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Texas SpaceX Town Tells Property Owners that They May Lose Rights
Starbase, Texas, has notified some residents that they might "lose the right to continue using" their property as they do today, according to a memo obtained by CNBC.
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Starbase, Texas, warned residents in a notice that they may lose the right to continue using their property "for its current use."[image or embed] -- CNBC (@cnbc.com) May 29, 2025 at 7:53 PM
Starbase, Texas, warned residents in a notice that they may lose the right to continue using their property "for its current use."[image or embed]
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#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-29 10:04 PM | Reply
Womp womp
#2 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-05-30 01:13 PM | Reply
This is an easy one. Hold my beer:
-This country was founded on private property rights. What is being described in the article amounts to a taking of some of those rights from the current property holders. Courts of law do not truck with such takings.
-Assuming those who received the letter and may be affected are fee holders (i.e., they own their land and the improvements thereupon) and that their current use of that land and improvements constitutes a legal, conforming use thereof, a change in zoning like that described then usually makes the land in question and its use a "Legal, non-conforming use". That means the owner (or a lessee of that land and/or improvements) can continue to use the property under the zoning guidelines in place at the time the property was first put into use. (For example, if the land is zoned for retail use and the owner has a retail pharmacy on the site, that is a legal, conforming use so long as the building conforms to the zoning requirements in place at the time the improvements were constructed. If the zoning is later changed to, say, residential, that pharmacy may continue to operate as such, until such time as the improvements are demolished, after which time the land must be then used in a manner consistent with current zoning regulations.)
-The concept of a legal, non-conforming use after a zoning change is widely understood in this country and courts of law see any restriction based on change of zoning (e.g., telling our pharmacy owner he must now use his property for residential) as a taking of property rights, and such cases are almost always won by the property holder.
-All those on the Right complaining about 'too much regulation' quickly become fans of concepts like zoning and legal non-conforming use of land when someone shows up and gets in their face and tries to take the ownership rights of their land...
#3 | Posted by catdog at 2025-05-30 01:17 PM | Reply
Do you really think Texas won't impose imminent domain to appease Herr Musk?
#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-05-30 01:33 PM | Reply
Courts of law do not truck with such takings. #3 | Posted by catdog
You still take the courts seriously? How quaint. Elon and Trump will just get it in front of their bought and paid for Supreme Court and they'll do away those pesky precedents and rights.
#5 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-05-30 01:37 PM | Reply
Eminent Domain actions require that the state, upon taking, provides 'just compensation', which usually leads to two appraisers battling it out over their valuations of the taken property. The person losing their property has the right to appeal in court, so these matters can drag out a long time with no transfer of the property until the matter is concluded. Most of those doing the taking cannot wait around that long, so usually settle in a relatively fair manner.
As for the courts ignoring property law, remember this is going on in Texas, where property law is maybe a bigger deal than just about anywhere else, because of oil, grazing rights, and also because it's Texas...
#6 | Posted by catdog at 2025-05-30 04:30 PM | Reply
Re 6 One the main reasons it takes so long to build a great big beautiful wall.
#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-30 04:33 PM | Reply
Hi,
Eminent Domain expert here. (my second job as an attorney was eminent domain cases exclusively)
Eminent Domain fights cost lots of money. Most home owners don't have lots of money.
Eminent Domain also doesn't often pay for relocation costs or the costs associated with buying a new home.
This has been your daily update in Why these People are Screwed
#8 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-05-30 04:50 PM | Reply
When are they opening a company store that only accepts X Bucks?
#9 | Posted by jpw at 2025-05-30 06:19 PM | Reply
Same ratio as leprechauns to unicorns.
#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-05-30 09:02 PM | Reply
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