Monday, September 02, 2024

Oregon Reverses Course and Recriminalizes Drug Possession

Oregon's first-in-the-nation experiment with drug decriminalization came to an end Sunday, and possessing small amounts of hard drugs is once again a crime.

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Doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Someone stands to make money from this I hsve two suspects; the private prison industru and the pharmsceutical companies wfo make Oxycontin and other prescription drugs. Oh but, we must not leave out the lawyers who have seen a dramatic loss of income fdue to decriminalization.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-02 09:55 AM

@#1

You're ignoring the real motivator. Literally all drug laws were passed on the basis of virulent racism. Oregon has a long and storied history with racism. As white nationalism has surged in recent years along with the Trump presidency, expect to see more of this.

#2 | Posted by s1l3ntc0y0t3 at 2024-09-02 10:36 AM

This change will result in more addicts seeking and receiving treatment. That's a good result ...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2024-09-02 12:09 PM

Was there an increase in other crime homelessness or begging?

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2024-09-02 12:11 PM

What a surprise that Danni and the reality of this situation are completely divorced from each other.

#5 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-09-02 03:55 PM

Sounds like it's time for the people of Oregon to decriminalize drugs as a constitutional amendment now so the idiots in the legislature can't F it up again.

#6 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-09-02 04:04 PM

It's funny to think that 100 years ago a person could go to a neighborhood "Rexal" and buy them off the shelf. Cough medicines... teething medicines... hell they were included in military ration kits... along with pep pills... not to mention the copious amounts of booze that flowed...

All of them were taxed to the hilt by the US government.

Then came prohibition... then organized crime... the enormous loss of tax revenue leading to the Great Depression. It was a big mess... didn't solve the problem.

People will do drugs... regardless...

Perhaps we should reconsider how they are distributed and who gets to profit.

#7 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-09-03 08:16 AM

Oh and before you go off on how other countries solved the problem with strict "no-nonsense laws" like China or Arabia... well all these years later China and Arabia are still executing drug dealers... so it hasn't stopped the problem... it's only killing those who get caught.

#8 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-09-03 08:21 AM

Furthermore... the Taliban sought to eradicate the opium fields... the US invasion put them back.

#9 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-09-03 08:23 AM

-Literally all drug laws were passed on the basis of virulent racism. Oregon has a long and storied history with racism.

You really think someone took inventory of the prisons and jails in Oregon, saw a reduction in the number of blacks incarcerated and said, "It's time to arrest more blacks."?

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2024-09-03 08:56 AM

In Colorado, when they legalized weed black incarcerations went up, not down. Licensing is expensive and designed to keep poor people from entering the market.

Anyways, Oregon reversed course due to the massive urban blight it caused. This experimentation in radical libertarianism created visible misery society isn't ready to turn a blind eye to.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-09-03 09:16 AM

"In Colorado, when they legalized weed black incarcerations went up, not down."

seriously? link?

#12 | Posted by eberly at 2024-09-03 09:49 AM

#11

When there's no link, the facts usually stink.

As expected, the total number of marijuana arrests in Colorado has dropped since legalization, although the arrest rate for Black people remained disproportionately high compared to white people.

dcj.colorado.gov

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-03 10:54 AM

Maybe Sitz meant this:

The total number of marijuana arrests decreased by 68% between 2012 and 2019, from 13,225 to 4,290. This was driven by large decreases in possession and sales charges, with a very small (3%) increase in arrests for marijuana production.

Although arrest rates declined for all races and ethnicities, the marijuana arrest rate for Blacks (160 per 100,000) was more than double that of Whites (76 per 100,000) in 2019, which was an increase from the previous report when the ratio was 1.85:1.

The total number of marijuana-related court case filings declined 55% between 2012 and 2019, driven primarily by decreases in misdemeanors and petty offenses. The number of cases with a marijuana felony as the top marijuana charge has varied; in 2020 there were 180 fewer felony cases filed than in 2012.

dcj.colorado.gov

There is less than a ZERO chance that black incarcerations for all weed offenses increased after legalization, period.

It might be possible that weed-involved DUIs did see a rise after legalization and some of those may have led to incarcerations. this report doesn't denote any such statistics however:

The prevalence of marijuana or marijuana-in-combination identified by Colorado State Patrol officers as the impairing substance in a DUI increased from 12% of all DUIs in 2014 to 31% in 2020. The prevalence of citations reported as marijuana-alone increased from 6.3% in 2014 to 8.7% in 2020, while marijuana-in-combination with alcohol or other drugs increased from 5.7% of citations in 2014 to 22.7% in 2020.(same link)

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-03 11:07 AM

#14.

