Thursday, April 30, 2026

Barney Frank embarks on a final act: Taking on the left

The former Massachusetts lawmaker says progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

Posted by A_Friend at 03:03 PM | 201 COMMENTS | permalink

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Former Rep. Barney Frank, a liberal icon who was a key architect of the landmark Wall Street regulations Democrats enacted in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, has entered hospice care at his home in Maine. And as one of his last acts, he is preparing to release a book repudiating his party's left flank.

A champion of liberal causes during his 32 years representing Massachusetts in the House, Frank says progressive Democrats have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

#1 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 03:04 PM

See also: The Overton Window

See also: Powell Memorandum to the United States Chamber of Commerce

#2 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 03:07 PM

Time for this dinosaur to go extinct.

#3 | Posted by qcp at 2026-04-30 03:12 PM

#3 Ingratitude is a Cardinal sin, QPC.

#4 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 03:24 PM

He says he's "not arguing that anybody should stop his or her advocacy."

"But it's one thing to advocate something knowing that you're going beyond the current viewpoints, and another to make it a litmus test," he said.

#5 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 03:32 PM

"When I decided, finally, to come out in '87, it just struck me when I did that ... the American people are a lot less homophobic than they thought they were supposed to be," he said.

"More racist, unfortunately, but less homophobic."

"For a lot of my colleagues, the argument has been, well, we don't support defund the police or open borders, and we don't say we do,'" Frank said. "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it."

He says he's "not arguing that anybody should stop his or her advocacy."

"But it's one thing to advocate something knowing that you're going beyond the current viewpoints, and another to make it a litmus test," he said.

"One of my regrets," he said, "is that I won't see the continued implosion of [President] Donald Trump."

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Sounds more like a complaint that Dems should be more aggressive. Um, OK!

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-30 03:36 PM

Thanks for your service, Barney, and goodbye.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-04-30 03:39 PM

"For a lot of my colleagues, the argument has been, well, we don't support defund the police or open borders, and we don't say we do,'" Frank said. "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it."
The repudiation of which he speaks is towards the defund the police or open borders crowd.

It is those ideas that Frank says should be repudiated.

And if by that you mean that Dems should be more aggressive in countering such ideas, then you are 100% correct.

#8 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 03:41 PM

"it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it"

This would be from a former legislator talking about his former colleagues.

IOW, folks who sit at the adult's table.

But it's been declared that silence prohibits you from sitting there.

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-30 03:47 PM

Barney figured it out that moderate democrats are moderate because their base is moderate as well?

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-30 03:57 PM

What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires.

Unfortunately democratic voters have realized the Democratic Party is more interested in maintaining the status quo than fighting for Americans.

Wall Street and corporate America doing well means jack ---- to minimum wage workers or people unable to find work that pays them a living wage.

This is what's costing democrats voters.

Billionaires own both parties and voters are looking for an alternative.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.
He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires.
Unfortunately democratic voters have realized the Democratic Party is more interested in maintaining the status quo than fighting for Americans.
Wall Street and corporate America doing well means jack ---- to minimum wage workers or people unable to find work that pays them a living wage.
This is what's costing democrats voters.

Billionaires own both parties and voters are looking for an alternative.

Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM | Reply

Bears repeating in triplicate spades.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-04-30 05:04 PM

#12 Clown actually tries to twist Barney Frank's words into something they're not (and shame on you, Ms. Laura, for failing to recognize this)...

When Barney Frank said "For a lot of my colleagues, the argument has been, well, we don't support defund the police or open borders, and we don't say we do,'" Frank said. "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it."

Nothing in there about the DNC.

Therefore, that has absolutely nothing to do with "He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out..."

That's just...


'Tis almost like you (and Ms. Laura) never bothered to read the actual article.

#13 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:34 PM

Clown actually tries to twist Barney Frank's words into something they're not

Well, don't keep us waiting, what does Mr Frank mean when he says, progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

What exactly is this "agenda that's beyond what's politically acceptable"?

You know what's interesting is the lack of voices saying, "Republicans have embrace an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

we don't support defund the police or open borders

Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda.

Democrats never suggested to defund the police. The argument was the bloated budget given to law enforcement agencies was being spent on tanks and weapons of mass destruction, when instead some of the money could be used differently to benefit society and prevent scenarios where the police would be necessary.

As far as open borders, better hurry up and start building Trump's wall!

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

"...what does Mr Frank mean when he says, progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

Get back to me when you understand ...

The Overton Window and,

Powell Memorandum to the United States Chamber of Commerce

Understand those, Clown, and you will understand what Barney Frank was saying when he said "progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

Gosh.

beyond what's politically acceptable = it turns voters off.

Is that what you're advocating, Clown?

