Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, May 14, 2025

After the British mandate ended on 14 May 1948, Israel declared its independence. To commemorate the anniversary this year, the IDF killed 60 Palestinians and attacked a European hospital in the Gaza Strip. This murder and mayhem has been bought and paid for by the hardworking American taxpayer who provided Israel with a record $17.9bn since 7 Oct 2023 alone. The US has been heavily subsidizing Israel since 1950. With a massive heatwave about to set over Israel (temperatures reaching 115F in Eilat, 99F in Tel Aviv, and 101F in Jerusalem), the UN reports that 75% of Gazans report a decline in water access over the past month, amid deteriorating sanitation conditions. Sources: Link 1 Link 2 Link 3

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France President Emmanuel Macron called Netanyahu's policies in Gaza 'shameful' and 'unacceptable, but he has not yet recognized the State of Palestine. In Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Dotard Trumpf fecklessly said that people in Gaza "deserve a much better future." AIPAC's mission is to ensure that the US and other Western countries never recognize the State of Palestine and to smear the muqawama (resistance) as 'terrorists.' An international arrest warrant issued by the ICC remains active for Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu. An indictment is merely an accusation. All defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

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"Some Israeli military officials have privately concluded that Palestinians in Gaza face widespread starvation unless aid deliveries are restored within weeks. Israel's government has publicly dismissed warnings of extreme food shortages after it blocked aid deliveries, but an internal analysis concluded that a crisis looms if food supplies are not restored. Since initiating the Nakba, 52,495 Palestinians have been killed, 57 from starvation, and 118,366 wounded or maimed.

The AIPAC talking point is that Arab-Americans that voted for Trumpf are somehow to blame for all of this Murder-Death-Kill, like a rape victim being asked in court why she wore a mini-skirt the day she was attacked. Only 21% of Arab-Americans voted for the Dotard and Palestinians make up 1% of the Arab-American population; 25% are of Lebanese descent. Palestinian fighters resorted to seizing hostages on 7 Oct 2023 in order to exchange them for any number of the thousands of their relatives being held by the IDF without trial or hearing in Israeli prisons. Amnesty International reported the number of Palestinians in Israeli military detention was at a record number before the infamous 7 Oct 2023 raid.

Whether a Democrat or Republican POTUS is in the White House makes no difference to Israel as you can see from the map below.

https://ifamericansknew.org/images/FourMaps2.png

US Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and John Fetterman (D-PA) must go.

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Original: Link 1

Archived link: Link 2

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#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-14 05:46 AM | Reply

Israel has become what they fled Europe from.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-05-14 06:45 AM | Reply

All of you Genocide Joe asshats that voted for the corrupt criminal, look at what you have done.

#3 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-05-14 06:46 AM | Reply

#2 and 3: Hi Nixon. Yup, Jews fled persecution to now become the persecutors. But when you look at the map in the OP, whether an American voted for Kamala or the Dotard in 2024, this is irrelevant to the situation. Benjamin Netanyahu has been in power from 1996 to 1999 and from 2009 to 2021, then 2022 to present. The Likud Party and AIPAC established the platform of 'NO' to a two-state solution in that timeframe, but played lip service to US presidents. Israel distracted us with Iran's so-called nuclear threat while Settlements were getting built. Meanwhile, US economic aid kept flowing in. Under "Genocide Joe," a Democrat, slightly under 50,000 Palestinians were killed during the entire course of 2024. Palestinians in the West Bank have also been getting killed, but at a much more slower rate. The IDF uses small arms fire in the West Bank in order to preserve the Palestinian properties for Settlers.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/618kWDUo1vL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

#4 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-14 07:13 AM | Reply

Where's Censored to say that the Palestinians derseve to be exterminated because they broke out of the Ghetto and killed some guards.

---- Israel. They Never Had Any True Claim to Palestine.

Only Jungle Law. Violence and Oppression are their only "Right to Exist".

With Violence they Came and By Violence they will Fall.

---- Israel.

#5 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-05-14 08:16 AM | Reply

attacked a European hospital in the Gaza Strip.
Posted by C0RI0LANUS

Yeah, shame that Hamas accidentally built a command center to shield its leader under a hospital. Definitely not a Palestinian war crime.

www.politico.eu

Clearly the Jews are to blame, because Hamas terrorists are beyond reproach. Always. At least according to the pro-Hamas crowd like C0RI0LANUS.

#6 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 09:17 AM | Reply

"Clearly the Jews are to blame, because Hamas terrorists are beyond reproach."

One side has killed 50,000 civilians since Oct 7.
One side has killed 1,000 civilians since Oct 7.

