Friday, January 03, 2025

Why does Trump want to dismantle the Department of Education?

A key question heading into President-elect Donald Trump's next term is the fate of the federal Department of Education - a Cabinet-level agency that he and other conservatives have said they want to abolish.

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Her most important qualification is being a longtime Trump loyalist -- and she'll carry out his vision to gut the Department of Education.

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-- The Intercept (@theintercept.com) December 30, 2024 at 3:40 PM

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Republicans can't handle people with a brain cell.

#1 | Posted by bat4255 at 2025-01-03 02:30 PM

It's been proven time and again how educated people tend to vote for democrats.

This is the main reason Republicans want to destroy public education.

That, and Trump gets another tax cut when he does.

Democrats banked on Americans being smarter than they are.

FDR gifted America a booming middle class.

Republicans since Reagan have done nothing but spread poverty and corruption.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-03 02:35 PM

So, we had no thinkers until 1980?

#3 | Posted by phinphan at 2025-01-03 03:08 PM

Putin's bitch is still pissed about having his fraudulent university shuttered.

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-03 03:11 PM

Look at how kids performed prior to its creation vs how they perform now.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-03 03:26 PM

Why does Trump want to dismantle the Department of Education?

Donald Trump declares 'I love the poorly educated' as he storms to victory in Nevada caucus
www.independent.co.uk 24 February 2016

#6 | Posted by censored at 2025-01-03 05:15 PM

So, we had no thinkers until 1980?

That sort of like saying why do we need a car for transportation. We got along well with the horse and buggy. Or, we didn't need computers, we had people using an abacus to do math.

Things change. People's needs change and government needs to keep up with the needs of the people.

#7 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-01-04 06:06 AM

The DOE was and remains a solution in search of a problem.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-04 10:28 AM

Because the dept is a failure as since the fed govt got it grubby hands into the school systems since it's beginning under Carter the students of our nation's overall scores have fallen. Also, the complicit libbie teachers' unions have aided in our public schools systems failure.

Just Google how our students compare to those of the other countries back in the mid 70s as compared to today and you'll see how we've fallen. AND no, more money is not the answer as we pay plenty and many nations that are doing better than ours do not spend as much as the USA does.

www.census.gov

#9 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-01-04 11:00 AM

The Department of Education was first formed under Johnson's term in office and then demoted to Office of Education. Carter reestablished it in 1979. It's a necessary department to ensure equal access amongst other things.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-04 11:10 AM

#9 | Posted by MSgt

Donald wants to end the Department of Education because:

1) It feeds his ego to destroy things.

2) MAGA is not a culture of knowledge or learning. I grew up with it, I know. Your MAGA academic scores have fallen, dragging everyone else down. because MAGA never will give a sh--.

MAGA is about getting handouts from society they never had any intention of earning.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-04 11:15 AM

When I speak with MAGA, they often know an awful lot about what they encounter in their day-to-day lives, such as livestock and ranching.

Get them away from that and they are very often profoundly ignorant. The larger universe began only the moment they were born, and most things that exist outside the state lines are abstractions. Which is funny, because most MAGA would have difficulty explaining the concept "abstraction".

If the Department of Education is eliminated, MAGA high school students will go back to sleeping in class and spending their spare time waiting for school to get out so they can plan their next party and get drunk.

Read it and weep, it's only long-standing reality. It's boring, silly, and claustrophobic but it's the lives they live and want to live. Fascism thrives on making these people feel somehow special.

They will get fooled: again, and again and again.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-04 11:23 AM

The DOE was and remains a solution in search of a problem.

#8 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The DOE deals with energy.

And energy is definitely a problem that needs to be dealt with in America.

ED is the acronym used for the dept of education.

And education (as you just proved) is definitely a problem that needs to be dealt with in America.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-04 12:19 PM

The DOE deals with energy.

That's the one Rick Perry wanted to get rid of, so Dubya put him in charge of it?

#14 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-04 12:24 PM

'Cuz the GOP loves them some ignorant arse S.O.B's...mmm hmm!