Shoving down the throats of American voters an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable

Now that's a winning argument all across America. Right? /s

#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#14 Gosh. After claiming Barney Frank meant something he didn't really mean (in Clown's #11, seconded (stupidly) by Ms. Laura)...

...now you're claiming that Barney Frank is "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Which is it, Clown?

#16 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:03 PM

Jesus Christ.

Just say you haven't a clue and save us both the time of reading your nonsense.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:03 PM

When are you going to donate to Trump's wall?

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:03 PM

#18 Why are you defending a policy that turns off many Americans (open borders), Clown?

#19 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:05 PM

I actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said.

Did you?

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:07 PM

#17 Just say you haven't a clue and save us both the time of reading your nonsense, Clown.

After claiming Barney Frank meant something he didn't really mean (in your #11, seconded (stupidly) by Ms. Laura)...

...now you're claiming that Barney Frank is "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Which is it, Clown?

#21 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:07 PM

Why are you defending a policy that turns off many Americans (open borders), Clown?

Why aren't you at the border, building a wall, Friend?

If you're unable to, at least donate to Trump's campaign so he can build the wall he promised.

Open Borders are destroying America!

Chop chop!

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:09 PM

After claiming Barney Frank meant something he didn't really mean

Here's your second opportunity to tell us all what Poor Old Barney Frank meant.

Let's see what happens.

I bet you post a lot of nonsense.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:11 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, you make a 180 turn and then claim that Barney Frank...
"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#24 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:17 PM

You yet again squander your opportunity to tell us what you think Barney Frank meant.

You have however displayed an absolutely abysmal lack of comprehension of what you're reading.

Perhaps more HTML?

Have you meat SHRIMPdick? He seems more like an appropriate person for you to converse with.

You guys can destroy an entire thread with your posts.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:26 PM


Wall Street and corporate America doing well means jack ---- to minimum wage workers or people unable to find work that pays them a living wage.
This is what's costing democrats voters.

You still haven't made the connection of 9Million new unskilled labor immigrants would have on min wage workers.


When are you going to donate to Trump's wall?
#18 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Classic Clown, anything opposed to what Biden did to the US is having to literally participate in building Trumps wall.

Truly lives up to his alias.

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-30 07:26 PM

9Million new unskilled labor immigrants

But enough about you.

Classic Clown, always repeating Trump's words!

Trump was gonna have that wall up his first term.

Perhaps if you had donated more ...

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:30 PM

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#28 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2026-04-30 07:30 PM

... The former Massachusetts lawmaker says progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable." ...

Yeah. And?

The progressives of the Democratic party are not the Democratic Party.

What else he got?

#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 07:34 PM

Barney Frank, "Progressives are destroying America! Now excuse me, I have plans with my husband later."

Mr Frank should be grateful for when progressives fought for marriage equality so he could marry the man he loves.

The Republican Party doesn't represent America.

It represents a handful of billionaires who are controlling our country.

Democrats trying to be moderate republicans isn't the solution.

As the Republicans get more extreme, the solution isn't to keep trying to meet them half way.

Wake up.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:36 PM

-The progressives of the Democratic party are not the Democratic Party.

do you think it's possible many progressives believe there are more actual similar progressives than there really are?

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-30 07:37 PM

#22 As expected...


Your sense of political insight is enough for a person to give up all hope for the Democratic Party and any hope for progressive progress.

It has absolutely nothing to do with A_Friend's opinion on open borders, closed borders, wall/no wall.

If you had any sense of political insight you would understand that these three (3) basic political facts in America in 2026:

  1. America is a two-party political system - the Democratic Party and the Republican Party

  2. American politics is a zero-sum game: one side loses when the other side wins

  3. Americans of voting age have different motivations for voting how they do - "All politics is local" as Tip O'Neil said. You force down the throats of Americans of voting age in a particular area can be political gold ... or political poison
Here's a dime, buy a clue, Clown ...

Here's a dime, buy a clue

Save your Los Angelas politics for LA and California. But stop trying to shove down the throats of every single American voter your sense of "politics."

You're ensuring a Democratic Party wilderness for decades to come.

You're welcome.

#32 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:37 PM

#25 In a sense of impending humiliation, Clown actually admits to being illiterate.

As anyone can easily see, I did respond in both my #13 and in my #15, Clown.

It is not my problem that you can neither read nor at least acknowledge your illiteracy.

But what's fun is that everyone else here can see that I responded.

You're welcome, Clown.

#33 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:44 PM

"The progressives of the Democratic party are not the Democratic Party."
- Lamplighter

"I use to be a Republican."
- Also Lamplighter

What would the Democratic Party be without Progressives?

Just another version of the Republican Party.

Conservatives broke the Republican Party and made Trump possible.

Trump broke America.

