Monday, July 01, 2024

SCOTUS Completes the Biggest Power Grab in Modern US History

Lisa Needham, Public Notice: As we finally reach the end of another harrowing US Supreme Court term, one overarching theme has emerged: this Court doesn't believe in the separation of powers.

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Conservative members of the SCOTUS are Corporate Sellouts and corrupt.
The SCOTUS need reigning in, and needs to be checked.

#1 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-07-01 11:26 AM

OMFG! They gave Trump Limited Immunity!!

MOST CORRUPT EVER!!!!!!!

#2 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-07-01 11:38 AM

JFC this court has re-established a degree of separation of powers and a limitation of powers

And the writer of the linked op-ed tries to claim the opposite.

This writer is a complete and unmitigated hack.

#3 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-01 11:39 AM

"limitation of powers"

LOL

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-01 11:42 AM

"JFC this court has re-established a degree of separation of powers and a limitation of powers"

Who should be making the decision on the safety and efficacy of the lifesaving drugs that you need to take, the FDA or Matthew Kazmaryk?

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 11:58 AM

All this ruling did was limit these agencies powers to what congress wrote into law. It was never limitless powers to regulate. Even with this ruling these agencies still have tremendous powers. Now those powers have a bit more constraint.

Chevron was an abomination. Overturning it is a huge credit to this court and is a very positive thing for our country.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-01 12:19 PM

It permits insane people to litigate every single decision an agency makes.

See. Mifepristone.

Who should be making the decision on the safety and efficacy of the lifesaving drugs that you need to take, the FDA or Matthew Kazmaryk?

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 12:21 PM

All this ruling did was limit these agencies powers to what congress wrote into law

It actually doesn't do that at all, but nobody ever accused you of understanding legal topics.

#8 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-01 12:26 PM

How come no one will ask this very, very, very simple question?

Who should be making the decision on the safety and efficacy of the lifesaving drugs that you need to take, the FDA or Matthew Kazmaryk?

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 12:30 PM

To give a little perspective, one of the arguments in the Mifepristone case that the -------- who filed the argument made was that many of the approvals for Mifepristone by the FDA were not appropriate. They stated, without factual basis that Mifepristone was unsafe, they relied on some anti-reproductive freedom website posts by anonymous bloggers as "proof". 5th Circuit Judge Matthew Kazmaryk accepted that argument and put a stay on the use of Mifepristone. The stay was lifted by the SC until the argument was adjudicated. The SC found that the -------- who filed the lawsuit did not have standing. They did NOT comment on the merits of the case. Thus, if the standing issue hadn't played out OR if the SC decided not to hear the case, Mifepristone would have been outlawed due to a Federal Judge's interpretation of anonymous blog posts.

Mifepristone is safer than Tylenol.

Who should be making the decision on the safety and efficacy of the lifesaving drugs that you need to take, the FDA or Matthew Kazmaryk?

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 12:35 PM

It boggles my mind that ANYONE would prefer judges to be deciding the safety and efficacy of a drug that they needed to take to save their ---- life.

But, then again, there is jeff.

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 12:43 PM

#11 Rightwingers love judicial activism. It allows them to flex their minoritarian muscleans avoid unfortunate things like "facts."

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-01 12:53 PM

"muscle and"
Stupid phone

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-01 12:53 PM

" It actually doesn't do that at all, but nobody ever accused you of understanding legal topics.

#8 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2024-07-01 12:26 PM | FLAG: "

Yeah, that's exactly what i5 did. Your problem is you've demonstrated that your view of law and politics is purely outcome-based.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-01 03:21 PM

" muscle and"
Stupid phone

#13 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2024-07-01 12:53 PM | FLAG: "

I am horrible at typing on my phone. I understand your irritation.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-01 03:22 PM

Hey Jeff

Who should be making the decision on the safety and efficacy of the lifesaving drugs that you need to take, the FDA or Matthew Kazmaryk?

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 03:29 PM

That's a nonsensical question.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-01 03:35 PM

That's a nonsensical question.

#17 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You do understand that Kazmaryk already did that right? He ruled that an FDA approved drug was no longer approved because of anonymous blog posts. You understand that correct?

