were even a few Chinese PIs who basically ran labs almost entirely staffed with Chinese students and postdocs. Even many of the technician and staff scientist jobs were filled by Chinese women because their husbands were postdocs and they got a tech job via PI connections.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2025-05-29 11:26 AM | Reply

They are literally doing the jobs Americans don't want to do.
Not many American want to go to college.
Even fewer want to go to graduate school.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-29 10:24 AM

Our #4 granddaughter is not only going to college, she's already nearly a senior after finishing only two years of school. She's attending my alma mater and although she's not studying engineering, I'll give her a break as she's going for a double major in Chemistry and Physics, with a minor in Math. She was awarded a full, four-year tuition scholarship and has already started to take graduate level classes in Chemistry. Her GPA is 3.96 and she was awarded a summer undergraduate research fellowship. She also tutors chemistry students during the regular semester, which includes doing a weekly review for undergrads, which technically she is, despite the fact that this job is usually only offered to grad students.

In addition to her academic work, she runs every day, weather permitting (the school is in the UP of Michigan, and considering that she was born in Dallas and raised in Houston, she adapted very quickly). Last fall she ran her first half-marathon and intends on doing it again this fall. She reads the Bible every morning and hardly ever misses church on Sunday (my brother and his wife live just 30 miles from the campus and she attends church with them, again when weather permitting). She also plays the piano (self taught) and has found at least four pianos on campus where she can play anytime she wishes. And speaking of self-teaching, she's learning Japanese in her spare time. She also draws very complex doodle art using pen & ink on small, 5 1/2 x 4 1/4 card stock. She's drawn several especially for me. She's also been elected to chair a women's group on campus.

Anyway, there are kids who are smart and then there are kids who are scary smart. Our granddaughter is scary smart.

And Oh, one other thing, maybe this Asian thing has something to it. Her mother is half Asian (her maternal grandmother was Korean and Japanese and her maternal grandfather was German American). On her father's side, we're Welsh/Polish on my wife's side and Flemish/German on my side. And while she doesn't look all that much Asian, and her mother never really did anything to promote that part of her heritage at home, she did join the Asian student organization, but had to show them a picture of her mother before they would believe her.

Anyway, we're very proud of our granddaughter, as we are of our other five, but because she decided to go to my alma mater, she's kind of special, at least for me.

OCU

#7 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-05-29 12:18 PM | Reply

An obviious attack on Harvard because that institutiion would not buckle to his dictatorial control. I suspect that stupid Trump started a war against Harvard educated people from many professions who will back their alma mater and enjoy humiliating the loud mouthed village idiot.
Popcorn time!

#8 | Posted by danni at 2025-05-29 12:22 PM | Reply

---- that fat douchebag

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-05-29 12:30 PM | Reply

I mean, it's really obvious who wins this war.
#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-29 12:16 AM | Reply

It's not a war it's a "special economic operation".

#10 | Posted by eightfifteenpm at 2025-05-29 12:30 PM | Reply

It's not a war it's an announcement that American Universities must teach what the Dictator demands or suffer full-o war from the President trying to bankrupt major universities and...prediction here...he will fail like the fat dumb ass he is! I honestly wish Chris Farley, who I loved, was still with us today to play Donald Trump in a movie about his Presidency!

#11 | Posted by danni at 2025-05-29 12:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

My nephew, in his senior year at University of Chicago, has lots of friends who are international students from China. Last summer he visited China and stayed with one friends family in Beijing and another in Shanghai. Very wealthy and apparently very intelligent people. They send their children to top American colleges to prepare them to be the next generation of Chinese aristocracy. Extremely sophisticated and extremely connected. In addition to trying to learn to speak Mandarin, my nephew has a double major in mathematics and computer engineering, and has already received multiple job offers from Silicon Valley with a starting salary of over $250,000. He says almost all of his classmates in math and computer science are international. All apparently with their eyes on the prize. He, and many others in those classes, will be applying to either Stanford or Harvard Business schools in about 3 years after getting actual work experience with major global computer companies. Truly the future hi-tech entrepeneurs of the world.

#12 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-05-29 04:38 PM | Reply

#12

Many of these countries have better pre-university education systems andor more motivated students.

We suck at education and healthcare, among other things; it's hard for the Oligarchs to profit on mass education, and short term profit doesn't need an educated populace.

Especially aiBots on the horizon to compete as much more fiscally efficient resources.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-29 04:54 PM | Reply


We suck at education and healthcare, among other things;

Yet you spend more than everyone trying to have education and healthcare.

There's a lesson there..


it's hard for the Oligarchs to profit on mass education, and short term profit doesn't need an educated populace.

Thats because the Universities are profiting greater than any Oligarch could dream of.

#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-29 05:03 PM | Reply


Meanwhile, China is opening its universities to foreign students.
I mean, it's really obvious who wins this war.
#2 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

You have time, only ~11,000 US students in China Universities, while there are close to 280,000 Chinese students in US Universities.

#15 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-29 05:05 PM | Reply

Is it a net benefit or a net negative for foreign students to come to America for education.

Hint: You have to be moron (or magat scum) to not be able to answer this correctly

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-05-29 05:32 PM | Reply

Third time I have asked that question in various forms over the past couple of weeks,

Can't get ANY response from magat scum

Perhaps even they have an inkling of the self-destruction this will wrought.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-05-29 05:41 PM | Reply

Those Universities are a fundamental asset of The People, and even they suffer corporate corruption in their halls.

Perhaps you've heard rumors of the People's existence in the Constitution, which is of, by, and for the People; which is why Oligarchs have purchased CU and other provisions necessary to make Corporations into Super Citizens; by legalizing Corporate Personhood AND making money equivalent to speech.;... where those with the most money have the most speech, not those who actually make up the bulk of the American People.

Which of course led to the private purchase of ALL politicians, no matter their stand on the policy, as they must have donors to exist; to buy corporate media air time, that actually belongs to the People.

It's the Scam of the Century.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-29 05:47 PM | Reply

#18 was for #14

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-29 05:48 PM | Reply

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