Are you sure there's only one terrorist organization active in this conflict?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 10:11 AM | Reply

Weird how the missiles (mostly) missed the multi-story hospital and appeared to be aimed at the ground beside it. Almost as if Israel was targeting underground structures that a terrorist group was attempting to shield using civilians.

Gaza-European-Hospital-35-GX55-N43-VKVNDHGOBI5-KJQ3-KI

Unleash the Useful Western Idiot Outrage!

#8 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 10:14 AM | Reply

If you're not outraged by 50,000 dead civilians, you just might support terrorism!

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 10:16 AM | Reply

If you provide material support to a terrorist organization, you just might support terrorism!

Israeli support for Hamas
en.wikipedia.org

Another alternative to the PLO encouraged by Israeli officials was Islamist politician Ahmed Yassin, a Muslim Brotherhood member who ran a network of mosques, clubs, and schools in Gaza. During the 1970s and 1980s, Israel granted licences and support to Yassin so that he could build and expand his network.[2][18] American research Jonathan Schanzer wrote that "by the late 1970s, the Israelis believed that they had found Fatah's Achilles' heel ... Fatah had become anxious over the growing influence of the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza," saying that the Israelis subsequently "made the ill-fated decision to permit the Brotherhood to operate with relatively little oversight" so that it would undermine the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).[19] In the late 1980s, Yassin's network would evolve into the armed Islamist and nationalist group Hamas.[20]

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 10:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-If you're not outraged by 50,000 dead civilians, you just might support terrorism!

40 million dead civilians during WW 2. Some of them as a result of dropping 2 bombs on them.

I wasn't around for it but doubt there was much of a platform for folks like you running around calling people terrorists if they failed to display enough "outrage" over it all.

We can move on to Korea and Vietnam and even back up to the Civil War if you'd like to count up civilian deaths.

Has America ever passed your purity test?

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2025-05-14 10:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Has America ever passed your purity test?"

Has it ever failed yours?
Was it when Obama got elected?

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 10:39 AM | Reply

Weird how the missiles (mostly) missed the multi-story hospital and appeared to be aimed at the ground beside it. Almost as if Israel was targeting underground structures that a terrorist group was attempting to shield using civilians.
Gaza-European-Hospital-35-GX55-N43-VKVNDHGOBI5-KJQ3-KI
Unleash the Useful Western Idiot Outrage!
#8 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 10:14 AM

What is the total death count?

#13 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-05-14 10:48 AM | Reply

What is the total death count?
#13 | Posted by redlightrobot

What does it matter to you?

A single dead Palestinian terrorist is too much for you. And 10 million dead Jews is not enough (and also, none of those Jews actually died, all a psyop).

If they want to claim the moral high ground, the Palestinian terrorists could surrender at any time. Or at least release the civilian hostages they've been holding on to for the last 16+ months. But never a peep from you or your ilk about that.

#14 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 10:56 AM | Reply

"And 10 million dead Jews is not enough (and also, none of those Jews actually died, all a psyop)."

Are you counting the Holodomor or something?
The number of dead Jews in WWII is six million, not ten million.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 11:01 AM | Reply

"If they want to claim the moral high ground, the Palestinian terrorists could surrender at any time."

As could Israel.
Israel could stop occupying the West Bank at any time.
Israel could have stooped occupying the West Bank at any time in the past fifty years.

Israel had been occupying the West Bank since before Hamas even existed!

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 11:03 AM | Reply

"Has it ever failed yours?
Was it when Obama got elected?"

I voted for Obama. but you're admitting it's all about what you don't get on election day. IT's not actually about dead civilians.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2025-05-14 11:04 AM | Reply

What is the total death count?
#13 | Posted by redlightrobot
What does it matter to you?
A single dead Palestinian terrorist is too much for you. And 10 million dead Jews is not enough (and also, none of those Jews actually died, all a psyop).
If they want to claim the moral high ground, the Palestinian terrorists could surrender at any time. Or at least release the civilian hostages they've been holding on to for the last 16+ months. But never a peep from you or your ilk about that.
#14 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 10:56 AM

You have stats and data and comparative information on everything to justify the genocide to yourself.

What is the Palestinian death count?

#18 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-05-14 11:12 AM | Reply

You have stats and data and comparative information on everything to justify the genocide to yourself.
#18 | Posted by redlightrobot

Population of "Palestine":
1960: 2,100,000
2020: 8,100,000

Worst genocide ever!