Here, I'll repost the facts:

To give a little perspective, one of the arguments in the Mifepristone case that the -------- who filed the argument made was that many of the approvals for Mifepristone by the FDA were not appropriate. They stated, without factual basis that Mifepristone was unsafe, they relied on some anti-reproductive freedom website posts by anonymous bloggers as "proof". 5th Circuit Judge Matthew Kazmaryk accepted that argument and put a stay on the use of Mifepristone. The stay was lifted by the SC until the argument was adjudicated. The SC found that the -------- who filed the lawsuit did not have standing. They did NOT comment on the merits of the case. Thus, if the standing issue hadn't played out OR if the SC decided not to hear the case, Mifepristone would have been outlawed due to a Federal Judge's interpretation of anonymous blog posts.
Mifepristone is safer than Tylenol.

The -------- being the Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine.

This is what you are cheering.

A federal judge ordering a safe drug taken off the market due to anonymous posts.

Not science
Not the federal agency which studied the medicine

A federal judge.

This is what YOU want.

So, answer the question:

Who should be making the decision on the safety and efficacy of the lifesaving drugs that you need to take, the FDA or Matthew Kazmaryk?

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 03:41 PM

Think of it in these terms.

Say a federal judge decided Prolieitall=your preferred medicine, was unsafe and outlawed it over FDA recommendations.

Would you want that?

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 03:42 PM

Your problem is you've demonstrated that your view of law and politics is purely outcome-based.

Not quite. I am personally activist and would prefer that more Dems and leftist judges go balls out on maximizing political ends, especially because Republicans are already doing thay. But that doesn't much affect my ability to coherently analyze a legal issue.

I think what a lot of people dont understand is how indefensible some of the Roberts court rulings are, to the point where even a neutral analysis appears biased . But even ACB is calling them out for their bizarre overreach.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-01 05:19 PM

Republicans finally get their revenge for Nixon's impeachment.

That's what happened today. The culmination of Republican malfeasance fifty years in the making.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-01 05:23 PM

"To start, let's look at how we got here.

All six Republican-appointed justices reached the court with the backing of groups like the billionaire-funded Federalist Society. Trump's three nominees for the court came from a list written by Federalist Society leader Leonard Leo.

The conservative legal movement's aim is no secret: to take us back to the America of the 1920s.

They want to return to a country when the excesses of unregulated capitalism went unrestrained (before plunging the nation into the Great Depression), and systemic sexism and racism went uncontested."

www.msnbc.com

The SC and the Trump GOP is doing what their Gilded Age Bosses want them to do... take the country back to when Robber Barons were Kings.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-01 05:34 PM

I'd like to thank everyone in a swing state who voted third party or chose not to vote.

You helped make this possible.

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2024-07-01 05:38 PM

thanks for the headline...

I'll put that in my "end of democracy

the nadir of American history

it's worse than watergate

and 'he's worse than hitler

song book...

I'm thrilled to report to this chapter of the leftist-dogma KLAN kOOK parrots

that you're hyperbolic hysteria is being promoted from your brothers in hate around

the blog-a-sphere...

it made me feel warm and fuzzy knowing that I can read from a shinning beacon... of leftist lunatics.

happy Canada day !!

#24 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-07-01 06:18 PM

#24

The more word salad, the less said with this idiot.

Completely substance-free, mind-numbing rwing rhetoric 24-7.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-01 07:25 PM

"Say a federal judge decided Prolieitall=your preferred medicine, was unsafe and outlawed it over FDA recommendations.

Would you want that?
#19 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-07-01 03:42 PM | FLAG: "

A question for you, Truth, say Trump is re-elected and appoints his college frat brother Dr. Jimbo to head up the FDA. And Jimbo decides to "regulate" mifepristone, making it illegal. Do you want that decision to stand as the final word? (As it would under the Chevron doctrine) Or would you appreciate the opportunity to take up the matter in the court system, providing you with the opportunity for expert witnesses (other than Jimbo) to present evidence?

Do a little research into the original Chevron decision, where it came from, and be careful what you wish for.

#26 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-01 11:57 PM

" Do a little research into the original Chevron decision, where it came from, and be careful what you wish for.

#26 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7 AT 2024-07-01 11:57 PM | FLAG: "

Bears repeating. It was a gross abdication of power to the executive branch. That has been partially undone and these people can't deal.

#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-02 12:07 AM

And Jimbo decides to "regulate" mifepristone, making it illegal. Do you want that decision to stand as the final word? (As it would under the Chevron doctrine) Or would you appreciate the opportunity to take up the matter in the court system, providing you with the opportunity for expert witnesses (other than Jimbo) to present evidence?

