Thursday, September 12, 2024

Chaos in Aurora

Aurora, Colorado, is normally a quiet, nondescript suburb 30 minutes outside Denver. In recent months, however, the city has been at the center of a national scandal. Beginning last year, a large influx of Venezuelan migrants, some of them members of the notorious Tren de Aragua street gang, reportedly had "taken over" a series of apartment buildings in Aurora"and unleashed terror. Last month, Venezuelan migrants were allegedly implicated in an attempted homicide, an arrest of purported gang members, and shocking security footage that showed heavily armed men forcibly entering one of the apartments. In response to the chaos, police mobilized en masse and vacated one of the complexes after the city, alleging code violations, deemed it uninhabitable

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The Desperation from Republicans Reeks.

btw, were there any cats or ducks involved?

But I guess when your Party's candidate is a notorious criminal, traitor, and all round doofus, then reeking of desperation and pointing to just about anything else is about all ya gots.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-12 12:18 PM

You've convinced me BellRinger.

Let's round up all the Guatemalans and Jamaicans!

#2 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-12 01:31 PM

If one faux rage doesn't succeed try try again.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-12 01:37 PM

Meanwhile, Mexican immigrants breathe a sigh of relief for the brief respite from the Wrath of Trumpers.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-12 01:40 PM

"...the notorious Tren de Aragua street gang, reportedly had "taken over" a series of apartment buildings"

This, from the same folks who believe all the dogs and cats in Ohio have been eaten.

Trust, but verify used to be the saying; now it's Don't believe a word they're saying without three credible pieces of proof.

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-09-12 01:43 PM

crap thread from a crap poster.

#6 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-09-12 01:44 PM

From the articles it looks like the landlord is the main problem.

Off topic, one of the articles had a link to a story about how Kamala Harris was using German Bluetooth earrings to receive talking points from her staff during the debate.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-12 01:51 PM

There's no chaos in Aurora.

But very typical for BullBringer to knee jerk and froth at the mouth whenever Trump feeds him more xenophobia.

What happened to that crisis at the border?

We lose any states yet?

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-12 01:59 PM

From the articles it looks like the landlord is the main problem.

Everything I've read on the subject points to the landlord.

But, why waste an opportunity to get European Americans to hate?

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-12 02:00 PM

There's no chaos in Aurora.

How can that be? It says right in the summary that the city has been at the center of a national scandal.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-12 02:02 PM

It's an apartment complex.

Today's Republican would lose their minds if they heard what Los Angeles was like in the 1980s.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-12 02:11 PM

Aurora has had issues since Trump came to office.

So why didn't Trump fix it?

#12 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-09-12 02:13 PM

"So why didn't Trump fix it?"

Venezuela refused to pay for it?

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-12 02:18 PM

Not to point out how dumb the article is...but Denver hasn't begun sending migrants to Aurora yet. That's a FUTURE plan even according to the article.

But I love how one video of alleged migrants banging on a door constitutes migrant gangs taking over Aurora.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-09-12 02:30 PM

You know, instead of just knee jerk dumping on the reporting y'all could produce counter- evidence that refutes what is being reported.

But that takes a bit of work, so here we are.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-12 02:39 PM

Hey BullBringer, you ever read the story about The Boy Who Cried Wolf?

It's very relevant to your life.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-12 02:46 PM

you lie so much its not worth the "work" jeffy.

#17 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-09-12 02:49 PM

#15

Yeah, a 2 second search on Google. I'm fricking exhausted!

City officials and residents say there is no Venezuelan gang "takeover" in Aurora, Colorado

Surveillance video showing what appears to be a group of Spanish-speaking armed men entering an Aurora, Colorado, apartment complex has stoked fears about people in the U.S. illegally. But city officials and apartment residents have disputed claims that a Venezuelan gang has seized control of the complex.

Some Tren de Aragua members have been arrested near an Aurora apartment building on Nome Street, an Aurora Police Department statement said. That is a different building from where the viral video was taken, but is owned by the same company.

Tren de Aragua formed in the Venezuelan state of Aragua more than a decade ago and operated out of a prison there, Reuters reported. The group established a presence in the U.S. in the past six years, federal officials told the Denverite, a news site. Denver Mayor Mike Johnston said that Tren de Aragua has a presence in metropolitan Denver, but the threat it poses is "very small" compared with other criminal organizations in the region.