#19 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 11:23 AM | Reply

You have stats and data and comparative information on everything to justify the genocide to yourself.
#18 | Posted by redlightrobot
Population of "Palestine":
1960: 2,100,000
2020: 8,100,000
Worst genocide ever!
#19 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 11:23 AM

What is the current Palestinian death count?

Do you need it underlined as well?

#20 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-05-14 11:37 AM | Reply

I voted for Obama. but you're admitting it's all about what you don't get on election day. IT's not actually about dead civilians.
#17 | Posted by eberly

Huh?
What does Election Day have to do with Israel's on going occupation of the West Bank and Gaza?

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 11:38 AM | Reply

What is the current Palestinian death count? Do you need it underlined as well?
#20 | Posted by redlightrobot

Why does it matter? Do you need me to underline that for you? Are you unable to articulate a reason besides trying to tug at our heartstrings with sheer numbers of deaths?

The Palestinians started a war by targeting 1,200 Israeli civilians for rape and murder. And now they cry about their own civilian casualties.

And, unlike when the Palestinians deliberately targeted Israeli civilians for rape and murder, the vast majority of Palestinian civilians deaths appears to be collateral damage. At a rate of about 1:1 for civilian/terrorist. A rate that is about par for the course for civilian casualty ratios in armed conflict. en.wikipedia.org

We killed 100,000 Japanese civilians in our firebombing of Tokyo in one night. en.wikipedia.org I'm sure the Japanese saw that as a war crime. We saw it as a legit military target that reduced Tokyo's ability to contribute to the Japanese war effort by 50%. That's the way war works. Americans have been sheltered from that reality for so long that a sizeable portion of our population erroneously believes that civilian deaths are abnormal.

Tokyo-firebombing

#22 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 12:34 PM | Reply

Censored is Trash.

No respect for human life whatsoever.

I'm glad that Coward Punk has me Plonked.

He's a -----------. A Loser who loves Murderers.

NO Depravity is too much for Him.

#23 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-05-14 01:26 PM | Reply

I have many blank lines in the thread, therefore liars and trolls have commented here but I am unable to read their blasphemies. I have just become aware from a third party that a troll wrote C0RI0LANUS is "Pro-Hamas" (whatever that means). This is an AIPAC talking point to smear and slander critics of Israel, a Pariah AND Rogue state. The other talking point commonly used is the "war" started on 7 Oct 2023. Ethnic cleansing is not a war and as the map in the OP shows, the forced displacement of Palestinians began long before 7 Oct 2023. This troll finds it shocking that the Apaches of today are fighting back with the only tactics, tools, and procedures (TTP) available to them (eg, guerrilla tactics, abduction). The Jewish fighters of the 1944 Warsaw Ghetto uprising would be on the side of the resistance in Gaza today, not on the side of the Israeli Death Forces (IDF).

Israelis are schooled that their lives are more important than Palestinian lives, making killing them with indifference easier. That's why we saw the IDF use Palestinians as "human shields."

US Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and John Fetterman (D-PA) must go.

And thanks to the third party who alerted me of the troll who polluted this thread with hackneyed tropes, AIPAC talking points, and other sacrileges.

;-)

#24 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-14 02:09 PM | Reply

Zionism is a morality-free disease.

#25 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-05-14 02:13 PM | Reply

I am unable to read their blasphemies [...] And thanks to the third party who alerted me of the troll who polluted this thread with hackneyed tropes, AIPAC talking points, and other sacrileges.
#24 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

Islamist religious nutjob says what?

Zionism is a morality-free disease.
#25 | Posted by redlightrobot

And Islamism is chock full of morals. Ones that would result in the deaths/dismemberment of many Useful Western Idiots.

#26 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 02:20 PM | Reply

#25: Indeed it is. Hannah Arendt summed it up similarly: pictures.abebooks.com

#27 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-14 02:31 PM | Reply

There are no good guys in this fight; there's bad guys and more prolific bad guys.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-14 02:53 PM | Reply

US politicians from both parties that receive AIPAC money, support, and endorsements are responsible for this Palestinian Holocaust which has created the next generation of antisemites, Israel-haters, and enemies for America. The Islamophobia that AIPAC generated over the past several decades facilitated the second invasion of Iraq in 2003, the first invasion of Afghanistan in 2002, and the "Forever Wars" that cost the American taxpayer billions and billions of dollars, on top of the appalling casualties.

You can see who the enablers are in the following links:

Sources:

TrackAIPAC

opensecrets

https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/98/9/912734536-americans_die_for_israel1.jpg

#29 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-14 02:58 PM | Reply

Israel Celebrates Holiday By Killing 60 Palestinians

"Only 60?"
-Censored.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-14 03:26 PM | Reply

C0-RI0-LANUS-anti-semtic

Coriolanus-oven

Those are some high quality antisemitic images C0RI0LANUS. I hope Hamas pays you well for your efforts!

