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Minnesota needs ICE to leave, not an escalation that brings additional federal troops beyond the 3,000 already here. My priority is keeping local law enforcement focused on public safety, not diverted by federal overreach. www.kare11.com/mobile/artic ... [image or embed]

-- Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey (@mayorjacobfrey.bsky.social) Jan 15, 2026 at 10:59 AM

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They had their chance

#1 | Posted by john_savage1 at 2026-01-15 04:00 PM | Reply

They had their chance

#1 | POSTED BY JOHN_SAVAGE1

ICE shouldn't be so eager for street justice.

Karma swings both ways.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2026-01-15 04:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Zed,

Are you actually justifying three men beating an ICE agent with shovels?

Also, ths is a duplicate thread.

Rcade,

Please merge the 2 threads.

#3 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-01-15 08:47 PM | Reply

#3 Liar. Coward. Cuck.

Are you actually justifying ICE being in Minnesota?

#4 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-01-15 09:06 PM | Reply

"Are you actually justifying ICE being in Minnesota?"

I am.

What is ICE tasked with doing?

#5 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-16 05:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I think it is absolutely bananas that people are protesting the US government enforcing US government policy. If you think the policy is bad, you work to change it. You don't just pretend it doesn't exist.

#6 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-16 05:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I think it is absolutely bananas that people are protesting the US government enforcing US government policy.

ICE is snatching people with no criminal records from their cars.

You wouldn't like it if the Stasi did this to you for a trivial offense like a previous conviction for driving without a license.

ICE is also snatching citizens from their cars.

Calling this "enforcing US government policy" is you, deliberately missing the actual thing that's being protested, which is the deliberate cruelty and inhumanity and totalitarian approach of the Feds.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-16 07:16 AM | Reply

"What is ICE tasked with doing?"

Being cruel.

Have you not read any of the 62 or so Executive Orders defining the operating parameters for ICE?

"Expands the focus of arrests of immigrants beyond those who pose a security threat to include anyone who is in the country illegally."
www.propublica.org

This is, quite clearly, not going after the worst of the worst.

And it provides no tangible benefit for the nation, and lots of harm.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-16 07:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I think it is absolutely bananas that people are protesting the US government enforcing US government policy."

The scope of the protests are much wider than that, and to pretend it isn't is disingenuous.

#9 | Posted by sentinel at 2026-01-16 07:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I think it is absolutely bananas that people are protesting the US government enforcing US government policy.

#6 | Posted by madbomber

This way more brain dead than I expect from you.

ICE doesn't exist as a police force.

It exists as a paramilitary, heavy-handedly engaging in official repression, to make a clearly fascist political point.

American citizens are being physically abused; attacked.

You'll note I've been emphasizing AMERICAN CITIZENS in this matter.

That's because it's difficult enough to get you people to care about your own contrymen, much less some random migrant.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2026-01-16 08:24 AM | Reply

I think it is absolutely bananas that people are protesting the US government enforcing US government policy.

#6 | Posted by madbomber

If you and your Air Force unit came home to do what ICE is doing, you'd be hated also. People would react.

Since you are professional military, maybe it's time for you to seriously consider such things.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2026-01-16 08:31 AM | Reply

After defund police.
After defund ICE.

News is putting out that the FBI had their car ransacked and vandalized in Minnesota. Apparently, it was their car with the government papers, body armor, and arms.

Why was the FBI there?

They should leave too?

Defund FBI?

Maybe Trump should send in the Federal agencies he wants abolished. That way, those agencies will be added to the list to defund.

#12 | Posted by Petrous at 2026-01-16 08:49 AM | Reply

"Why was the FBI there?"

Maybe Kash Patel's girlfriend needed a ride?

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-16 08:56 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

-I think it is absolutely bananas that people are protesting the US government enforcing US government policy.

Immigration has been polled and polled and polled. Candidates for office run on immigration and how they are gonna start enforcing our laws and implement a better system that provides a pathway to legal citizenship. Bring these folks out of the shadows, control who comes into our country, etc.....all the same stuff voters have wanted to hear.

And this has been going on forever.

Along comes Trump......the first guy in maybe 40 years who actually takes the issue seriously. Tries to build a wall, now he's ramped up an existing agency to unprecedented levels and is publicly sending them where he can gin up aggravation the most.

Are the immigration reform folks happy now? This is what you voted for.

Politicians for decades have pretty much known that voters will always say immigration reform is a very important issue to them......but they're full of ----. It's not that important.