Residents at The Edge held a press conference Sept. 3 and disputed claims that their building had been taken over by Venezuelan gang members. They said the apartment conditions, including rat infestations and bedbugs, were caused by neglect by the owners, CBZ Management. One resident displayed live mice he had caught on glue traps as an example of health and safety concerns at the building.

CBZ claimed in an August statement that it has been unable to manage multiple buildings in Aurora because Tren de Aragua has violently taken them over. The company has apartment code violations related to pests and trash disposal that date back to 2020. The Nome Street apartments were shut down in August after city officials found health and safety problems, including a lack of electricity and rodent infestations.

Aurora Mayor Mike Coffman initially told Fox News on Aug. 29 that the men in the video were Venezuelan gang members who pushed out the property's manager and intimidated tenants into paying them rent. Coffman later walked back those claims.

"What I can tell you now is that the gangs are not in control of either complex," Coffman told Newsweek on Sep. 9, referring to The Edge and other Aurora buildings owned by the same company.

By the way, this source is PolitiFact on the hyperlinked title.

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-12 02:50 PM

It's been widely reported that migrating Venezuelans don't have a skeleton
Why no one has offered any counter evidence to that is telling

But that takes work so here we are

- - baby bellringer

#19 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2024-09-12 03:05 PM

You know, instead of just knee jerk dumping on the reporting y'all could produce counter- evidence that refutes what is being reported.
But that takes a bit of work, so here we are.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger

City officials and residents say there is no Venezuelan gang "takeover" in Aurora, Colorado

#18 | Posted by tonyroma

Ask and you shall be ONCE AGAIN fact checked into oblivion, Jeff.

They lied. You bought the lie. They admitted they lied. You STILL believed the lie and pushed it.

You have a lot in common with JD Vance. ...are you allowed to have couches in your house?

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-09-12 03:26 PM

No mention of the surveillance video.

But thank you, Tony Roma for providing something of substance.

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-12 03:54 PM

" But, according to Cindy Romero, who used to live at the Edge apartments, that's exactly what's happened.

"They want to say there's no takeover. I don't know what your definition of takeover' is, but there were no managers, no owners, the housekeepers were being harassed, and these guys changed the locks to the outside of buildings."

"I saw them breaking down doors and taking pictures, then showing the apartments to different families like they were real-estate agents."

"They had their own electricians, locksmiths, and plumbers, and they cooked in my building for like 50 people like six days a week. They partied all night until breakfast then went to bed. They carried guns and terrorized every lease holder until they moved. I was the last [lease holder] in my building."

"That's a takeover."

And

" Crimes and citations have more than doubled at two of the CBZ apartment complexes " Whispering Pines and Aspen Grove " since 2022, while nearly doubling at the third complex, Edge at Lowry, according to the Common Sense Institute, a non-partisan think tank.

The owner of the apartments hired a Colorado law firm to investigate the alleged gang takeover of the Whispering Pines Apartments, CBS News reported. The report concluded Tren de Aragua members committed a long list of crimes including: trespassing, unlawful firearm possession, assaults, threats of murder, extortion, strong-arm tactics, and child prostitution.

TdA now uses the formally vacant units to host "parties" where they "serve drugs and child prostitution," according to the report. The property manager told the law-firm investigators that "minors are a good source of money."

The report further revealed a consultant for the property manager was so severely beaten and stomped by gang members that he had to go to the hospital. And a housekeeper was threatened to give up her keys. The suspects said if she didn't comply, they would kill her or her family.

The officer concluded his report with, "I would highly recommend you guys take two to three friends with you when responding to any calls there."

www.nationalreview.com

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-12 04:36 PM

What does obfuscating for a Criminal/Traitor pay these days?

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-12 04:39 PM

"One day after former President Donald Trump said gangs from Venezuela had taken over Aurora in his debate with Vice President Kamala Harris, Aurora Mayor Mike Coffman says it's time to be clear about exactly what is happening in the city he serves.

"It's grossly exaggerated, in terms of what the current situation is- and very disappointing," said Coffman.

"The impression is that the city was overrun, you know, by criminal gangs. By immigrants, and Venezuelan gangs. And certainly, that is not the case."