H-and-Pal

#31 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 03:28 PM | Reply

Zionism is a morality-free disease.
#25 | Posted by redlightrobot

And Islamism is chock full of morals. Ones that would result in the deaths/dismemberment of many Useful Western Idiots.
#26 | Posted by censored

"Would result"

Oh, a hypothetical.

Unlike the actual 50,000 Palestinian civilians killed by Israel in the past 18 months.

How'd you even get the idea that the ones killing more civilians are the good guys?

Explain it like I'm a small Jewish child who lost his parents when IDF went Hannibal on our Kibbutz.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 03:46 PM | Reply

Hi Snoofy: I can tell by the blank lines in the thread that you are engaged with a callous, cruel and Islamophobic polemicist who will insult you or other progressives anyway. Why bother?

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/vintage-clipart-man-scratching-his-head-questioning-confused-hi-quality-image-bald-questions-as-retro-great-177951981.jpg

#33 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-14 04:00 PM | Reply

I can tell by the blank lines in the thread that you are engaged with a callous, cruel and Islamophobic polemicist
#33 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

Polemics
famous polemicists have included satirist Jonathan Swift, Italian physicist and mathematician Galileo, French theologian Jean Calvin, French Enlightenment writer, historian, and philosopher Voltaire, Russian author Leo Tolstoy, socialist philosophers Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, novelist George Orwell, playwright George Bernard Shaw, communist revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, linguist Noam Chomsky, social critics H.L. Mencken, Christopher Hitchens and Peter Hitchens, and existential philosophers Sren Kierkegaard and Friedrich Nietzsche.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polemic
Kind of you to say, but flattery will get you nowhere. But I realize that you will not see my words. For they are
haram!

Aloha, snackbar!

#34 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 04:20 PM | Reply

I guess it was too hard to explain it like I'm a small Jewish child who lost his parents when IDF went Hannibal on our Kibbutz.

Maybe ask your Rabbi to stop by and explain it to me?

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 05:15 PM | Reply

Zionism is a morality-free disease.
#25 | Posted by redlightrobot
And Islamism is chock full of morals. Ones that would result in the deaths/dismemberment of many Useful Western Idiots.
#26 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 02:20 PM

Zionism is not Judaism or Christianity.

It is a political party of religious extremism mainly composed of American Christians with the most ardent and violent currently being Israeli Jews.

That comparison is very tenuous as it can be ramped up on students and academics anyplace at the drop of a flag.

The Israeli are direct in outright stating that all Arabs should be exterminated from the region.

They do not view Palestinians as anything less than dangerous enemies. This is re-enforced on Israeli television non-stop.

They are not introduced to the word "Palestine" or "Palestinians". Their erasure has been a long-term production.

You remain incapable of being forthright or honest, instead couching behind Islam.

There is a death count.

What is preventing you from posting the most honest answer you can provide?

#36 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-05-14 07:04 PM | Reply

"The Israeli are direct in outright stating that all Arabs should be exterminated from the region."

^
They will never acknowledge that fact.
They barely acknowledge Israel exists.
They will only ever comment on Hamas.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 07:07 PM | Reply

The Israeli are direct in outright stating that all Arabs should be exterminated from the region.

Is that right? Then maybe they should take care of the 25% of their citizens that are Arab/Muslim. Enjoying far more rights than they would anywhere else in the Arab world. You know what they say, "It all starts at home."

They do not view Palestinians as anything less than dangerous enemies.
Then they should do something about the 1.9 million Palestinians to whom they have accidentally granted Israeli citizenship. https://imeu.org/article/fact-sheet-palestinian-citizens-of-israel

Maybe it slipped their mind. Or maybe you are full of antisemitic sheet.

You remain incapable of being forthright or honest, instead couching behind Islam. There is a death count. What is preventing you from posting the most honest answer you can provide?
#36 | Posted by redlightrobot

How many Israeli civilians did the Palestinians rape and murder on October 7th? Crickets from you or outright denial. So why should I bother humoring whatever point you're trying to make? You literally post blood libel claiming that Jews use Palestinian children's blood to make matzah bread. And you and the other Islamist posters here expect to be taken seriously.

If it bothers you so much, write a letter to Trump, since you guys helped elect him to office. Maybe he'll wipe his butt with your pleas and give himself hemorrhoids.