Trump wasn't in on that....he thinks they were serious.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2026-01-16 09:12 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I think it is absolutely bananas that people are protesting the US government enforcing US government policy. If you think the policy is bad, you work to change it. You don't just pretend it doesn't exist.

#6 | Posted by madbomber

Please explain to me how a Native American deserves to be deported? They, too, are being scooped up here based on the color of their skin. They are scooping up citizens, detaining them for hours, abusing them, then dropping them off far from where they were picked up and you think THAT is right?

How about the ICE people make sure the people they are detaining are, in fact, not supposed to be here. Is THAT too much to ask?

#15 | Posted by Chantresse at 2026-01-16 09:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I think it is absolutely bananas that people are protesting the US government enforcing US government policy. If you think the policy is bad, you work to change it. You don't just pretend it doesn't exist.

#6 | Posted by madbomber

You hit the nail on the head. It is this a segment of the government's "Policy" and not following LAW. Not to mention the Constitution. Since when doesn't actual LAW matter? Obviously these are not all "illegals" they are deporting Americans (yes it has happened multiple times).

ICE is being more than doubled in size and using very loose recruitment to bring in 1/6er types. ICE's use has been expanded far beyond the actual law for what ICE can do into cruel and unusual punishment, excessive force, etc.

If it looks like the gestapo (military fatigues, ARs, etc), talks like the gestapo (One of Ours, All of Yours) and acts like the gestapo (warrantlessly breaking down doors, concentration camps, murdering people, disappearing people, deporting American citizens, no due process, cruel punishments, etc) - IT IS THE GESTAPO. The intent is to create fear of an untouchable "Police" force. You don't get anymore dictator 101 than this. Multiple videos of these thugs threatening people after Good's murder asking if they haven't learned the consequences yet.

I mean get your head out of your ***.

#16 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2026-01-16 01:28 PM | Reply

Dumbbum is a fucking idiot

#17 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-01-16 09:53 PM | Reply

"You wouldn't like it if the Stasi did this to you for a trivial offense like a previous conviction for driving without a license."

Driving without a license is illegal, so let's do driving without insurance. Your positions would seem to be that it's OK to drive without insurance, if you've never been in an accident.

Amiright?

#18 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 02:02 AM | Reply

"Calling this "enforcing US government policy" is you, deliberately missing the actual thing that's being protested, which is the deliberate cruelty and inhumanity and totalitarian approach of the Feds."

Is it cruel and inhumane for CBP to turn people away at the airport who don't have valid entry credentials? Or should CBP be like, "you seem cool, so you can stay."

Like I said, this is Bananas. I live in Germany under specific policy related to my employment. If the circumstances of my employment change, I have 90 days to leave the country. At 91 days, they deport my ass. And no German is going to protest it. They're not even going to bat an eyelash.

#19 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 02:13 AM | Reply

"If you and your Air Force unit came home to do what ICE is doing, you'd be hated also. People would react."

Tangentially related, my best friend's son was on a flight from Tirana, Albania to Austin, where he goes to college. He was stopped at some point and told that they knew he had drugs on him. Because he was coming from Albania. They fucked with him for a while, but obviously he didn't have drugs on him, so they couldn't hold him.

I wish that would happen to me.

#20 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 02:15 AM | Reply

@#18 ... Driving without a license is illegal, so let's do driving without insurance ...

OK, let's do that.

Discussing the latter ...

The lack of insurance seems to be a corporate issue, not a state issue. Loss of profit for a corporation.

The former is violating a state law.

I see a clear difference.

(OK, maybe not so clear. :)     )


#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-01-17 02:16 AM | Reply

I haven't travelled abroad much, but when I have I had to show my passport, I had to go through established ports of entry and had to leave when I was scheduled to leave. That is how a civilized world in this day and age does things.

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-01-17 02:23 AM | Reply

@#22 ... I haven't travelled abroad much, but when I have I had to show my passport, I had to go through established ports of entry and had to leave when I was scheduled to leave. That is how a civilized world in this day and age does things. ...

... and your current alias' point, apropos to the current thread, is ...

???

#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-01-17 02:29 AM | Reply

"It exists as a paramilitary, heavy-handedly engaging in official repression, to make a clearly fascist political point."

Question 1: If people are in the US illegally, should the US government take any action to remove them?

Question 2: Do you believe the US should have an open border policy?

