Friday, September 20, 2024

Pennsylvania Governor Carded, Couldn't Buy Booze

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro (D), 51 years old, may have been the first consumer denied an alcoholic beverage under a new state law expanding access to canned cocktails. Previously, Pennsylvania convenience stores and grocery stores could not sell ready-to-drink beverages under a Prohibition-era law that mandated hard liquor be sold through state-run stores. Local stores could only sell beer and wine.

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I guess he could take it as a compliment?

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-19 05:55 PM

Reminds me of an incident that occurred about three decades ago.

I was attending a concert at the famed Toad's Place in New Haven, CT ( www.toadsplace.com ) as I frequently did back then.

I walked in and the bouncer (likely in his early 20's, but built like a brick sh*thouse) asked my for my ID.

I said, you're kidding (at the time, I was 40+ years old). He said, "no, ID please."

So I took out my driver license and showed it to him.

His comment was, "oh."

I said, "yeah."

We both smiled about it.



#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-19 07:18 PM

#2 | Posted by LampLighter

I performed there a few times...4 decades ago...

#3 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-09-20 02:07 PM

This don't make no sense...there's lots of states that will not sell booze without proper ID, regardless of your 'age appearance'. Georgia comes immediately to mind...do not understand what the issue is here...

#4 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-09-20 02:14 PM

I am in my 70's and cannot buy a lottery ticket in some stores without letting them scan my id. Personally, it feels like the store will just sell the info.

#5 | Posted by Hughmass at 2024-09-20 02:20 PM

This don't make no sense...there's lots of states that will not sell booze without proper ID, regardless of your 'age appearance'. Georgia comes immediately to mind...do not understand what the issue is here...
#4 | Posted by Angrydad

Maybe he's used to not being carded because he's the governor? Or because he frequents a particular state liquor store and the cashier here is following procedure down to the letter because that's what's required for convenience stores?

Or, my favorite, Josh Shapiro is secretly a devout Muslim and was trying to avoid temptation because alcohol is haram.

Those are the only possibilities. Choose wisely!

#6 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-20 02:21 PM

I always felt insulted when they stopped carding me.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-09-20 09:03 PM

It's hilarious to me that someone who no is obviously well over the legal age to purchase alcohol must show ID but requiring an ID to vote is the most horrific thing ever in spite of it having overwhelming support as a voting requirement.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-20 09:28 PM

" I always felt insulted when they stopped carding me.

#7 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2024-09-20 09:03 PM | FLAG:

It sucks when I'm at a kiosk purchasing alcohol and an employee walks over types in their employee info and the screen asks "over 50" and they turn around, look at me and immediately reply affirmative.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-20 09:31 PM

#8 Bellringer Let me explain to you 1. No one can vote without a valid ID. 2. The problem is the GOP in certain states are continuously changing what is considered a valid ID. 3. They maybe eliminating showing Student picture ID (college), Military ID, etc.

#10 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-09-20 11:38 PM

It's hilarious to me that someone who no is obviously well over the legal age to purchase alcohol must show ID but requiring an ID to vote is the most horrific thing ever in spite of it having overwhelming support as a voting requirement.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger

A. ID to buy booze is to prevent underage drinking and keep youngsters safe.
B. ID to vote was a solution looking for a problem that didn't exist. Voter fraud/impersonation is exceedingly rare.

#11 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-09-21 12:21 AM

It's hilarious to me that someone who no is obviously well over the legal age to purchase alcohol must show ID but requiring an ID to vote is the most horrific thing ever in spite of it having overwhelming support as a voting requirement.
#8 | Posted by BellRinger

Here you go BellRinger:
"Last year, Alabama began enforcing a controversial voter ID law that disenfranchised hundreds of otherwise eligible voters who lacked the proper documents. This month, the state plans to close 31 driver's license offices - most of them in rural, impoverished, majority-black counties - making it even harder for residents to get the most common form of ID used to vote." archive.thinkprogress.org

That was always the plan. Institute voter ID, knowing that it is poor people who tend to vote Dem that will lack that ID. Then make it difficult for those poor people to obtain ID without taking day(s) off from work (which most of them cannot afford to do, even assuming their employer let them do so).