#38 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-14 07:32 PM | Reply

"Is that right?"

Israel is committed to Arabs having no national political representation from the river to the sea.
Israel is committed that a Palestinian state doesn't exist and will never exist.
From this vantage point, it is Israel that started a war territorial conquest against Arabs and "Palestinians" in 1948.
The goal has always been to conquer, never to peacefully share Eretz Yisrael with any other nations.

"Then maybe they should take care of the 25% of their citizens that are Arab/Muslim"

There's no need to do that any more than Northern Whites had to get rid of freed Negroes. Or Turkey has to genocide the Kurds. Because their small minority will never amount to a major political power.

If you respond to any of this with a sensible comment if will be the first time.
I won't hold my breath.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 07:43 PM | Reply

Always the Victim. No matter how many they Slaughter.

"Please, help us finish this vital work".

"A Land Without People For People Without Land".

"Making the Desert Bloom".

"So Special, So Divinely Chosen".

"The Six Million Cry Out, Never Again".

The reality is Ethnic Bigots killing for Land and Water.

Taking from others Illegally with Murder and Oppression.

For 80 years.

Now they want to "Finish It". Amalek must Die....

#40 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-05-14 07:49 PM | Reply

almost like the video I got of a woman dancing and singing to hamas over

butchering and raping....prob in that order....almost 2ooo jews on that day...

--there is no such thing as whataboutism....and I need no thanks

showing you're 2 faced hypocrites is a special job for me...cause it's so easy

#41 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-14 08:44 PM | Reply

We're #1

#42 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-05-15 06:39 AM | Reply

"Israel Celebrates Holiday By Killing 60 Palestinians"

That's nothing compared to how Palestinians celebrated October 7th.

As a side, did anyone take a moment and pause in remembrance of German Nakba day on May 8th?

#43 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:05 AM | Reply

"Israel is committed that a Palestinian state doesn't exist and will never exist."

And Palestine is committed to extirpating the Israeli state that does exist.

It's kinda tough to reconcile with an adversary that wants to finish what Hitler started.

#44 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:07 AM | Reply

"The Israeli are direct in outright stating that all Arabs should be exterminated from the region."

I'm not aware of that. There are plenty of Arab and Palestinian citizens in Israel. They're mostly the descendants of those who didn't try to wipe the Jews off the face of the planet.

Oh, and even if they were to state that, how is it different than what the Arabs did to the Jews in every last Arab country. Arab countries used to have massive Jewish populations. They were all exterminated or driven out.

#45 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'm not aware of that."

Yes you are.

Youre just refusing to connect the dots on what it actually means that Israel does not acknowledge the nation of Palestine.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:14 AM | Reply

"And Palestine is committed to extirpating the Israeli state that does exist."

What's "Palestine?". Define it like an Israeli.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:15 AM | Reply

"Oh, a hypothetical."

It's not hypothetical at all. First, the destruction of Israel is more important to Hamas than the creation of a Palestinian State. They've said that.

Second, we have the historical precedent of each and every Arab country ethnically cleansing their Jewish populations. Why would a levant under Hamas or some other Palestinian group be any different?

#48 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:15 AM | Reply

"What's "Palestine?". Define it like an Israeli."

Great catch Snoofy! There is no such thing as Palestine. Never has been.

What I meant to say was those who refer to themselves as Palestinians, also a relatively new term.

#49 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:17 AM | Reply

"First, the destruction of Israel is more important to Hamas than the creation of a Palestinian State."

Before that happened, Israel committed herself to the abortion of any nascent Palestinian state, and has been fighting against the emergence of one since 1948.

Israel picked this fight. I don't see why you bother denying it. Hamas is a response to Israel, not the other way round.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:22 AM | Reply

"Second, we have the historical precedent of each and every Arab country ethnically cleansing their Jewish populations"

When did that happen?
After Israel erased 400 Arab villages.

Why did that happen?
Because Israel bulldozed 400 Arab villages.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:23 AM | Reply

"Israel picked this fight. I don't see why you bother denying it. Hamas is a response to Israel, not the other way round."

You must be joking.

It was the Palestinians and their Arab allies who rejected the partition plan, attacking the new state of Israel. One can only imagine what the world would look like today if the Arabs had accepted the partition plan. Like Israel did.

#52 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:31 AM | Reply

"Why did that happen?"

Because they didn't want to share their country with a population with whom they shared little ethnic or cultural identities. Like the National Socialists, they came up with a final solution to the Jewish question.

#53 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:34 AM | Reply

Israel has a right to re-take all of that land, because it comprises the historic Kingdom of Israel.

