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Donald Trump's invitation to address the Libertarian Party's national convention has outraged many members ...

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"But in 50-plus years, the Libertarian Party has never been on the main stage politically and this is an incredible opportunity for us to bring someone who grabs the spotlight and put them on our stage."

Party for Sale!

With this kind of 'reasoning' they should get NK's Kim to come give a talk. That would also get a lot of attention.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-07 03:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

------- losers

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-07 10:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hornberger called the invitation "an abomination," adding that "people have come to perceive that Libertarian Party as right-wing, and he will just be reinforcing that image."

I agree.

#3 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-08 02:41 PM | Reply

Will the worm be available for comments with RFK jr?

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-08 03:22 PM | Reply

#3 Miranda7 Aren't they?

#5 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-05-08 06:12 PM | Reply

Trumpanzee has always depended on other people's money. I wonder how he would do as a capitalist.

#6 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-05-08 07:16 PM | Reply

@#3 ... "people have come to perceive that Libertarian Party as right-wing, and he will just be reinforcing that image." ...

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then maybe, just maybe, it is a duck.


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-08 07:24 PM | Reply

Will someone please let Trump's dumba____ know that the Libertarian Party has an explicit open borders plank in its platform?

You can find it here: www.lp.org

It's Article 3.4.

If libertarians support this imbecile they are even dumber than he is.

#8 | Posted by anton at 2024-05-08 07:27 PM | Reply

Trump looks to cut off oxygen to RFK Jr.
www.newsnationnow.com

... Former President Trump is taking concrete steps to deprive Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of oxygen as they compete for a portion of the same voters.

Trump is going to the Libertarian Party national convention this month and criticized Kennedy, who is running as an independent but who has ties to the party, as "not a serious candidate." Republicans also pounced on the "unhinged" Kennedy last week for saying "red state people are more likely to murder you."

The strong anti-Kennedy sentiment from Trump's orbit comes as polling suggests the independent could take support from the former president, who is looking to galvanize the anti-establishment lane to win the White House.

"Are there lunatics that won't vote for Biden? Are there lunatics that won't vote for Trump?" mused a former Trump campaign adviser. "Yeah, it's a third option."

Many Republicans believe Kennedy, an ex-Democrat whose family has enthusiastically endorsed Biden, will likely take more votes from the incumbent president than his predecessor. They predict Kennedy's still-forming base is coming from displeased Democrats who don't want to support an octogenarian they see as ineffective. Some, they also hope, still respect the Kennedy name.

"I think Kennedy's going to pull real numbers," the former Trump adviser added, expecting more to come from Biden's coalition. ...


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-08 08:41 PM | Reply

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then maybe, just maybe, it is a duck.

#7 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2024-05-08 07:24 PM | FLAG:

Or just maybe it's a mp3. Assuming that Lobertarians are the same as Republicans is just pure laziness.

#10 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-08 09:03 PM | Reply

"I wonder how he would do as a capitalist."

You don't have to wonder, he left a well punlicized list of fsiled businesses which demonstrate exactly how he would do as a Capitalist i.e; he'd be an obvious failure!

#11 | Posted by danni at 2024-05-09 01:50 PM | Reply

Libertarians are just republicans who don't want to be held accountable for the republicans they vote for.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-05-09 04:02 PM | Reply

Libertarians got a real boost when all the GW voters magically became Libertarians, almost overnite.

If we are lucky, all the Trump cultists will turn into frogs after his stench finally departs.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-09 04:11 PM | Reply

ow that the Libertarian Party has an explicit open borders plank in its platform

I wish more of the Republicans who lie about being Libertarians knew about this.

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-09 04:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#13 You'd be surprised how many Liberatarians vote Democrat. Mostly because it is clear you really don't associate with anyone who is not exactly like you.

#15 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-09 07:14 PM | Reply

I've never met a libertarian worth associating with when it comes to having a sensible discussion about politics.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-09 07:20 PM | Reply

"Not everyone wants to admit it, but having a Libertarian on the ballot tends to favor the Democrat in a close race, taking a few percentage points away from Republican candidates and allowing Democrats to squeak by. And that party's November slate could give an edge to Democrats in more than a dozen races."

www.texastribune.org

-it is clear you really don't associate with anyone who is not exactly like you.

