US Insists It Authored Ukraine Peace Plan

Sunday, November 23, 2025

US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has insisted that a proposed plan to end the Ukraine war, which has been widely viewed as favourable to Russia, was "authored by the US". It comes after a group of senators said they had been told by Rubio that the draft - which one said he described as a Russian "wish list" - did not reflect Washington's position.

Posted by REDIAL at 08:33 AM | 35 COMMENTS | permalink

So the US was aware that the world thought the document was US endorsed, yet waited until now to clarify that it wasn't? How could the US have communicated to Ukraine that they had to accept the proposal or lose US support without clarifying that the Russian proposal wasn't actually their proposal?

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-- Adam Schwarz (@adamjschwarz.bsky.social) Nov 22, 2025 at 6:48 PM

Comments

I love the smell of TACO in the morning...

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-23 12:45 AM

Trump allowed Russia to create this plan. I mean, just look at the thing. They were too supine, stupid, and lazy to do anything else.

God bless Ukraine. I think that they will continue to resist. There was a time that America would.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-23 08:07 AM

Russia knows that's in the Epstein Files, and I'm pretty sure that they have a copy.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-23 08:10 AM

"Trump says Ukraine ungrateful as officials meet to convince Kyiv to accept peace proposals

US President Donald Trump says Ukraine's leaders have shown "zero gratitude" over US efforts to end the war"

www.bbc.com

What... no gratitude for the US pushing a Russian-made Plan? Inconvievable!

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-23 10:41 AM

Is in folder marked "from Vlad, with love"

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-11-23 11:03 AM

Real simple solution to this war: the US "stores" a couple dozen cruise missiles and US fighter jets on Ukrainian soil and Ukraine promises to allow their removal in 10 years, unless they must use them first for national defense. The Russian army can then govern themselves accordingly ...

#6 | Posted by catdog at 2025-11-23 11:05 AM

www.youtube.com
Whenever I see that word, this pops into my mind.

#7 | Posted by mattm at 2025-11-23 11:07 AM

Tough call for Zelensky. Surrender and get nothing or be eventually wiped out.

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-23 11:58 AM

We could always to what the last President did..... absolutely nothing....

#9 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-23 12:06 PM

Most untruthful, incompetent, and dangerous administration in American history.

#10 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-11-23 12:06 PM

We could always to what the last President did..... absolutely nothing....
#9 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Billions of dollars in military aid is absolutely nothing to you.

That's because you aren't smart enough to have this conversation.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-23 12:15 PM

We could always to what the last President did..... absolutely nothing....

#9 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

You are just chock full of lies aren't?

You are one of the biggest lying liars here.

Keep lying liar. It suits you and I would expect nothing less from you. It's what you do.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-23 12:16 PM

We could always to what the last President did..... absolutely nothing....

#9 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

You are either a liar or extremely stupid.

Looks like both.

Time for a name change soon. Your Schtick is wearing thin.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-23 12:18 PM

We could always to what the last President did..... absolutely nothing....
#9 | Posted by lfthndthrds

"Dems do both too much and too little to help Ukraine!"
-MAGATs explaining the quantum physics of Dems fighting Russian hegemony (as they drop to their knees to give Putin another session of oral loving)

#14 | Posted by censored at 2025-11-23 12:39 PM

... US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has insisted that a proposed plan to end the Ukraine war, which has been widely viewed as favourable to Russia, was "authored by the US". ...

I remain to be convinced that such an insistence of being the author of this Ukraine surrender plan is A Good Thing for the US.

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-23 12:50 PM

We could always to what the last President did..... absolutely nothing....

#9 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Which would be much less harmful than this assinine abortion of a peace deal.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-23 12:55 PM

"US senators say Rubio told them Trump's Ukraine peace plan is Russia's wish list'
By Associated Press
2 hr ago

"This administration was not responsible for this release in its current form," said Republican Mike Rounds from South Dakota, speaking at a security conference in Canada. "They want to utilize it as a starting point."

Rounds said "it looked more like it was written in Russian to begin with."

The senators said they spoke to Rubio after he reached out to some of them while on his way to Geneva for talks on the plan. Independent Maine Sen. Angus King said Rubio told them the plan "was not the administration's plan" but a "wish list of the Russians."

www.cnn.com

Imagine how much trouble we would be in if this Admin were anywhere near competent in their evil intents.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-23 12:59 PM

Rubio Admits Difficulties in Translating US Peace Plan from the Original Russian

substack.com

#18 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-23 01:02 PM

Billions of dollars in military aid is absolutely nothing to you.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-23 12:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

All that did was keep the war going and help the Bidens keep the money laundering machine churning.