The NSDAP Office of Colonial Policy (German: Kolonialpolitisches Amt der NSDAP, K.P.A. or KPA) was a Nazi Party office formed in 1934. Its stated objective was to formulate plans for the re-taking of the former German colonies.
en.m.wikipedia.org

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:35 AM | Reply

"It was the Palestinians and their Arab allies who rejected the partition plan"

Israel rejected the partition plan too.
That's why the West Bank is under military occupation.
Because Israel rejected the partition plan.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:37 AM | Reply

Like the National Socialists, Zionists came up with a final solution to the Palestinian question.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:38 AM | Reply

"One can only imagine what the world would look like today if the Arabs had accepted the partition plan."

"Accept the partition plan" means surrender territory to the European invaders.

They already did that. Then fought and lost and surrendered.

Israel, on the other hand, is still expanding her borders and conquering more Palestinian territory. And parts of Lebanon. It's an expansionist colonial state, especially in the West Bank.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:41 AM | Reply

"Israel has a right to re-take all of that land, because it comprises the historic Kingdom of Israel."

Sure.

So do the Italians. It was once part of the Roman Empire.

So do the Turks. It was part of the Ottoman Empire for 400 years.

I guess technically maybe France does as well. The Kingdom of Jerusalem was mostly Frenchies.

But you're right. The Jews are the only ones who can claim a non-colonial claim to the region.

#58 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:42 AM | Reply

"Like the National Socialists, Zionists came up with a final solution to the Palestinian question."

If their goal is to extirpate the Arabs in the region, they're doing an awful job of it. Making them citizens and whatnot.

#59 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:43 AM | Reply

"Accept the partition plan" means surrender territory to the European invaders."

First, the Arabs were invaders themselves, entering the region in the time of the Islamic conquest. Second, they surrendered the territory well before 1948. First to the Christian Crusaders. Then the Kurds under Saladin. Then to the Ottomans. The Brits were simply the last owners of the region before divesting themselves of their Imperial holdings.

#60 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"If their goal is to extirpate the Arabs in the region, they're doing an awful job of it. Making them citizens and whatnot."

They're doing fine.
They have made two five points six million Palestinian refugees.
And people like you say it's the Arab world's responsibility to give those people homes.
Knowing full well it was Israel that took their homes and drive them off the land.

You completely buy into the ethnic cleansing that Israel is doing.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:48 AM | Reply

"They already did that. Then fought and lost and surrendered."

It doesn't look like anyone in Gaza is surrenduring.

Just imagine if one day, the Gazans said, "you know what? ---- Israel. Let's focus on making us better."

A pipe dream, I know.

#62 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:49 AM | Reply

"The Brits were simply the last owners of the region before divesting themselves of their Imperial holdings."

None of this changes the history that European Zionists chose to start a war of occupation.

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:50 AM | Reply

"It doesn't look like anyone in Gaza is surrenduring."

How could they?

They don't have a state that Israel acknowledges to offer up any surrender.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:51 AM | Reply

"You completely buy into the ethnic cleansing that Israel is doing."

It is no more ethnic cleansing than what the western Allies did to Germany in WWII after that country decided to implement their final solution to the Jewish question.

Maybe you regard that as ethnic cleansing as well. I don't. Because the actions taken against Germany were a response to the aggression Germany was inflicting on the rest of Europe.

#65 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 10:52 AM | Reply

"It is no more ethnic cleansing than what the western Allies did to Germany in WWII after that country decided to implement their final solution to the Jewish question."

There's Germans still living in refugee camps?

No.

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:53 AM | Reply

"what the western Allies did to Germany in WWII"

We bulldozed German villages, said it was a new country, and told the Germans they can never return to the land?

No.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:56 AM | Reply

"after that country decided to implement their final solution to the Jewish question."

We didn't do anything because of the Final Solution.
Interfering with the Final Solution was never a military objective.
We were lucky Germany implemented the Final Solution. It stole resources from their war effort.

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 10:58 AM | Reply

"It was the Palestinians and their Arab allies who rejected the partition plan"

So why did the plan go forward, when both parties to the contract were not in agreement with the plan?

Because it was never a plan for peace. It was always a war of aggression and occupation.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 11:04 AM | Reply

"Because it was never a plan for peace. It was always a war of aggression and occupation."

That was definitely the objective of the Palestinians and their Arab allies.

#70 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 11:50 AM | Reply

"We bulldozed German villages, said it was a new country, and told the Germans they can never return to the land?"

