Loomer Attacks Vivek and Elon

... A handful of conservative critics of Elon Musk are alleging censorship and claiming they were stripped of their verification badges on X after challenging his views on H-1B visas for highly skilled foreign workers. ...

You gotta wonder who gives better 'shroom head, Loomer or Musk?

... An online spat between factions of Donald Trump's supporters over immigration and the tech industry has thrown internal divisions in his political movement into public display, previewing the fissures and contradictory views his coalition could bring to the White House.

The rift laid bare the tensions between the newest flank of Trump's movement -- wealthy members of the tech world including billionaire Elon Musk and fellow entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy and their call for more highly skilled workers in their industry -- and people in Trump's Make America Great Again base who championed his hardline immigration policies. ...

... A handful of conservative critics of Elon Musk are alleging censorship and claiming they were stripped of their verification badges on X after challenging his views on H-1B visas for highly skilled foreign workers. ...

Mr. Free speech absolutist at it again. Musk is a pathetic man child.

#14 That's funny. Free speech? His site, his rules, right?

They're capricious "rules" that only apply to people he doesn't like saying things he doesn't like. He's not for free speech at all.

Funny flag this, too you worthless WOB.

@#16 ... They're capricious "rules" that only apply to people he doesn't like saying things he doesn't like. He's not for free speech at all. ...

Like this?

OpEd: Elon Musk Is Absolutely an Enemy of Free Speech (July 2023)
www.freepress.net

... In Elon Musk's mind he's absolutely a free-speech absolutist. He'll absolutely defend your right to speak out, as long as you don't criticize him. If you do ... well ... then you're out of luck. ...

These attempts to silence his critics are not surprising to anyone who's followed Musk's erratic behavior. The magnate positions himself as a champion of free and open debate while taking extraordinary efforts to silence any honest criticism and independent research that might negatively impact Musk and his many businesses.

Musk has targeted CCDH for exposing how hate and disinformation have mushroomed on Twitter since he took over in late October. That he still considers himself a free-speech absolutist is stunning given his past efforts to silence anyone who questions his motives or criticizes his businesses.

Musk's taste for shutting down dissenting voices predates CCDH and even his takeover of Twitter. Here's the history: ...

"They're capricious "rules" that only apply to people he doesn't like saying things he doesn't like. He's not for free speech at all."

A FF for real. Pot, kettle.

#18 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-12-27 04:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm not a site owner, nor do I moderate anyone, so can you make an actual point?

I doubt it.

Go follow danni and twinpac around and flag people, gracie. it's all you're capable of.

14 That's funny. Free speech? His site, his rules, right?

#15 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Wrong.

Then it's not "free" speech. It is Elon Speech.

And how is this any different from before he bought it?

It was just someone else moderating the site. Back then it was a workplace full of idealists who also believed they were making the public conversation healthier.

But back then you MAGAts called site moderation "censorship".

So now he is moderating the content to suit his own personal agenda. Whereas before there were at least fairly consistent rules.

Now it is just the whim of the moderator and how he feels today.

#21 Who is forcing you or anyone to have an account on X? His site, his rules, subject to change when he feels like changing them. I have been very vocal about the left wingnut hypocrites who continue to recopy Tweets on the Retort while bitching about Musk and his company, X. Weird.

Who is forcing you or anyone to have an account on X?

No one. The point is that Elon Musk runs around the MSM doing interviews claiming to be an a free speech absolutist, and as soon as Loomer insults him he bans her. I was just pointing out that he's a liar.

Deal with it.

Also, I do not have an account on X ...

@#23 ... The point is that Elon Musk runs around the MSM doing interviews claiming to be an a free speech absolutist, and as soon as Loomer insults him he bans her. I was just pointing out that he's a liar. ...

Worth repeating.

The point is that Elon Musk runs around the MSM doing interviews claiming to be an a free speech absolutist, and as soon as Loomer insults him he bans her. I was just pointing out that he's a liar.

@#2 ... Go follow danni and twinpac around and flag people, gracie. it's all you're capable of. ...

It is easier to flag a comment as funny than it is to provide a rational reply to that comment.

@#7 ... Republicans hire immigrants to take over federal government. ...

I had not thought about it in that light.

Take over the government seems to be appropriate.

What other Pres-elect has had to state publicly that he was the real Pres-elect?

That, in and of itself, is damning for Pres-elect Trump to say.

Trump addresses Elon Musk's growing political influence: 'He's not going to be president' (December 22, 2024)
www.nbcnews.com

... After Musk helped tank a bipartisan bill to fund the government, Trump told conservative activists that he hadn't "ceded the presidency" to the tech billionaire. ...

@#27

Speaking of hiring immigrants ...

While i have never been a fan of undocumented immigrants in the US, I also try to ask what would be the effects upon the economy if all the undocumented immigrants were concentrated in camps and deported/

I'm thinking about the agriculture industry, the construction industry, the hospitality service industry, etc.

For example...

Children Risk Their Lives Building America's Roofs (December 2023)
www.nytimes.com

... This is Antoni Padilla, 15. He found work as a roofer in South Carolina after leaving Honduras.

Federal law bars anyone under 18 from roofing because it's so dangerous. But across the U.S., migrant children do this work anyway.

They call themselves "ruferitos" on social media. In videos like these, they talk about being underage and pose on rooftops and ladders, often without the required safety gear.

