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Friday, December 05, 2025

Rubio: Here's the problem with vetting people. You can't have a perfect vet no matter who that person is, for a couple reasons. The first is we don't -- you can only vet information that exists, right? So it is possible that in many cases there are things about these people you just don't know. No matter how much you vet them, you just don't have certain information. And in some parts of the world where there's very limited documentation, very limited, you can't just go out and interview people in many cases because of the presence of the Taliban, et cetera. It becomes very difficult.

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Rubio: The second thing you can't vet -- you can vet what people have done in the past. You can't vet what people might do in the future. There's another dynamic at play here, and that is you could allow someone into our country who has no history of radicalization, perhaps they even have worked with you in the past, but they are susceptible to radicalization once they enter the United States because they don't assimilate well, because they fall victim to some of this online propaganda and efforts to radicalize people, and two or three years later, you find that they have radicalized.

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Vacuous, vapid, unimaginative, undimensional. USSECSTATE Marco Rubio, who dismantled USAID and dimed out El Salvadorans so the US could deport migrants there, is an Empty Suit.

This lickspittle was vetted for his position based strictly on his fealty to Israel by none other than super-oligarch Larry Ellison.

Source: Israel's Puppet

USSECSTATE Marco Rubio's Official Portrait at Foggy Bottom:


#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-05 11:25 PM | Reply

Whatever happened to presumed innocent bruh?

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-12-05 11:35 PM | Reply

"Here's the problem with vetting people."

They get Second Amendment rights after they get vetted.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-05 11:48 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"They get Second Amendment rights after they get vetted."

That's not how it works.

Vetting doesn't turn someone into a lawful permanent resident.

Gun rights are tied to legal status (citizen or green-card holder), not some vague "vetted" classification.

Undocumented immigrants are still prohibited from possessing firearms under both federal and state law.

#4 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-06 09:41 AM | Reply

"Gun rights are tied to legal status (citizen or green-card holder), not some vague "vetted" classification."

Pretty close.

"The Gun Control Act of 1968 makes it a federal crime for any person who is "illegally or unlawfully in the United States" to possess, ship, transport, or receive any firearm or ammunition. This applies to individuals who entered the country without authorization or overstayed a valid visa."

BUT...

"In a 2024 ruling, a federal district court found the law unconstitutional as applied to an undocumented immigrant with no criminal history who possessed a firearm for self-protection."

legalclarity.org

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-06 10:14 AM | Reply

In other words, a foreigner who is here legally can legally possess firearms.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-06 10:15 AM | Reply

It becomes very difficult.

POSTED BY DBT2

It's become retarded.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-06 10:50 AM | Reply

Snoofy,

United States vs MedinaCantu (5th Cir., Aug. 27, 2024). An appeals court upheld the federal statute that prohibits undocumented immigrants from having firearms.

United States vs CarbajalFlores (7th Cir., July 16, 2025). This court also affirmed the same statute and remains a valid firearms restriction when applied to someone unlawfully present in the U.S.

#8 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-06 01:27 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"In other words, a foreigner who is here legally can legally possess firearms."

You changed your tune. Who says posting never changes anyone's mind?

Earlier you said, "They get Second Amendment rights after they get vetted."

I said you're wrong.

#9 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-06 01:30 PM | Reply

You're saying that people who are vetted are also people who are present in the United States unlawfully?

In that case, tell me what exactly were they being vetted for.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-06 01:35 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"You're saying that people who are vetted are also people who are present in the United States unlawfully?
In that case, tell me what exactly were they being vetted for."

Just go clean your boots.

You stepped in something and you're not going to convince anyone it smells good.

#11 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-06 01:44 PM | Reply

" This court also affirmed the same statute and remains a valid firearms restriction when applied to someone unlawfully present in the U.S."

What you're saying is these folks ARE subject to US laws.

Which means they have Constitutional protections as well.

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-06 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dan,

"What you're saying is these folks ARE subject to US laws.
Which means they have Constitutional protections as well."