It you're genuinely curious as to the goal and impact of voter ID laws, and not just repeating MAGAt talking points: "A Dead-Simple Algorithm Reveals the True Toll of Voter ID Laws Critics of voter ID laws have had a difficult time proving their menace in court. A new algorithm could change that." www.wired.com

#12 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-21 08:30 AM

Lamplighter: "I was attending a concert at the famed Toad's Place in New Haven, CT."

I used to go there when it was "Hungry Charlie's". Drinking tea and discussing philosophy with the Yalies of a certain type. Circa 1969.

#13 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2024-09-21 11:15 AM

Most western countries require ID to vote.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-22 10:35 AM

"Most western countries require ID to vote." - #14 | Posted by BellRinger

And in America you're required to present ID in order to register to vote.

You're welcome.

#15 | Posted by Hans at 2024-09-22 10:44 AM

Most western countries require ID to vote.
#14 | Posted by BellRinger

Most western countries also provide each and every citizen with an ID card from the moment they are born. Many of those nations providing them free of charge.

Guess which nation doesn't do so? I'll give you the hint, it's the one where you want to disenfranchise ~7% (1.6 million voters) of the population to stop about 1,500 voting fraud cases (www.heritage.org) over the last 30 years. So yeah, let's disenfranchise 1,598,500 voters to stop that 1,500 (who were caught under existing laws) because I'm sure tens of millions of voting fraud cases are going undetected according to MAGAt logic. How do they know? The GOP/Trump told them.

#16 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-22 11:21 AM

Ballwasher the clown and his tired old crap.
Why is it that the cast majority of voter fraud is committed by Republicants?

#17 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-09-22 11:44 AM

" And in America you're required to present ID in order to register to vote.

You're welcome.

#15 | POSTED BY HANS AT 2024-09-22 10:44 AM | FLAG: |"

In some states a person is given voter registration when getting a driver's license and in those states illegal aliens are allowed to get drivers licenses.

You're welcome.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-22 02:05 PM

When you apply for a DL you must document your status. Not a citizen, not allowed to register to vote.

BTW there is no such thing as an illegal alien

You're not welcome, cause you're a lying POS.

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-09-22 02:17 PM

Republicans, the party that thinks having a gun ownership registry is fascist communism and the end of America wants to make every citizen get put on a government list.

#20 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-09-22 02:21 PM

In some states a person is given voter registration when getting a driver's license

Pennsylvania is an example. They estimate that 0.0006% of votes cast from 2000-2017 were by non-citizens.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-22 02:21 PM

In reference: "#18 | Posted by BellRinger

We're not as stupid and gullible as you Trumpanzees.

Next time you think you're being smart, close your laptop and head directly to the toilet.

You're MOST welcome.

#22 | Posted by Hans at 2024-09-22 02:37 PM

"In some states a person is given voter registration when getting a driver's license"

No states allow non citizens to vote in federal elections. They are allowed to vote in local elections. Federal election ballots are not issued to non citizens.

The Heritage Foundation's analysis of legal actions regarding election conduct found only 24 instances of noncitizens voting between 2003 and 2023. A study conducted by the Brennan Center for Justice analyzing 23.5 million votes across 42 jurisdictions in the 2016 general election concluded that there were approximately 30 instances of noncitizens casting votes. Illegal voting, including by noncitizens, is routinely investigated and prosecuted by the appropriate authorities, and there is no evidence that noncitizen voting has ever been significant enough to impact an election's outcome.
Non citizens voting in federal elections is not a problem in America. Only in your head.

