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Universities brought life and livelihoods to college towns across America. Falling student enrollment is now pushing many of these towns from boom to bust"with no end in sight.[image or embed]

" The Wall Street Journal (@wsj.com) May 19, 2025 at 9:30 AM

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"College towns are now threatened by federal-funding cuts from the Trump administration, resulting in hiring freezes and layoffs at Ivy League and state schools alike. Administration efforts to cancel student visas might hurt state college budgets, since most international students pay higher, out-of-state tuition."

Republicans have always hated higher education and are going to great lengths to destroy it.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 12:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"#1 | Posted by snoofy"

The issue is plummeting enrollment at all be the top universities because the liberals have destroyed the ROI on college. Now, you don't actually learn much - it is more of less completely basic high school classes + 1 to 2 years of new information. Of the time spend, 50% of more is spent on classes unrelated to your major - but forced to be taken to guarantee employment for the otherwise unemployable liberal arts PhDs. So, you career prospects are poor compared to prior years because employers know they are not getting an employee with much actual knowledge but a sense of self-entitlement that makes training them difficult. Lastly, they have exploded the cost of the education itself.

As I said - industries controlled by the liberal destroy themselves. College is just the latest example. They are in the process of killing Hollywood and the NBA - and they are well on their way to destroying the US government.

#2 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-20 02:18 AM | Reply

Of the time spend, 50% of more is spent on classes unrelated to your major - but forced to be taken to guarantee employment for the otherwise unemployable liberal arts PhDs.

#2 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-20 02:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

The State of Texas requires you have take something in philosophy, the arts, multiple writing credits, history and politics, science labs, etc, that have nothing to do a CS degree. Abbot the liberal? Mmm, no.

#3 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-05-20 08:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

General Ed credits are to help ensure that graduates are well-rounded instead of robotic psychos

#4 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-05-20 09:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Of the time spend, 50% of more is spent on classes unrelated to your major"

It's called being a well rounded individual.
Not something you are capable of understanding.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 09:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#1
Republicans have always hated higher education, not for their kids...just for the "Poors".

FTFY.

#6 | Posted by Wardog at 2025-05-20 09:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

At my college they were called GURs, or General University Requirements. You could satisfy them with credits from a junior college, like I did, if you were concerned about costs. My major was Communications, and I spent a decade working in commercial radio before, thanks to GURs, getting my MA and changing careers. I did a bunch of different jobs in radio, news reporting, sports, morning show, copy writing, etc. My writing skills were honed by my college History minor and my knowledge base was increased by my GURs. One great reason for GURs is that more than half of college undergrads change majors at least once. My college roommate started as a computer science major, realized it was not his passion, and thanks to GURs got an Education degree and became a music teacher and band director. He has loved his life and career. GED ScottS once again showing his complete lack of knowledge about anything.

#7 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2025-05-20 05:31 PM | Reply

Got a job doin radio promo...

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:33 PM | Reply

"It's called being a well rounded individual.
#5 | Posted by snoofy"

When colleges first began, that was purpose. They made you study Greek classics so you actually understood the thinking unpinning modern society and democratic systems.

That is not what today's college's do. Taking a '3rd world literature class' or even a Anthropology class (after the implementation of the work nonsense) does not make you 'well rounded' - it wastes your time and makes you poor. You are a great example of this.

Let's compare that to Australia - their 3-year bachelor degrees in business focus on - BUSINESS. You are are in and out in 3 years and can choose to take only business related classes. This saves you time and money - and the reality is with 3 years focused solely on business, you get 1 full year of extra training actually in your degree field. 3 years of actual business training is now more of less equivalent to what a US university student would receive with an under graduate degree in business paired with an MBA.

The difference? About 1-2 years in extra tuition paid in US universities that help support the non-marketable PhD graduates. It surely does not help the students.

So, when people complain about their soaring costs of college - the reality is that it is not the cost so much as the ROI due to the actual training you received being watered down by 50% or more with these useless filler classes and employers not increase pay because the graduates are less prepared for the real world.

#9 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-20 08:39 PM | Reply

#2 | Posted by ScottS

Might be the dumbest most ill informed post I have read today.

#10 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-05-21 11:35 AM | Reply

The issue is prohibitive cost. We have effectively priced ourselves out of quality education through our own ignorance and reflexive disgust at all things funded by taxes.

The reason college tuition is exorbitant, is devise forget got involved in the dumbest way possible. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and the idea of wanting college accessible to everyone is wonderful. But the way the government chose to do it is sheer insanity. Government guarantees the loan, and made it not dischargeable in bankruptcy.

So banks will give all the money anyone wants every time they ask for it, because it is risk free to do so. What happens in an environment where the stream of money grows infinitely? The structures supported by that money grow infinitely large.

Well we've reached the breaking point where it's not justifiable to take on the cost of college, compared to the salaries gained at the end from your degree.

By no means am I advocating for financially means testing. That implies looking at families and previous incomes to gage risk. That will leave college for only the rich. That's not a great idea. But the government needs to stop both guaranteeing them and change it so they can be discharged like other debt.

Loans should only be looked at for future earning potential by the banks. In other words: they should only be able to ask what your major is. Engineering, business, nursing, medicine, etc? Yeah those demonstrate real earning potential so sure you will get a loan if you need it ... . But only in line with your future earning potential. Nurses in average make between 75 and 100k. Do they need 150k in loans to get that degree? Probably not. But the doctor or lawyer who has an earning potential much higher probably should get more loans.

You want to major in Eastern Serbian Architecture? Womyns studies? Or any of a million other nearly useless degrees? Have fun funding them yourself.

The net effect is a shrinking pool of resources, which sounds bad ... but it isn't. It will force colleges to be more competitive in how they draw students and how they price themselves in the market.

#11 | Posted by Imshakinitboss at 2025-05-21 12:02 PM | Reply

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