Right now you have two types of people. Those who are going through the wickets to enter the country legally, and those who enter illegally. Maybe a possible third, those who entered legally, but no longer have valid credentials to stay here. It seems like you want to reward those who entered illegally by allowing them to bypass the process required to stay here legally.

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 02:29 AM | Reply

"Right now you have two types of people. Those who are going through the wickets to enter the country legally, and those who enter illegally."

That's irrelevant to the topic of what ICE is doing.
ICE doesn't care whether immigrants are legal or illegal.
The Koreans building a Hyundai factory were here legally.
Most immigrants detained by ICE have no criminal record.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-17 02:43 AM | Reply

@#24

... Question 1: If people are in the US illegally, should the US government take any action to remove them? ...

My answer to that question has always been "yes."

I have said here multiple times, if you are in the Country illegally, you need to leave.

But I have also added the caveat of the effect of that enforcement upon the economy. And Pres Trump seems to be of a similar view, as he seems to be leaving the Red states alone.

... Question 2: Do you believe the US should have an open border policy? ...

No. Period. Full stop.

OK, that aside,what exactly do you mean by "open border policy?"

At this point is seems to be a coined word/phrase that is quite ambiguous.

So, please be specific of your view of "open border policy."

thx.

#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-01-17 02:45 AM | Reply

"Question 2: Do you believe the US should have an open border policy?"

What does an open border policy mean?
Is the United States border open right now?

Name some countries, past or present, with an open border policy.
Name some different border policies and countries that use them.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-17 02:45 AM | Reply

"If people are in the US illegally, should the US government take any action to remove them?"

This should be considered on a case by case basis.
What's the ROI to the taxpayer?

If we removed the people who are here illegally doing agricultural work, the agricultural sector would collapse, because that's half of the labor force.

So, why would any sane economic leader want to remove those people?

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-17 02:47 AM | Reply

@#25 ... ICE doesn't care whether immigrants are legal or illegal. ...

Agreed.

ICE currently seems to be focused upon skin color, speech accent, etc.

Not the legality of being in the Country.

#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-01-17 02:48 AM | Reply

"had to leave when I was scheduled to leave."

No, you chose to leave when you were scheduled to leave.

They weren't going to hunt you down just for hanging around one day past your visa expiration date, though eventually your number might come up.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-17 02:48 AM | Reply

"Most immigrants detained by ICE have no criminal record."

I'm not concerned about a criminal record. I'm concerned about whether they are in the country legally.

The deportation thing is the only thing Trump is doing that I approve of.

#31 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 04:00 AM | Reply

"So, please be specific of your view of "open border policy."

That's a question in and of itself. I obviously can't get into the headspace of the protesters, but it appears that they favor people in this country illegally being allowed to stay in the country illegally. Otherwise, what are they protesting?

US, like other countries, has different policies for different countries when it comes to entering the country legally. For example, you can come to Germany and stay for up to 90 days on a tourist passport. I think it's the same for Germans traveling to the US. But at 91 days, you're no longer legally allowed to be in the country. For immigrants, you generally apply for residency, which allows you to legally be in the country. This allows you to work, pay taxes, buy property, and receive government benefits.

Like I said, I have no idea what the expectations of the protesters are, but it appears that they believe the people who enter the country illegally should have the same rights as those who apply for and are granted residency.

#32 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 04:10 AM | Reply

"So, why would any sane economic leader want to remove those people?"

I am a huge fan of immigration. From the guys and gals who do yardwork, to the guys and gals that are going to put an astronaut on Mars. But it needs to be done in accordance with US policy. Anything else is just laziness and disregard for the US.

#33 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 04:12 AM | Reply

"This should be considered on a case by case basis."

How so?

If someone is in the country illegally, you would let some stay? What status would they have? Tourist? Grant them an extended visa or something?

And my question would be, if they wanted to live here, what not apply for residency?

#34 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 04:14 AM | Reply

@#31 ... I'm not concerned about a criminal record. ...

Yeah, but why, then, does Pres Trump seem to emphasize that he is ~going after~ the immgrants who are violent and criminal?

When his militia is targeting many people based upon their skin color?


As I have said many times in the past, I agree with your opinion that if you are in the Country illegally, you need to leave (with a caveat).

But, Pres Trump's militia now seems to be targeting based upon skin color. And has even gone to the Justice system to continue that aspect of their removals.

So, that leads me to ask ...

