Tuesday, July 23, 2024

Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake

Joe Biden's decision to drop out and endorse Kamala Harris to succeed him on the Democratic ticket has Donald Trump's team scrambling.

Posted by Corky at 10:32 PM | 31 COMMENTS | permalink

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Republicans may be starting to second-guess their party's pick for vice president.

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Much of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, including the decision to tap Ohio Senator J.D. Vance as his running mate, was structured around attacks on President Joe Biden. But then Biden announced Sunday that he was withdrawing from the presidential race altogether.

Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic.

Vance was a symbol of the Trump team's assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.

"Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance"a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter," Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Trump decried Biden's decision to drop out in a post on Truth Social, writing that his team would have to "start all over again" and asking to be reimbursed for the cost. At the same time, Vance has set straight to work, calling for Biden to resign from the presidency."

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#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-22 05:30 PM

Trump decried Biden's decision to drop out in a post on Truth Social, writing that his team would have to "start all over again" and asking to be reimbursed for the cost. #1 | Posted by Corky

LOL!

#2 | Posted by censored at 2024-07-22 05:39 PM

Fat Donnie Felon is a ------- crybaby.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-07-22 07:36 PM

Who's the sleepy old man in the race now!?

#4 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-07-22 07:38 PM

Trump decried Biden's decision to drop out in a post on Truth Social, writing that his team would have to "start all over again" and asking to be reimbursed for the cost.

What a traitorous criminal fooking baby you guys worship.

How about no you felonious rapist.

YOU GET NOTHING. GOOD DAY SIR.

#5 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-07-23 11:48 AM

Who's the sleepy old man in the race now!?

via GIPHY

#6 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-07-23 11:51 AM

YOU GET NOTHING. GOOD DAY SIR.
#5 | POSTED BY NIXON

So shines a good deed in a weary world.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-07-23 04:10 PM

@#1 ... Much of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, including the decision to tap Ohio Senator J.D. Vance as his running mate, was structured around attacks on President Joe Biden. But then Biden announced Sunday that he was withdrawing from the presidential race altogether. ...

I had wondered if Pres Biden intentionally waited until after the GOP convention to announce he was leaving the race, for that reason.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-23 04:35 PM

I am looking forward to see what the Prosecutor does to the Perverts!

#9 | Posted by iloveyou at 2024-07-23 11:37 PM

@#9 ... I am looking forward to see what the Prosecutor does to the Perverts! ...

Yeah, there's that aspect to play out.

But also, I am interested in watching how the GOP tries to rationalize their VP pick who no longer seems relevant to the race, aside from the fact that he has become a Trump cultist for personal gain.


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-23 11:42 PM

It wouldn't make a lick of difference.

Trump was going down regardless, Harris taking over is just going to make the blue tsunami bigger.

#11 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-07-24 02:25 AM

Let's just sum it all up:

Trump got trumped! LOL

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-24 04:34 AM

MONSON

"Trump was going down regardless"

That's very optimistic. But the truth is, Biden was barely holding his own. The country was faced with choosing loyal to Biden and democracy . . . or risk losing the election to Trump and autocracy.

Biden broke that dam by making the choice for them. He did, what he knew in his heart was the right and selfless thing to do.

On the more cynical (read: political) side, there's not a doubt in my mind that the timing was well planned and on purpose. Biden may be old but he's not stupid.

Trump's campaign got backbenched.

#13 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-24 05:33 AM

As for picking J.D. Vance, a rabid anti-abortionist and a man who speaks with a forked tongue, and who is also out of step with about 80% of the electorate, yeah, he's going to be the albatross hanging around Trump's neck.

#14 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-24 05:54 AM

had wondered if Pres Biden intentionally waited until after the GOP convention to announce he was leaving the race, for that reason.
#8 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2024-07-23 04:35 PM | REPLY | FLAG:BINGO

I think so. It took all the oxygen out of his fake assassination blip to stay in front of the cameras.

Trumpanzee is the MSM. That is how he kept his fat orange face in front of the camera.