#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-23 01:37 PM

Time for a name change soon. Your Schtick is wearing thin.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-23 12:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Awe, look at him trying to be cute. My account is older than yours, raetard.

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-23 01:39 PM

@#19 ... All that did was keep the war going ...

It helped Ukraine protect its current and future sovereignty, something that Pres trump seems to care little about.

#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-23 02:20 PM

Merz warns Ukraine's sovereignty is non-negotiable
www.dw.com

... The German chancellor told DW that Europe cannot support elements of a contentious US plan on Ukraine. He also warned that a Thursday deadline set by Donald Trump is not realistic.

German Chancellor Friedrich Merz on Sunday told DW that Europe was facing a "deep threat" to its security architecture as negotiations continue in Geneva over a controversial US plan.

Merz said Ukraine's sovereignty must not be sacrificed as part of any arrangement, which Washington wants agreed by Thursday. ...

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-23 02:21 PM

#19 Apparently, Left Hind Turds didn't want to keep the war in Ukraine going.

What were the Ukrainians supposed to do, Left Hind Turds: Surrender to Putin???

Are you up for the replacement for Lil Rubio when he's finished going through the orange ringer?

#23 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-23 02:26 PM

#12 'Tis so considerate of Left Hind Turds to flag your post "Funny."

It helps the algorithm boost the visibility of said post, and even helps to move it to the Recently Flagged section where, again, its visibility is increased.

#24 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-23 02:39 PM

All that did was [help Ukraine kill 200,000 Russkies, wound another 800,000, wreck the Russian economy for generations to come without risking a single American life. Removing Russia as a credible threat, all for total cost in five years to Americans of about a fifth of what we spend on our military every single year]
#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds

FTFY, not that MAGATs see the destruction of Russia as a bad thing nowadays, ever since they swore their allegiance to an Obese Orange Bag of Pus and decided they hate the FBI and love Russia.

#25 | Posted by censored at 2025-11-23 02:40 PM

Nobody is buying the lie about the "Peace Plan" a/k/a the traitor President's total sellout of IUkraine! Finally even Republicans are seeing what a traitor Trump really is!

#26 | Posted by danni at 2025-11-23 08:15 PM

#26 It is a reality they can no longer sustain.

"Coming apart at the seams" seems quaint, to be honest.

Now it is: Look in the mirror

Bravo, Danni. Thank you.

#27 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-23 08:22 PM

With apologies to Molly Ivins, maybe something was lost in the Russian-to-German-to-English translation.

#28 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-23 08:56 PM

Love the Molly Ivins reference... TX would be a much better place now if it had the attitudes that she and Anne Richards had back in the day:

www.youtube.com

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-23 09:28 PM

All that did was keep the war going and help the Bidens keep the money laundering machine churning.
#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Keeping the war going, rather than have Russia roll over Ukraine?
Don't lie, that's not "nothing" to you.
That's your side, failing to win.

Why do you support Russia? I don't get it. Care to explain?

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-24 09:21 AM

Time for a name change soon. Your Schtick is wearing thin.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-23 12:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Awe, look at him trying to be cute. My account is older than yours, raetard.

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-23 01:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is where ole donnerboy cuts and runs. What a stupid comment.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-11-24 09:37 AM

Gotta take every W your pathetic life throws your way, eh?

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2025-11-24 10:27 AM

All that did was keep the war going and help the Bidens keep the money laundering machine churning.
#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds

This gullible moron lies about the Bidens while completely ignoring the actual money laundering going on with Trump's crypto and DJT stock scam that keeps pumping money in his pocket as he sells his shares in the worthless company.

And that's not counting deals his son and son-in-law are making due to Trump's being in the WH.

#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-11-24 10:51 AM

This is where ole donnerboy cuts and runs. What a stupid comment.

#31 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Rigger please!

It's just friendly a word of advice. Take it or leave it.

I don't cut and run from liars. Liars are known cowards who try to hide behind lies.

Your lies define you.

Your current handle will always be known as a hateful liar. No one here will ever believe a word you type without verification from 2 reliable sources. Everything you say is immediately suspect.

But hey.. If that's how you want to be known then that's your choice and that's fine by me.

You are known.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-24 11:15 AM

"Stupid Biden money-laundering machine!"

#35 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-11-24 11:35 AM

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