We used bombers instead of bulldozers. And the Federal Republic of Germany didn't create itself. And tens (hundreds) of thousands of Germans were forcibly removed from their land and told not to come back. Some by the western allies. Far more by the eastern allies.

#71 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 11:54 AM | Reply

"We used bombers instead of bulldozers"

Did we seize the land afterwards and claim it as ours?
Did we tell the Germans they have no Right of Return?

No.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That was definitely the objective of the Palestinians and their Arab allies.
#70 | Posted by madbomber

Conquering those who stand in their way is what Israel is still doing.

Defending themselves from a foreign invasion is still what Palestinians are trying to do.

They aren't having much luck, but they will keep trying until Israel murders every last one.

This is the choice Israel made when she chose to be born of war in 1948.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 11:59 AM | Reply

"Defending themselves from a foreign invasion is still what Palestinians are trying to do."

Foreign invaders fighting off foreign invaders?

"This is the choice Israel made when she chose to be born of war in 1948."

You really need a history lesson. You're basically saying that, by choosing to exist, Israel chose war. Never mind that the owners of the land divided it as they saw fit, or that Israel had a historic claim to the land, or that the Arabs are the descendants of the people who moved into the area hundreds of years after the fall of Judea during the Islamic conquest.

The people who refer to themselves as Palestinians have little claim to the land. They lost the vast majority of it as a function of wars they started. Or do you want to honor the Vatican if they every point out that the Levant was once part of the Roman Empire.

#74 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 12:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Foreign invaders fighting off foreign invaders?"

Jews claim the land as theirs.
And you accept their claim.

So you mean:
Exiled natives, cleansing their land of the foreign invaders.

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 12:23 PM | Reply

"You're basically saying that, by choosing to exist, Israel chose war."

Yep.
That's exactly what I'm saying.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 12:24 PM | Reply

Much like the South, by choosing to exist, chose war against the Union.

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 12:25 PM | Reply

"The people who refer to themselves as Palestinians have little claim to the land."

They merely lived on it, before their houses were bulldozed.
Bulldozed by those who you claim have a greater claim to the land: European Jews.

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 03:04 PM | Reply

FYI: saxafimedia.com

#79 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-15 03:37 PM | Reply

"Jews claim the land as theirs."

I don't have a claim. The people who owned the land gave it to them.

They also gave land to the people who call themselves Palestinians. But the Palestinians took umbrage with the notion of sharing. With the notion of having to accommodate Jews.

#80 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Much like the South, by choosing to exist, chose war against the Union."

Yeah. remind me the last time Mississippi launched a Katusha rocket barrage on northern aggressors.

#81 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 04:15 PM | Reply

"Palestinians took umbrage with the notion of sharing."

What sharing?

Palestinian homes were taken by force.
Palestinians were exiled by force.
They took umbrage with European Colonists taking their land and their homes.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 04:18 PM | Reply

#79

You say you were military...I would have reported in a hot minute.

Nidal Hasan. You're one of them.

Dudes who get gushy for Islam.

But...I'm sure you can pick up a job with Hamas. Maybe even get a virgin or two out of the deal.

Like ya bois in ISIS did.

#83 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-15 04:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Palestinians took umbrage... With the notion of having to accommodate Jews."

Why wouldn't they?
Why is it Palestine's duty to accommodate Jews?

Britain is the one who chose to accommodate the Jews.
By giving them Palestinian land.
Notice how they did not give them any British land.

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 04:21 PM | Reply

"Yeah. remind me the last time Mississippi launched a Katusha rocket barrage on northern aggressors."

Remind me the last time the North sealed the border and naval blockaded the South, as Israel has done in Gaza for 27 years.

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 04:36 PM | Reply

"Nidal Hasan"

FN Herstal Salesman of The Year!

#86 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 04:38 PM | Reply

I was surprised to see other manufacturers adopting the 5.7x28 cartridge.

But hey, I guess your boy Hasan proven that it works pretty well.

#87 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 04:50 PM | Reply

"Palestinians took umbrage with the notion of sharing. With the notion of having to accommodate Jews."

Jews didn't accommodate Palestinians.
Jews bulldozed 400 Palestinian villages and created 500,000 Palestinian refugees.

The plan was never Accomodation.
The plan was always Partition.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 05:09 PM | Reply

Palestinians took umbrage with the notion of sharing. With the notion of having to accommodate Jews.

So did Americans.

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-15 05:12 PM | Reply

The people who owned the land gave it to them.
#80 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

They gave them that land as a foothold into the Middle East.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-15 05:14 PM | Reply

"They gave them that land as a foothold into the Middle East."