They can be arrested, prosecuted, fined, or deported against their will.
Being subject to our laws doesn't mean they're entitled to the full rights of citizens.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-06 01:51 PM | Reply

Go read your constitution. It doesn't say citizens.

#14 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-06 01:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" They can be arrested, prosecuted, fined, or deported against their will."

At will?!?

Total nonsense.

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-06 01:54 PM | Reply

It distinguishes between citizens and persons specifically.

Persons are granted rights. Period. (read the 14th amendment) Citizens can vote and run for office.

#16 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-06 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#11 If you couldn't answer the legitimate question posed in #10, then perhaps you should have just kept your ignorant mouth shut.

Oh, and this coward, BJ boi, has me blocked... would someone be so kind as to pass along my greetings to him/her?

Many thanks!

#17 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-06 01:55 PM | Reply

All persons are subject to due process.

PERIOD.

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-06 01:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Go read your constitution. It doesn't say citizens.

#14 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-06 01:52 PM | Reply

Correction. It doesn't JUST say citizens.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-06 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#13 Okay then BJ boi, other than voting and running for office, tell us what rights do people (who are, after all, in the image of God) not have if they're not "citizens"?

Oh, and this coward, BJ boi, has me blocked... would someone be so kind as to pass along my greetings to him/her?

Many thanks!

#20 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-06 02:01 PM | Reply

This vapid young man occupying the pinnacle position of US diplomacy at Foggy Bottom is walking in the hallowed footsteps of Thomas Jefferson, George C. Marshall, and Dr Henry Kissinger, to name but a few. So important is this position that in 1974 President Richard Nixon addressed his resignation letter to USSECSTATE Henry Kissinger who initialed it at 1135 HRS.

On 1 March 2025, this Empty Head expedited $4bn of American taxpayer funds to Benjamin Netanyahu's despicable Likud regime.

"Let the slaughter begin!"

And don't forget, 'twas Marco Rubella who sabotaged Obamacare when he was a good-for-nothing US Senator representing Florida in 2015. Source: Rubio Undermines ACA.

This unimaginative Empty Head travels around the world in a luxury jet with 24/7 security making an excellent salary padding his already too generous federal pension serving as a messenger boy for Dummkopf Trumpf.

Now he's bleating nonsense that no one can make heads or tails of.


#21 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-06 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Alexandrite is correct. The constitution doesn't say "citizens," the constitution says "persons".

Are these people not persons?

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-06 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Being subject to our laws doesn't mean they're entitled to the full rights of citizens."

Including Due Process?!?

That's accorded "persons". No citizenship required.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-06 02:22 PM | Reply

Dan,

"due process"?

What a segue!

There was a couple of sited court cases on the subject of gun ownership for undocumented immigrants earlier in the thread.

I do personally feel sorry for them. I can see why they want to be here in America.

They appreciate the country, whether or not some liberals seem to, based on how they talk.

I've said before, a fast track to citizenship for qualified individuals would be a good thing.

#24 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-12-06 02:36 PM | Reply

""due process"? What a segue!"

The point is, you're pretending rights are only due citizens. The Constitution disagrees. They're all "persons", according to Jefferson.

Rights from the Creator.

Inalienable.

For "persons".

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-06 02:40 PM | Reply

24. Bill Johnson, constitutional scholar, although no one in his well-read household knew what stare decisis is.

#26 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-12-06 02:44 PM | Reply

"There was a couple of sited court cases on the subject of gun ownership for undocumented immigrants earlier in the thread."

And all of them allowed due process.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-06 02:45 PM | Reply

24. Legal beagle, citer of court cases, hall monitor for Christianity ...

Oh, heaven forfend, where would we be without this gift?

#28 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-12-06 02:47 PM | Reply

- hall monitor for Christianity ...

Made me laugh... 'member the Know Nothing Party?

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-06 02:50 PM | Reply

www.google.com

The resemblance to MAGA Republicans today is striking.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-06 02:56 PM | Reply

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