#15 | Posted by earthmuse at 2025-01-04 09:55 PM

Trump overwhelmingly leads rivals in support from less educated Americans (2016)
www.pbs.org

... Trump overwhelmingly leads his rivals for support among the less educated, and draws more modest backing from college graduates and those with postgraduate study, according to exit polls conducted for the Associated Press and television networks by Edison Research. ...

Among America's "Low-Information Voters" (August 2024)
www.newyorker.com

... Monica Sheppard lives in Rome, Georgia, where she runs a bee-themed arts-and-crafts shop. Rome is a right-leaning town in the rural, poor, and intensely conservative northwest corner of the state. Education rates are low, and mainstream news does not easily take root. Marjorie Taylor Greene, who became the district's congresswoman in 2021, was elected in part because, for many voters, identifying with the QAnon conspiracy theory, as she'd recently done, was less troubling than identifying with the Times. ...

Going back to the topic of this thread ...

Why educate people only to have them vote against you because of that education?


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-04 10:07 PM

Probably because the US led the world in education before it was created and since it's creation the US has fallen to 13th overall in education while ranking 38th in math and 24th in science.

#17 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-01-05 01:48 AM

@#17

Got links?

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-05 01:56 AM

@#17

What I see ...

US Has Dropped from 1st to 24th Worldwide in Education Since 1979?
www.snopes.com

... Then-President Jimmy Carter founded the Department of Education in 1979.

Rating: Unfounded

On Nov. 11, 2024, X owner Elon Musk posted an image (archived) of former U.S. President Jimmy Carter that was captioned: "In 1979 I created the Department of Education. Since then America went from 1st to 24th in education."

Musk wrote in his post, which had amassed more than 64 million views and 613,000 likes as of this writing: "Not exactly great value for money!"


In short, there is no single definitive scale that determines the ranking of nations' education quality worldwide, though several organizations have published their own assessments. Snopes was unable to track down an assessment that found the U.S. specifically ranked 24th worldwide. Musk's post also did not specify several key items, such as which year the U.S. was in 24th place or which assessments the claim referred to. Therefore, we have rated this claim as unfounded.

Snopes contacted Musk and the Department of Education seeking evidence regarding the claim and will update this story if we receive a response.

As of This Writing, Does the US Rank 24th Worldwide?

Various organizations have reached different conclusions, but Snopes did not track down any significant survey, report or analysis that found the U.S. ranked 24th worldwide in education in 2024.

For example, U.S. News ranked the U.S. as first in its widely-cited 2024 Best Countries report, which reportedly surveyed the views of "close to 17,000 global citizens." ...


So, it seems, just another MAGA alternative universe lie.

#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-05 02:01 AM

Because it is a failure!

#20 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-01-05 11:47 AM

People voting for trump proves that the educational system in this country sucks.

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-05 11:51 AM

"The DOE was and remains a solution in search of a problem"
ng down the Dept

It is a class war and education provides opportunities to change class; some of the fools don't like that idea. Be happy in the caste you were born into and accept our assigned station in life as per J.D. Vance. Barrack Obama and Bill Clinton taught right wing Amerits the possibility of a college education for millionscans about the dangers of letting people use rducation to determine the limits of their futures themselves but one pf those three favors sjutting down the Dept. of Education and with it the Student Loan Program which would limit the possibility of a college education for millions who didn't have rhe foresight to be born into and families which would be the effect and uhspoken intention begind the ides of shutting down the Dept. of Education; put those poor ids back in their place just like it was when I was young and had to drop out of college because student loans weren't guaranteed by rhe government and thus were non-exiatent except for my bank's largest depostors children who didn't need loans anyway and that was told to me directly by a vice president of the bank. So go celebrate te end of the Dept. of Education MAGAmorons, emphasis on MORONS! BTW, I finally got my degree at are 55 after raising 3 kids by myself.

#22 | Posted by danni at 2025-01-05 10:40 PM

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