If Louisiana can cancel an election, all states can.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:49 PM

You're welcome.
#32 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

You made an entire post about me rather than simply telling me what you believe Mr Frank means.

Do you see how this looks?

Like you're crazy.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:51 PM

#35 You made an entire post without bothering to read what I wrote about what Mr. Frank means (belief not necessary:

#12 Clown actually tries to twist Barney Frank's words into something they're not (and shame on you, Ms. Laura, for failing to recognize this)...
When Barney Frank said "For a lot of my colleagues, the argument has been, well, we don't support defund the police or open borders, and we don't say we do,'" Frank said. "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it."
Nothing in there about the DNC.
Therefore, that has absolutely nothing to do with "He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out..."
#13 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:34 PM
...what does Mr Frank mean when he says, progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Get back to me when you understand ...
The Overton Window and,
Powell Memorandum to the United States Chamber of Commerce
Understand those, Clown, and you will understand what Barney Frank was saying when he said "progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Gosh.
beyond what's politically acceptable = it turns voters off.
Is that what you're advocating, Clown?
Shoving down the throats of American voters an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable
Now that's a winning argument all across America. Right? /s
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM
Your next humiliation, Clown?

#36 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:56 PM

You're welcome, Clown.
#33 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

All the HTML in the world can't hide the fact you can't answer my question.

If Barney Frank's point isn't that democrats should vote for the candidate on the ballot regardless, then what is it?

Here's yet another chance for you to avoid answering a straight forward question and post more nonsense.

Have at it.

You trolls are all the same.

You're more like SHRIMPdick than I imagined.

SHRIMPdick with HTML.

All spam, no substance.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:56 PM

#35 You made an entire post without bothering to read what I wrote about what Mr. Frank means (belief not necessary:

#12 Clown actually tries to twist Barney Frank's words into something they're not (and shame on you, Ms. Laura, for failing to recognize this)...
When Barney Frank said "For a lot of my colleagues, the argument has been, well, we don't support defund the police or open borders, and we don't say we do,'" Frank said. "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it."
Nothing in there about the DNC.
Therefore, that has absolutely nothing to do with "He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out..."
#13 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:34 PM
...what does Mr Frank mean when he says, progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Get back to me when you understand ...
The Overton Window and,
Powell Memorandum to the United States Chamber of Commerce
Understand those, Clown, and you will understand what Barney Frank was saying when he said "progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Gosh.
beyond what's politically acceptable = it turns voters off.
Is that what you're advocating, Clown?
Shoving down the throats of American voters an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable
Now that's a winning argument all across America. Right? /s
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM
Your next humiliation, Clown?

#38 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:57 PM

...what does Mr Frank mean when he says, progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Get back to me when you understand ...
The Overton Window and,
Powell Memorandum to the United States Chamber of Commerce
Understand those, Clown, and you will understand what Barney Frank was saying when he said "progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Gosh.
beyond what's politically acceptable = it turns voters off.
Is that what you're advocating, Clown?
Shoving down the throats of American voters an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable
Now that's a winning argument all across America. Right? /s
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM
Your next humiliation, Clown?

#39 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:57 PM

beyond what's politically acceptable = it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM
Your next humiliation, Clown?

#40 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:58 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, you make a 180 turn and then claim that Barney Frank...
"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#41 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:59 PM

#36 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

I get it.

You don't know what Barney Frank meant.

So you're just reposting his comment from the article.

The DNC should have never nominated Hillary Clinton. She was destined for failure and everything since then has been on them.

They gave us Trump, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, ACB,

Then in their brilliance with Harris, they gave us Vance, Bondi, Noem, Kashyap, ICE attacking America, a war with Iran, complete obliteration of our media, and coming soon, a civil war.

Bravo.

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:03 PM

Your next humiliation, Clown?
#38 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

I feel like if you just keep spamming this thread like an absolute lunatic I'll feel super humiliated.

Just, devastating.

How did you ever figure out such a brilliant strategy?

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:05 PM

100% oops:

"beyond what's politically acceptable" = it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#44 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:07 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#45 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:07 PM

Oh man!

That fixed it.

Thank goodness.

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:07 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#47 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:08 PM

So, which is it, Clown?
Your turn.
#45 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

What were my options again?

Humiliation?

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:08 PM

Teehee hahahahaha that's hilarious and stuff.

#49 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-04-30 08:10 PM

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

And thanks, Ms. Laura.

I used to have the utmost respect for you.

#50 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:20 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#51 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:22 PM

#50 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Are you AI?

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:23 PM

#52 As much as you are, Clown. But I understand your desire to retreat to the coward's "defense."

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#53 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:24 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#54 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:25 PM

A_FRIEND,

Your posts are empty, devoid of thought.

It's almost like you're cycling through your programming.

Can you generate original ideas?