>Is Pres Trump's end goal the deportation of immigrants who are not in the Country legally?

>Or is Pres Trump's end goal the cleansing of non-white people from the United States?

A year or so ago, I would be aghast to even think about the latter, I'd have said the former is the reason.

But now, based upon the targeting that I have seen reported, the latter is starting to look a whole lot more correct.


#35 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-01-17 04:23 AM | Reply

"ICE currently seems to be focused upon skin color, speech accent, etc."

ICE is an equal opportunity deporter. Last month they deported an 80-year-old Polish man who had been in the US for decades.

#36 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 04:31 AM | Reply

@#36 ... ICE is an equal opportunity deporter. ...

I remain to be convinced of that.

Racial profiling by ICE agents mirrors the targeting of Japanese Americans during World War II
www.yahoo.com

... And the Supreme Court in September, in its Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo decision, lifted a federal court order that barred agents with Immigration and Customs Enforcement from racially profiling suspected undocumented immigrants.

For now, ICE agents can use race, ethnicity, language and occupation as grounds for stopping and questioning people....



So, Pres Trump's SCOTUS says that racial profiling by ICE is OK.


#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-01-17 04:46 AM | Reply

">Or is Pres Trump's end goal the cleansing of non-white people from the United States?"

Americans make up the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants. The only other two big ones were India and Ukraine.

Surprisingly, the number of illegal immigrants coming from the middle east or Africa is negligible.

#38 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 04:49 AM | Reply

"ICE is an equal opportunity deporter."

Not really. They'll deport anyone, but they're targeting the mud races.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-17 04:55 AM | Reply

"This should be considered on a case by case basis."
How so?
If someone is in the country illegally, you would let some stay?
#34 | Posted by madbomber

You're intent on missing the point and mis-framing the issue.

The question isn't why would I let them stay.
The question is why would I hunt them down.

So, why would you hunt someone down, for overstaying a tourist visa?
Show me how America benefits.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-17 04:58 AM | Reply

And there are reasons people should be removed from this country.

And it worked fine for hundreds of years without ICE being a paramilitary organization doing sweeps and roundups and door to door searches.

I was at work one night at the printing press. Two black SUVs showed up. US Marshalls got out, came into the office, had the foreman or whoever go get the guy working on the night shift. They cuffed him, drove him to Dulles, put him on the next flight to Haiti or DR or wherever.

No need for a $75B government spend.
No need to build camps, just to send people to camps, while they wait to see an administrative judge for final deportation.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-17 05:01 AM | Reply

"I'm not concerned about a criminal record. I'm concerned about whether they are in the country legally."

In the absence of a criminals record, or criminal behavior, why are you so concerned about the civil offense of being here without authorization?

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-17 05:05 AM | Reply

"I'm concerned about whether they are in the country legally."

Let's talk about this concern. How deep it goes.
How about if their legality is such that, they are legal, but we can deport them for writing a bad check, and they write a bad check.
Should the default action be deportation?

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-01-17 05:06 AM | Reply

@#38 ... Americans make up the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants. ...

Depending upon the definition used for Americans.

> anyone in North or South America

or

> White, Christian US citizens

imo, the latter seems to be the definition used more frequently here in the US of late.

While I do not disagree with the former definition, my concern here is the apparent usage of the latter definition by ICE.

... the number of illegal immigrants coming from the middle east or Africa is negligible. ...

So far. imo.

#44 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-01-17 05:09 AM | Reply

"So, why would you hunt someone down, for overstaying a tourist visa? Show me how America benefits"

Two reasons. To discourage immigrants from coming into the US illegally, which seems to be working, as well as encouraging those who want to immigrate to use legal pathways.

There were 14 million people who entered the country illegally in 2023.

Think about that. 14 million people who chose to enter the country illegally, when they could have do so legally.

#45 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 05:14 AM | Reply

"How about if their legality is such that, they are legal, but we can deport them for writing a bad check, and they write a bad check."

Forgive my ignorance, but is writing a bad check a crime? If so, then yes.

#46 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 05:15 AM | Reply

"> anyone in North or South America"

This one.

To me, everyone on an American continent is an American.

As for the race thing, it's a bit conspiratorial for my taste. It's like the claims that Biden was trying to flood the country with illegal immigrants.

#47 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 05:25 AM | Reply

I misspoke. There were 14 million illegal immigrants residing in the US in 2023.

#48 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-01-17 05:43 AM | Reply

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