See more at:

bipartisanpolicy.org

Thank you for the opportunity to teach you about election laws in America.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-22 02:53 PM

" BTW there is no such thing as an illegal alien"

It's a legal term in our legal system.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-22 03:25 PM

" 22 | POSTED BY HANS AT 2024-09-22 02:37 PM | FLAG: "

You should have just typed, "Nuh uh!" And saved yourself some keystrokes.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-22 03:26 PM

#25

Still sucking after all these years.

All the last few posts schooled you.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-22 03:30 PM

You should have just typed, "Nuh uh!" And saved yourself some keystrokes.

#25 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

He probably didn't want to be mistaken for you or 1ironicnut.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-22 03:32 PM

Here are the states that allow illegal aliens to get drivers licenses:

CA, CO, CT, DE, HI, IL, MD, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OR, UT, VA, VT, WA

" To register to vote in California you should provide:

Your California Driver's License or State non-driver ID Number
Last Four Digits of your Social Security Number"

The first state I checked was California. Based upon this it certainly appears that illegal aliens can register to vote in California.

www.usvotefoundation.org

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-22 03:41 PM

I see the lefties haven't moved the goalposts but have changed the topic altogether; it's very telling that every lefty posting is trying to deflect away from the topic of this thread.

It's hilarious that the guy who posted that on his thread is now 6 posts into derailing this one.

#29 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-22 03:45 PM

The first state I checked was California. Based upon this it certainly appears that illegal aliens can register to vote in California.
www.usvotefoundation.org

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2

Please explain how an illegal alien will have a SSN.

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-09-22 03:50 PM

In reference: #25 | Posted by BellRinger

There you go again: We're not as stupid and gullible as you Trumpanzees.

Next time you think you're being smart, close your laptop and head directly to the toilet.

Again, you're MOST welcome.

#31 | Posted by Hans at 2024-09-22 03:51 PM

Re 28.

So you cannot or you refuse to read.

Non citizens cannot vote in federal elections in California or any other state. It's a different ballot.

Deterrence is an important factor in ensuring compliance with voting laws. The consequences for breaking federal election law can have a profound effect on noncitizens. They could face prison time and deportation for illegal voting as well as denial of future immigration status, including naturalization. The risk of identification and punishment generally deters the behavior.

A study conducted by the Brennan Center for Justice analyzing 23.5 million votes across 42 jurisdictions in the 2016 general election concluded that there were approximately 30 instances of noncitizens casting votes.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-22 04:10 PM

#28 | Posted by BellRinger

Would you rather have states ignore the "millions" of undocumented adult drivers, never finding out who they are, where they live, or if they're even proficient enough to drive, forcing them to operate illegally and without insurance - driving up rates for everyone else?

Every state should offer licenses for all their residents who drive regardless of their citizenship status. It confers no special rights other than protecting everyone else on the road. Why would anyone have a problem with that?

#33 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-22 04:11 PM

Non citizens cannot vote in federal elections in California or any other state.

When you life and safety depends upon staying in the shadows, why would anyone not here legally risk everything just to cast 1 vote in any particular election? If you have enough willpower and fortitude to traverse thousands of miles on foot, voting in an American election as a non-citizen is the LAST thing on your mind, since avoiding crossing the law is the FIRST.

#34 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-22 04:16 PM

When your life....

#35 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-22 04:16 PM

I don't think a blue sanctuary state would put any effort into an illegal alien registering to vote especially since legal status isn't verified when registering or voting.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-22 08:50 PM

" close your laptop and head directly to the toilet.

Again, you're MOST welcome.

#31 | POSTED BY HANS AT 2024-09-22 03:51 PM | FLAG: "

I'm using my iPad.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-22 08:51 PM

" close your laptop and head directly to the toilet.
Again, you're MOST welcome.
#31 | POSTED BY HANS AT 2024-09-22 03:51 PM | FLAG: "

I'm using my iPad.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger

TMI, BellRinger...

TMI ...

But revealing.

Very, very revealing.

#38 | Posted by Hans at 2024-09-22 09:11 PM

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