That's not what he said. He could be wrong, but your information doesn't negate the assertion.

His assertion had nothing to do with weed as a reason.

Read it again.

#15 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-09-03 11:33 AM

That's not what he said.

You have reading comprehension problems along with being a complete douchenozzle. Read the big words S-L-O-W-L-Y:

In Colorado, when they legalized weed black incarcerations went up, not down.
My conclusion after perusing the data provided;

There is less than a ZERO chance that black incarcerations for all weed offenses increased after legalization, period.

What is your malfunction?

#16 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-03 11:46 AM

"In Colorado, when they legalized weed black incarcerations went up, not down."

Same in California.

"Legalization, which took effect in 2018, was seen, among other things, as a step to redress historic inequities. The country's decades-long war on drugs had disproportionately targeted Black communities. Decriminalizing marijuana was supposed to offer the twin benefits of reducing patterns of over-policing while offering opportunities for economic advancement in the newly legal business."

"But in Los Angeles, at least, the opposite happened."

"In 2020, with legal marijuana businesses popping up everywhere"and illegal ones still operating with impunity"cannabis-related arrests fell for white and Hispanic people in the city. But arrests of Black people shot up."

xtown.la

Seems that blacks just can't catch a break.

But it can't be racist because the Supremes assured us that racism was over in America.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-03 12:02 PM

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-03 11:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

From legalization until 2019, Organized Crime charges for weed distro went up 400%. It took Covid.

The people that could afford licenses legalized. The people that couldn't, did not. Enforcement concentrates on those that did not.

It was inevitable when the entire structure to legalize weed was sold on how monetized and regulated it's going to be. People certainly got regulated, just not white ones.

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-09-03 01:36 PM

Of course that's completely separate from the the hordes of white fenty zombies filling impromptu campgrounds that are driving calls for reversing hard drug legalization.

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-09-03 01:38 PM

From legalization until 2019, Organized Crime charges for weed distro went up 400%

Not in Colorado. I'm surprised at you, presenting anecdotes without any links to confirmed studies.

In terms of crime, law enforcement agencies continue to combat illicit market activity. Because of the nature of this type of activity being inherently hidden from regulation and oversight, it remains challenging to quantify the size of the illicit market in Colorado; the state can only track and report the indicators of illegal activity, such as arrests and seizures. The number of plants seized on public lands and the number of out-of-state seizures of marijuana sourced from Colorado has fluctuated significantly over time. The number of court filings for marijuana-related felonies or charges related to the Colorado Organized Crime Control Act has also fluctuated -- in 2019, the number of charges was close to or slightly below 2012 numbers.
There was not a 400% increase in illicit distribution in Colorado, nor was there an increase in black incarceration post legalization.

I'm not doubting the gist of what you're saying, but the most comprehensive studies done in Colorado do not support what you imply.

#20 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-03 01:46 PM

"The number of court filings charging a violation of the Colorado Organization Crime Control Act related to marijuana jumped sharply after legalization, from 31 in 2009 to 119 in 2017. But they declined to 34 in 2019"

The most comprehensive studies in Colorado say what I'm saying. I'm only slightly off in that the decline was in 2017 not 2019.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-09-03 02:10 PM

but we're still derailing, those aren't the white fenty zombies this thread is re-criminalizing.

#22 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-09-03 02:11 PM

If we have to tie to together, Republicans are on the witchhunt for the fenty-laced weed. Again.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-09-03 02:15 PM

There's some homeless camps in Houston but the Dems in charge routinely bulldoze them. Not quite like Portland despite nearly 4x more people. If you want to see the zombies in the wild, you volunteer at the food pantry near Gunspoint (greenspoint) on one of the days of the month they hand out methadone at the clinic next door. When you are done with your shift you'll get to slalom around the zombies as they shamble through the street all day. It has a real Walking Dead vibe to it.

#24 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-09-03 02:24 PM

free drugs

#25 | Posted by ichiro at 2024-09-03 03:10 PM

In Florida, people eat each other's faces off.
Just sayin'.

#26 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-09-04 01:47 AM

You really think someone took inventory of the prisons and jails in Oregon, saw a reduction in the number of blacks incarcerated and said, "It's time to arrest more blacks."?

No. They didn't take an inventory.

#27 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-09-04 07:28 AM

Institutional racism is real in Colorado. When you disrupt a black market (get it?) you'll get mostly minorities.

#28 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-09-04 07:40 AM

You can still get poor whites, but they're disproportionately represented.

#29 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-09-04 07:40 AM

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