#15 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-07-24 06:42 AM

Sorry-what is this string about? I was distracted by the big bald spot on the side of Der Dotards head in the photo. The criminal insurrectionist will look quite different in an orange jumpsuit and no haircare products in his mugshot. Now that's a T-shirt for me ...

#16 | Posted by catdog at 2024-07-24 09:01 AM

JD Vance first VP pick since 1980 to have net-negative rating after announcement

#17 | Posted by qcp at 2024-07-24 09:54 AM

"Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake?"

Because they found out JD really does bang his couch?

#18 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-07-24 12:05 PM

I fantasize that this has been a Dem strategy all along.. Give the Republican a false sense of confidence, even playing up the old man meme of Pres Biden (horrible debate performance). Waiting until after the RNC convention, VP selection.. and then completely change the variables at the last possible moment.

"Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt."
Sun Tzu

"Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak."
Sun Tzu

#19 | Posted by igashosparks at 2024-07-24 01:03 PM

#19 That thought has crossed my mind as well. The last 8 years wouldn't have me assuming that Dems of all people would be politically ahead of the curve, but there is a slight possibility of this being an electoral master stroke.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-24 01:11 PM

"fantasize that this has been a Dem strategy all along.'

Nerf's Political Razor: Never ascribe the cleverness of one side that which is adequately explained by the incompetence of both sides.

#21 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-07-24 01:21 PM

Trumps team requesting Biden drop out is a tactical error. If he does, she is now the president, and acting as such. Running against The vp and running against the president acting in that capacity are vastly different.

The fact that Biden didn't resign, is a deliberate and vindictive choice.

#22 | Posted by ABH at 2024-07-24 02:20 PM

#22 I think Biden staying on as President is brilliant for Dems.

Trump, and foreign adversaries who want him to be President, will almost certainly be cooking up some insane no-win calamities for Sept/Oct to make the current administration look weak/confused/incompetent. Think terror attack, war, etc. Biden can absorb much of the blame for however that ends up looking.

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-24 02:33 PM

That's valid. But the voters seeing President Harris running against Former President Trump Carries much more weight.

I hadn't thought of that, but I still think they are ahead as President Harris.

#24 | Posted by ABH at 2024-07-24 03:29 PM

I don't think a couple months' experience makes enough of a difference to be worth throwing away the benefit of the buffer that a designated punching bag like Biden will provide.

#25 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-24 03:38 PM

You overestimate the intelligence of the American voter. Psychologically, I think that's very powerful.

#26 | Posted by ABH at 2024-07-24 03:45 PM

Your argument also relies on the notion that people are paying attention, and in the end we are arguing how much weight to apply to intangibles which is very subjective. I much prefer the more immediate and obvious asset that having a punching bag to take the blame for all of the manufactured pro-Trump calamities that are likely to arise, rather than the more tenuous incumbency advantage that may have limited impact given its duration.

#27 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-24 04:39 PM

#21 Nerf's Political Razor: Never ascribe the cleverness of one side that which is adequately explained by the incompetence of both sides.

Unfortunately I agree.

#28 | Posted by igashosparks at 2024-07-24 06:08 PM

Look at this from Vance's point of view. When Trump goes down, he takes Vance with him . . . along with any aspirations Vance has for achieving higher office, maybe even President (or Dictator) some day.

Right now, I'm guessing that nobody is more confused than J.D. Vance that he let himself get into this predicament. He was so buoyed up with excitement and self-importance that he underestimated Joe Biden. (a common mistake)

But then, he shoulda known better. As a newbie he shoulda read the manual. Everything Trump Touches Dies.

#29 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-25 06:58 AM

Vance's campaign was financed almost entirely by only a handful of tech billionaires (led by Peter Thiel) who donated tens of millions of dollars.

Vance has only served in the Senate for 18 months, which makes him one of the least experienced candidates to run for high office - except for Donald Trump, of course. Vance has never had to balance a state budget. He hasn't had to negotiate with legislatures or handle an emergency. Before being selected by Trump, Vance had been in exactly one political campaign, and in that campaign, he heavily underperformed against other Republican candidates in his state, despite the big cash infusion from techbros.

#30 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-07-25 03:06 PM

Thiel likes eyeliner.

#31 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-07-25 10:22 PM

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