On Wednesday the mayor, police, city council, and city manager released a joint statement saying that the criminal gangs from Venezuela have not "taken over" the city."

www.cbsnews.com

Well, that Lie took about 15 seconds to be Debunked... tomorrow's Trump Obfuscation Thread will prolly take even less.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-12 04:45 PM

Flint Water Jeff lies again.

www.politifact.com

#25 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-12 04:50 PM

While there were certainly problems and issues with gang members at the apartments, according to the majority of those commenting, both complexes were poorly managed by CBZ which allowed the situation to get where it is.

But the sensationalized frenzy implying that the gang had taken over is disputed by everyone outside of likely a few residents who rightly felt that way due to the disinterest CBZ showed in letting the property fall into disrepair, neglecting the security of residents affected by the gang activity.

But no one of substance considers the small number of gang members in the apartments - relative to the size of other organized criminal groups in Colorado - to be the type of siege/takeover conservative media is trying to portray the problems as.

And it definitely isn't related to the canard of open borders and uncontrolled migration. As the police tell it, the local members aren't comprised of new immigrants, they're simply an American branch of the Venezuelan-born gang.

#26 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-12 05:02 PM

#26. When it comes to these three apartments it clearly happened and now we are quibbling over the extent to which it happened.

#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-12 05:44 PM

Trump and Vance are trying to win by signaling to the Neo-Nazis in their base and by ginning up racial fears and tensions against immigrants:

Neo-Nazi and far right groups seize on Trump's anti-immigration rhetoric

Extremist groups are latching on to ex-president's xenophobic messages to recruit people and spread ideology

After a video, amplified on major far-right Telegram channels and elsewhere, showing alleged Venezuelan gang members carrying weapons in an Aurora, Colorado, apartment complex went viral, Trump repeatedly used it to denounce immigrant criminals entering the country.

On Saturday, the interim chief of the Aurora police department was forced to put out a Facebook video, clarifying the situation at the building was a much "different picture" from the frenzy and rumors surrounding it.

Yet Trump continued referencing the incident, including in a podcast interview days after Aurora police issued their statement.

Other neo-Nazi activists, not wasting the moment for inflaming tensions, shared a video on Telegram allegedly driving through the streets of Aurora with a megaphone and claiming "to take the city back".

Similarly, on Tuesday, Elon Musk, perhaps Trump's most devoted fanboy, helped spread disinformation about "32 armed Venezuelans" taking over a Chicago building, which the police promptly disproved. The disinformation emanated from the infamous X account, Libs of TikTok, a known purveyor of dangerous, rightwing propaganda and once the subject of a Twitter suspension when the company wasn't under the ownership of Musk.

. . .The Trump campaign inflaming hate crimes and far-right activism is not without precedent. A study out of the University of North Texas on the 2016 Trump campaign, one that held nativist racism at its core, statistically proved that in places where Trump held one of his over 300 rallies there was a "226% increase in hate-motivated incidents".

www.theguardian.com

Trump didn't keep a copy of Hitler's speeches on his bedside table for no reason.

#28 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-12 06:00 PM

#27

No... you are promoting Trump Propaganda that the extent to which it happened is of National Importance.

When the City Manager, Counsel, Police, Business Leaders, and other Citizens of the Community are saying that's crazy.

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-12 06:01 PM

No... you are promoting Trump Propaganda...

Got him 29 responses towards his 2024 Eberly Troll of the Year award.

#30 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-12 06:18 PM

I can smell Jeff's desperation over the interwebs.

Panic is setting in.

#31 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-09-12 06:26 PM

All BullBringer posts anymore is QANonsense hysteria.

The guy can't help but cry Wolf.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-09-12 07:08 PM

The stinkerbell melt down continues...

#33 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-09-12 08:51 PM

Ballwasher is too ------- stupid to know a fake story from a real one. No wonder Beverly washes his balls

#34 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-09-12 11:24 PM

"Social media posts falsely claiming the Tren de Aragua gang took over an apartment building went viral"

------- IDIOT.

#35 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-09-13 12:42 AM

John Roger Stephens couldn't get out of Springfield fast enough

#36 | Posted by homerj at 2024-09-14 05:19 PM

But city officials and apartment residents have disputed claims that a Venezuelan gang has seized control of the complex.
- from Tony's article

Sorry, video of thugs running around the complex with weapons of war doesn't jive with this.

Let me guess the city still has operational control.

Lol

Should I believe some mouthpiece for a government that continually lies or a video?

Hmmmmmm.

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