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EPA Proposes Ban on Pesticide Widely Used on Fruits and Vegetables

The ban on acephate comes a week after a ProPublica investigation highlighted the EPA's controversial finding that the bug killer doesn't harm the developing brains of children.

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Organics.

Even oatmeal is safer organic.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-02 11:48 AM | Reply

Industrialization of farming is the dragon chasing its own tail.

How did farming sustain humanity for 5,000 years before pesticides were invented?

Pesticides are a solution looking for a problem. A toxic, environmentally catastrophic solution. The cure is worse than the disease.

But it makes Republican's kids trans, so I guess there's an upside.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-02 11:52 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

How did farming sustain humanity...
#2 | Posted by snoofy

It didn't. Mass starvation was the norm.

#3 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-05-02 12:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Very few fatties out in ancestral humanity's proverbial wilds.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-05-02 12:12 PM | Reply

Mass starvation was the norm many centuries ago.

Starvation has been a political construct for the past 200 years. There's more than enough food for everyone. But it's politically useful for certain people to die. Like when we tried to starve out the Indians by killing all the Buffalo.

Whereas pesticides achieved widespread adoption just 75 years ago. They're completely unnecessary.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-02 12:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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You cut down my green trees
The food you fed my children
Was the cause of their disease

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#6 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-02 12:51 PM | Reply

#5

200 years ago, the population of the planet was about 1 billion people. 75 years ago, it was about 2.5 billion. It's now about 8 billion.

The reality is that it's unlikely that there would be enough food for everyone without pesticides and fertilizers.

The only good news is that world population growth is slowing, and the population will likely peak in about 2080 and start to decline by 2100.

#7 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-05-02 02:55 PM | Reply

"The reality is that it's unlikely that there would be enough food for everyone without pesticides and fertilizers."

Fertilizer yes, pesticides absolutely not.

UN experts denounce 'myth' pesticides are necessary to feed the world
www.theguardian.com

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I had hoped more would have changed in the last 50 years.... for the better, I mean.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-02 03:32 PM | Reply

How did farming sustain humanity for 5,000 years before pesticides were invented?

Pesticides are a solution looking for a problem. A toxic, environmentally catastrophic solution. The cure is worse than the disease.

But it makes Republican's kids trans, so I guess there's an upside.

#2 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-05-02 11:52 AM | FLAG: For thousands of years the fewer crops that survived fed a smaller populace.

Ever notice that organic produce due higher loss per acre from insects, plant disease, etc. My wife and I can afford the higher prices [no biggie] due to the ban, but some families are already hurting and this will drive up their cost more, on top of the higher utility costs from the actions of this administration - oh well, that's life.....

#10 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-05-02 03:38 PM | Reply

How did farming sustain humanity for 5,000 years before pesticides were invented?

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-02 11:52 AM | Reply | Flag

Seriously?

Maybe look at a population graph in your spare time. It's the only way we were able to feed the masses.

#11 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-02 11:08 PM | Reply

The Biden Administration sure does love taking up measures that drive up costs for necessities thus harming the poor and middle class.

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-03 11:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's the only way we were able to feed the masses.

#11 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

I have agree with SNOOFY on this one. We have never been able to feed the masses. Probably because we never tried.

I do believe there are enough resources on this planet to feed everyone. But we "choose" not to do that by how decided to set up our food production and distribution systems and how we have allowed them to evolve.

We produce enough food to feed 1.5x the global population. That's enough to feed 10 billion yet we are at just over 7 billion currently. There is enough for everyone. The problem is our food systems " the way we produce, harvest, transport, process, market and consume food.Oct 9, 2022

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#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-03 12:42 PM | Reply

" It's the only way we were able to feed the masses."

Again, completely false.

Fertilizers have been used for centuries. Food scarcity ended in the 1800s. Pesticides have been in widespread used since the 1940s.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-03 02:37 PM | Reply

Ever notice that organic produce due higher loss per acre from insects, plant disease, etc.
#10 | Posted by MSgt

Ever notice that using cheap poisons on food reduces their price?

Yeah. That's the point.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-05-03 03:33 PM | Reply

Fertilizers have been used for centuries. Food scarcity ended in the 1800s. Pesticides have been in widespread used since the 1940s.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-03 02:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Thank you for proving point. Look at a population graph for those dates and forward.

"fertilizers" may have been used for centuries but with 8 billion people and counting, it's not feasible to plant a fish under each seedling anymore.

Just as it's not feasible to lose 30+% (or more)of crops to pests (and don't forget disease)at those population numbers.

You could always grow your own food and get back with us on the return ratios.

We grow a pretty good size spring and fall garden, have honey bees and are adding more fruit trees all the time. I have a really good idea what pests/disease do to a harvest.

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-03 03:37 PM | Reply

Just as it's not feasible to lose 30+% (or more)of crops to pests (and don't forget disease)at those population numbers.

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Just as it's not feasible for the entire world to eat meat every meal, which is why lab meat is a good idea, which is being banned by republicans because of corruption and masculine insecurity.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-05-03 05:46 PM | Reply

Just as it's not feasible for the entire world to eat meat every meal, which is why lab meat is a good idea, which is being banned by republicans because of corruption and masculine insecurity.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-05-03 05:46 PM | Reply

Then stop eating meat at every meal. We don't do that at my house. You go ahead and eat the lab meat and I'll raise my own, or get it sourced locally from people around where I live.

#18 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-03 11:48 PM | Reply

@#18 ... Then stop eating meat at every meal. ...

But what if meat is not available to eat at every meal?

What then?

#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-03 11:56 PM | Reply

" "fertilizers" may have been used for centuries but with 8 billion people and counting, it's not feasible to plant a fish under each seedling anymore."

Pesticides don't change that fact.

Pesticides highlight that fact.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-04 12:29 AM | Reply

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