Chevron deference didn't deprive anyone of their day in court. It simply served as a structural legal framework for courts to evaluate regulations in the lawsuits you're claiming couldn't be brought. Without it, it's an activist judge free for all, with SCOTUS conveniently at the top.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-02 12:18 AM

#28. Well, I kinda think the courts are better equipped to interpret and apply law and statutes than unelected bureaucrats but I kind of like the separation of powers thingy we have.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-02 12:28 AM

Not a response to my post in any way.

#30 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-02 12:40 AM

It actually did. Yeah I was snarky. Do you want me to restate it?

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-02 12:42 AM

"28. Well, I kinda think the courts are better equipped to interpret and apply law and statutes than unelected bureaucrats"

Rules too?

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-02 12:45 AM

This writer is a complete and unmitigated hack.

#3 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2024-07-02 05:56 AM

Well, I kinda think the courts are better equipped to interpret and apply law and statutes than unelected bureaucrats but I kind of like the separation of powers thingy we have.

#29 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Except the "bureaucrats" have authority because of delegated legislative power.

By exerting control over them, the courts are usurping congressional authority.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2024-07-02 05:58 AM

This writer is a complete and unmitigated hack.
#3 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

#33 | POSTED BY JPW

Lovely velvet glove work, that, on a self-owned hack. Well done, sir/madam.

#35 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-07-02 06:53 AM

"I kinda think the courts are better equipped to interpret and apply law and statutes"

What a riot. They can't even tell pollution from laughing gas.

Not only did Gorsusch get it wrong, but no one in the SCOTUS chain corrected the error before publication.

THESE are the experts you want to defer to? And not the...well, you know...experts?!?

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-02 12:03 PM

Wow, this is almost VERBATIM of what we heard Reps saying about the SCOTUS ACA decision when all Americans were forced to spend money on a service. You DR kids are going to be really shocked when you get passed your teens/twenties and realize, if you gain even a modicum of objectivity, how these broken record responses from both sides are truly killing this country.

#37 | Posted by humtake at 2024-07-02 12:11 PM

Utterly Corrupt SCOTUS. Not a shred of legitimacy outside
of the more liberal justices. Goes to show what I've been
saying for some time.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for this modern day GOP affiliated everyone,
"to just simply do their job, without injecting totally
partisan politics into everything".

#38 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-07-02 02:01 PM

They are not for ALL AMERICANS,
just THEIR AMERICANS (ie. white, racist, rich, WASPs).

#39 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-07-02 02:02 PM

or the----------- who are so easily manipulated...

#40 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-07-02 02:03 PM

Those "conservative" SC justices sang entirely different tunes at their confirmation hearings.

Worth a read:

Five SCOTUS Justices' Comments on Prez Immunity Come Back to Haunt Them

Five of the six justices who ruled that Trump has absolute immunity for "core" presidential duties sung a different tune at their confirmation hearings ,,,

www.thedailybeast.com

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-07-03 04:24 AM

AU

That could be a back door unintentionally left open for the prosecution albeit an uphill climb.

Still, a subject that could be brought up during an attempt to impeach if President Biden wins a majority in both houses of congress.

If, if, if.

As an aside, I'm wondering if President Biden is in conference with his legal advisers as to what he can do NOW with his newfound status as King Joseph the First.

Or is President Biden too hide-bound to the Constitutional rule of law to do anything at all?

#42 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-03 05:11 AM

AU
I'm not sure I could even identify a genuine "conservative" political leader in the US these days. It's plutocrats and their mob of mouth breathing slogan hooters. And that ain't "conservatism."

#43 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-07-03 07:06 AM

This writer is a complete and unmitigated hack.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER

So .. he's just like you!

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-07-03 01:36 PM

Or is President Biden too hide-bound to the Constitutional rule of law to do anything at all?

#42 | Posted by Twinpac

We'll see what happens ...

If Biden's on camera interview with Stephanopoulos and town halls don't go well we could have a new ticket shortly.

One idea I had was keep Harris as VP and put someone like KY Gov. Andy Beshear at the top. Young, charismatic, experienced, knowledgeable, telegenic, and from a red state. Women and minority voters would feel dissed with Harris remaining on the ticket, and disgruntled Haley voters a viable option to keep Trump out of the WH should Biden withdraw.

Another choice for the top could be WA Gov. Jay Inslee for and older guy with gravitas. Both of them would be great candidates who could pound Trump for the lying and dangerous POS he is. And both are term limited.

And it gives anyone reluctant to vote for either of the current 80-ish candidates someone younger to vote for.

#45 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-07-03 04:29 PM

Women and minority voters wouldn't feel dissed with Harris ...

#46 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-07-03 04:30 PM

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