One slip can be fatal.

The New York Times spoke with more than 100 child roofers in nearly two dozen states, including some who began at elementary-school age. They wake before dawn to be driven to distant job sites, sometimes crossing state lines. They carry heavy bundles of shingles that leave their arms shaking. They work through heat waves on black-tar rooftops that scorch their hands.

The rise of child roofers comes as young people are crossing the southern border alone in record numbers. Nearly 400,000 children have come to the United States since 2021 without their parents, and a majority have ended up working, The New York Times has reported in a series of articles this year. ...

What might happen to the costs of the construction industry if those child workers are replaced with American workers who demand safety in their jobs?

The only reason the racist stupids of true MAGA ever liked Musk in the first place was because he backed Trump and said things that were equally insane or fascistic. Now many of them are learning that he's only in it for the money.

Look Gracie is a backward idjit who doesn't understand that fElon bought Twitter in the "name of free speech" and to stamp out "censorship". Also isn't bright enough to understand that Twitter was stamping out provable misinformation and propaganda campaigns by the likes of the governments of Russia, China, South Korea and Iran. Did they do it in cooperation with the US government? Yes. That's a good thing. What does fElon do? He applauds false information, nazis and Russia while silencing actual people who criticize him and others he favors.

@#26

My point exactly ...

Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-27 06:08 PM | Reply | Flagged funny by gracieamazed

LOL Never had a Twitter account. No need to 'follow' people and their opinions. Most of which copied and pasted on the Retort did not age well. He applauds false information, that's freaking rich! The irony of your post is lost on you. Bless your heart. TooTles.

re: #30

I think you meant "North" Korea. The South snuffed out their president's attempted coup within 2 hours of his martial law declaration

@#33 ... I think you meant "North" Korea. The South snuffed out their president's attempted coup within 2 hours of his martial law declaration ...

Agreed.

e.g.,

South Korean ex-defense chief indicted for role in martial law
www3.nhk.or.jp

"Most of which copied and pasted on the Retort did not age well."

I rarely link to Twitter. But even with Elon putting his fat thumb in the scale it U.S. still a popular social media with a certain segment of society that don't care if the information he spreads is true or not and there are still some posts from politicians that are newsworthy and worth repeating and discussing. The site still has 600 million active users worldwide.

"He applauds false information, that's freaking rich!"

Yup and he only gets away with it because he is freaking rich!

Not only does he applaud misinformation and Russian propaganda he retweets err Xes it out to his "2 million" followers.

...

As Elon Musk increasingly weighed in on politics in the last several years, he used his massive following on his social media app X to repeatedly amplify content from a company that appears to be at the center of an alleged Russian covert operation to manipulate U.S. public opinion ahead of the 2024 election.

Musk, one of the world's richest people, boosted content from creators and accounts tied to Tenet Media at least 60 times, resharing the operation's posts and engaging in back-and-forth replies with Tenet's paid pundits on X.

www.nbcnews.com

Tenet Media was the Russian disinformation machine that was just recently accused of paying $10s of millions of dollars to U.S. influencers to create viral misinformation videos.

What irony? I left twitter when Elon Musk bought it and turned it into a cesspool.

Remember when JPW posted a parody account post from Twitter to this place? Yeah, he doesn't either.

Remember when you posted something worth reading?

No one else does either.

@#37 ... Remember when JPW posted a parody account post from Twitter to this place? ...

So your current alias admits it was a parody account that was posted.

What else yer got?

Remember when you posted something worth reading?

No one else does either.

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-27 08:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Remember when your dad beat your mom's ass for handling a zucchini? I'm sure you forgot..

@#40

So... confirming the content of the message your current alias is replying to?

Curious ...

But, interesting.

What to know about Sriram Krishnan, whose AI appointment sparked MAGA outrage
www.axios.com

... Sriram Krishnan has become a MAGA lightning rod since President-elect Trump named him as a senior adviser on artificial intelligence, due to both anti-Indian racism and Krishnan's pro-immigration views.

The big picture: Krishnan is an unlikely candidate for controversy, known throughout Silicon Valley for his affability and to the broader world as co-host of a podcast with his wife, tech entrepreneur Aarthi Ramamurthy.

Zoom in: Krishnan was born and educated in India, moving to the U.S. on an L-1 visa (intra-company transfer) in 2007 to work at Microsoft.

- - - He remained in Seattle for just over six years, mostly focused on Azure, before moving to Silicon Valley and serving in senior product roles at Snap, Facebook, Yahoo and Twitter. He became a U.S. citizen in 2016.

- - - During the pandemic, Krishnan and Ramamurthy launched a popular show on the Clubhouse audio app, which included interviews with such tech luminaries as Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.

Moving on: Krishnan in late 2020 became a general partner with venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, a prominent backer of Clubhouse.

- - - He also would become the firm's emissary to Twitter after Elon Musk's takeover, which Andreessen Horowitz helped finance, spending time in the "war room" with Musk pals like David Sacks (who will serve as Trump's AI and crypto czar).

- - - Last year Krishnan moved to London to lead Andreessen Horowitz's first European office and to focus on early-stage crypto investments. He announced in November that he'd leave the firm at year-end, although that came before Trump's job offers to either him or Sacks.

The intrigue: Krishnan has advocated for raising country caps on green cards, but hasn't specifically commented on H-1B visas (despite incorrect social media claims to the contrary). ...