That's hilarious. For almost 20 yrs here (god help me!) I've had atheists and leftier than thous to the left of me and far right to nutjobs and Est Repub weasels to the right of me... so your declaration is laughable.

And if you mean away from here, you have no idea at all with whom I do or do not associate.

btw, here's some light reading for you:

"The Liberty Scam

Why even Robert Nozick, the philosophical father of libertarianism, gave up on the movement he inspired."

slate.com

enjoy!

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-09 07:45 PM | Reply

#17 Corky, I apologize. I cited the wrong post number in my reply. You are one of the most open minded people on this forum. My post was in response to #12, SpeakSoftly. Regardless it was a rude so I apologize to you both.

#17 Libertarianism is closer to my outlook than either Republican are Democrat, but I still have MANY reservations about the Libertarian platform, and it has evolved in a bad way over the years. It attracts its share of nutcases, who are attracted to the more extreme planks. It is more of an idealistic philosophy than a realistic political platform, far left in some places and far right in others. I look forward to your suggested light reading.

#18 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-10 08:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You'd be surprised how many Liberatarians vote Democrat.
#15 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7 AT 2024-05-09 07:14 PM | FLAG:

I dabbled with the FedSoc crowd back in my academic years and not a single one of them would ever be caught dead voting for a Democrat. Your claim is laughable. Are you just talking about yourself or something?

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-10 10:31 AM | Reply

It is more of an idealistic philosophy than a realistic political platform

That i agree with. It appealed to me when my life revolved around books. When i got out into the real world i realized how moronic it is in application.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-10 10:39 AM | Reply

I'm not talking about myself necessarily, though I have voted Democrat many times. I'm more talking about the core Libertarian philosophy, not FedSoc, which already selects for Republican orientation. It is like a Venn Diagram. Many people who identify themselves as Libertarians embrace some planks of Libertarianism and reject others, based on how strongly they feel about specific issues. The same could be said for Republicans and Democrats, they are just less likely to openly disagree with the party.

#21 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-10 12:48 PM | Reply

I'm more talking about the core Libertarian philosophy, not FedSoc

Are you really denying the level of overlap between these two groups?

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-10 12:52 PM | Reply

#18

No problemo. You are one of the good ones.

Sometimes what people lack is the ability to Dream...

www.youtube.com

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-10 01:12 PM | Reply

#22 No, there is plenty of overlap between those two groups. Venn Diagram. The people in the overlap form a sub group with its own unique characteristics, some of which not be shared by those outside the overlap (which is why they remain outside the overlap.)

There is some overlap between Marxists and Democrats too, but I wouldn't define that Democrats based on the Marxists I met in college.

Defining a group based on a subset of its members would be a logical fallacy.

#24 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-10 01:46 PM | Reply

#23 Nice four part harmonies. Thanks.

#25 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-10 01:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I have "thrown away my vote" a time or two voting Libertarian when I couldn't stomach voting either candidate.
Friends of BOTH parties told me my vote would only help the other candidate win and tried to guilt me into changing my mind, but I didn't consider my vote "wasted".

My hope was that the increasing relevance of the Libertarian vote will cause politicians from BOTH parties to take notice and consider incorporating the more common sense parts of the Libertarian platform, to grab those voters. I think that would be a good thing for America.

#26 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-10 02:05 PM | Reply

A Libertarian actually WINNING a major election would be a bad thing for America ... .because most of the candidates they have fielded have been nut jobs. If the percentages creep up too high, I'll reconsider this strategy.

#27 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-10 02:09 PM | Reply

There is some overlap between Marxists and Democrats too

Not nearly to the level of overlap between libertarians and the federalist society. Thanks for being unreasonable up front so i can just avoid this conversation.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-10 04:17 PM | Reply

#28 I appreciate your input, always. No offense intended. It called the association fallacy, and the AMOUNT of overlap is irrelevant:

en.wikipedia.org

Nevertheless your response surprised me. I would have expected more overlap between Marxists and Democrats than between Republicans and Libertarians. Are you suggesting that Marxists don't vote Democrat? How do they vote?

#29 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-10 05:29 PM | Reply

Sorry, I meant to say the overlap between Libertarians and the Federalist Society in #29

#30 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-05-10 05:38 PM | Reply

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