A European Colonialist foothold in the Middle East, even.
The only Democracy in the Middle East, they proudly proclaim.

The creation of Israel was an act of Virtue Signaling.
Those Palestinian savages didn't agree to The Plan, so we just forced it on them.
Seventy seven years later, we are still forcing it on them.

#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 05:17 PM | Reply

static01.nyt.com

#92 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-15 05:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Palestine must Die...So Israel can fulfill their Manifest Destiny in the Middle East...

It doesn't seem so Noble or Exalted when the whole Land Theft, Murder,and Ethnic Cleansing part is considered.

Just Usurpers taking what they Can. For Fun and Profit.

Genocide is part of the Process... Nothing Personal..Policy.

Like When the Trains ran on Time...into Treblinka.

#93 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-05-15 05:38 PM | Reply

So many useful idiots opposing the Jew's right of return.

Meanwhile, back to topic at hand.

Israel bombed that hospital again. Miraculously missing the giant building and hitting the ground next to it, from the sounds of it.

And by an amazing coinkydink, some Hamas terrorists were napping under that ground in tunnels. Definitely not a war crime to use a civilian hospital for cover. Anywho, now they are ex-Hamas.

The IDF suspects that, alongside Hamas leader Muhammad Sinwar, Rafah Brigade Commander Muhammad Shabana, and Hamas spokesman Abu Obaida were also present in the Hamas compound located at the European Hospital in Khan Younis.
Israel has previously stated that it believes that whoever was inside the compound likely did not survive the attack.
Womp, womp!

#94 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-15 06:11 PM | Reply

static.independent.co.uk

#95 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-15 06:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#95 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

Thanks for the comic relief C0RI0LANUS! Funny stuff!

Since you seem to have plenty of free time on your hands, could you hunt down and post some photos of what the Palestinians did to those kids at the music festival on October 7th? Or those babies in their cribs and their mothers? Hunt down the way the Palestinians hunted those civilians down to rape and murder them in cold blood?

Or maybe a photo of what the Palestinians did that woman who was going to the hospital to deliver her baby last night?

Pregnant Israeli woman shot dead in West Bank on way to give birth
www.yahoo.com

#96 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-15 06:48 PM | Reply

"So many useful idiots opposing the Jew's right of return."

Jewish rights aren't the issue.
It's everybody else's rights.

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 08:46 PM | Reply

"could you hunt down and post some photos of what the Palestinians did to those kids at the music festival on October 7th?"

Why?
Did they do something unexpected?

#98 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 08:47 PM | Reply

Imagine being "surprised" when the Untermench savages you're conquering rise up and attack you.

How is it possible to be surprised by that? Only through gross incompetence.

Netanyahu let Hamas attack those Israeli kids because it suits his political agenda.

Netanyahu ensured the Israeli body count was maximized by ordering Hannibal on Israelis and refusing to negotiate with Hamas. Because it suits his political agenda.

It's weird to support that. It's one step removed from supporting Hamas.

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 08:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

pbs.twimg.com

#100 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-16 01:13 AM | Reply

"Why is it Palestine's duty to accommodate Jews?"

Now it's my turn to correct you. There was no Palestine. Never has been a Palestine.

There has been a Judea, so the question might as easily be phrased, why is it Israel's duty to accommodate Palestinians? Especially when it seems like the vast majority of Palestinians want to eliminate the Jews.

#101 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-16 02:23 AM | Reply

Now it's my turn to correct you. There was no Palestine. Never has been a Palestine.

Okay, my turn.

The British called it Palestine, any map before 1948 has it as Palestine.

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-16 02:31 AM | Reply

i.ytimg.com

#103 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-16 03:02 AM | Reply

mediaproxy.snopes.com

#104 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-16 04:28 AM | Reply

Madbomber's Losin' It. What a Loon.

Judea. SAMARIA... Whatever Dude.

Do you still call Poland, The General Government?

Ostland?

#105 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-05-16 02:21 PM | Reply

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#106 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-16 02:29 PM | Reply

#105

So, let's do this within this community of interest. At the same time the UK created the conditions for the establishment of a Jewish state and a Palestinian state in the Levant, they also established the Muslim states of Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Was that wrong as well?

#107 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-16 06:03 PM | Reply

#106

I read a report today where Israel has a plan for a post-Islamist Gaza. It appears to be modelled on the Marshall Plan from WWII.

It worked out very well for Germany. There is no reason it would not work in Gaza.

#108 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-16 06:06 PM | Reply

The Marshall Plan didn't forcibly relocate the population of Germany, though.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-16 06:40 PM | Reply

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