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:25 PM

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#56 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:26 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#57 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:26 PM

@#50 ... Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison ...

Deciding the difference between "political reality" and "political poison" depends upon the voters the Democrats are addressing.

For example. look at TX Rep Talarico. The positions and strategies he is espousing in his race for the Senate slot would have been political poison for the progressive Democrats in the past.

But those positions and strategies seem to be working for him.

#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 08:26 PM

Respond to these, Clown.

Otherwise, copy/paste is my friend.

#59 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:27 PM

#58 In a light of phenomenal brightness, Lamplighter says, "Deciding the difference between "political reality" and "political poison" depends upon the voters the Democrats are addressing."

Thank you.

Thank you.

The audience for winning votes consists of the candidate's constituents.

Again, The audience for winning votes consists of the candidate's constituents.

That's why these future faces of the Democratic Party give me real reason for hope. They are progressives who speak the language that Democrats should be speaking throughout the mid-West.

Absurdity of the so-called "progressives," notwithstanding.

#60 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:34 PM

Respond to these, Clown.

Why? You clearly don't understand what Barney Frank means.

You've already proven it countless times.

It's why you spam HTML and posts no one will ever read.

It's why I generally avoid you.

You're a troll, you're not interesting, and you're unable to post something worth responding to.

#61 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:34 PM

Looks like A_Friend has Clownhack over the proverbial barrel.

#62 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-30 08:34 PM


You clearly don't understand what Barney Frank means.
You've already proven it countless times.

You haven't proven you understand what he means. Clearly he's "attacking" the extremist left wing of the party, which you are part of.

#63 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-30 08:35 PM

#61 100% oops ...

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#64 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:36 PM

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#65 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:36 PM

@#65

Still grinding away?

Why?

#66 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 08:47 PM

#66 Because I can...

#67 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:48 PM

#66 Because I can...

#68 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:48 PM

#69

#66 Because I can...

#69 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:48 PM

#66 Oh, and Clown wasn't my audience.

Too insignificant. :-)

#70 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:50 PM

Clearly he's "attacking" the extremist left wing of the party, which you are part of.
#63 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

This is more of a discussion than A_Friend has managed all thread.

Bravo!

He's attacking us by saying what? More democrats should speak up for moderates?

Let's ignore the fact speaking up isn't a democratic strong suit.

We got Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer and most of democrats in congress already doing that.

What he really means is he wants Mamdani and Bernie and AOC and Crockett and Talarico ... to shut up.

Barney Frank grew up in a different America.

You don't fight Trump with a bunch of timid losers begging for corporate donations and AIPAC support.

Biden did that.

Biden thought he was living in 1980s America and bipartisanship was possible with people screaming "Thank you Brandon!" at him.

Conservatives broke the Republican Party.

The only reason people vote for democrats is because they don't want to vote for republicans.

The only outliers are progressives like Bernie, AOC, Mamdani, Talarico, Crockett ...

Figure it out.

Or don't.

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:56 PM

"I'm a Republican who made Trump possible. But now I'm a democrat and progressives aren't."
-Lamplighter

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:58 PM

"He's attacking us by saying what? More democrats should speak up for moderates?"

Nope.

Not saying that at all, you fool.

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#73 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:58 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#74 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:58 PM

@#67-70

My question becomes ...

Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?

Both the Country and the Democratic Party have moved on past the time he served the people of Massachusetts in Congress.

imo, I think that it is A Good Thing that the Democratic Party seems to be evolving to continue to properly represent the voters they serve.



#75 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 08:58 PM

#72 And Clown does everything he/she/they/it can to piss off fellow allies.

#76 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:59 PM

Clown wasn't my audience.
#70 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

You're literally begging for my attention.

Clean yourself up.

You still haven't explained what point you think Frank is making.

Why is he repeating Republican propaganda from 2020?

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:59 PM

Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?

Boomers losing their grip on reality still believe it's the 1980s.

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:01 PM

#75 Lamp asks, "Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?"


Perhaps we can all learn from experience/expertise/historical acknowledgement ... ?

#79 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:04 PM

#75 Lamp asks, "Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?"


Perhaps we can all learn from experience/expertise/historical acknowledgement ... ?

#80 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:05 PM

#75 Lamp asks, "Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?"


Perhaps we can all learn from experience/expertise/historical acknowledgement ... ?

#81 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:07 PM

#75 Lamp asks, "Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?"


Perhaps we can all learn from experience/expertise/historical acknowledgement ... ?

#82 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:09 PM

#75 Lamp asks, "Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?"


Perhaps we can all learn from experience/expertise/historical acknowledgement ... ?

#83 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:11 PM

Thanks for sharing all those progressives.

Really helped prove to Lamplighter that Progressive Democrats are the heart of the Democratic Party. Progressivism was what got real change accomplished in America.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:14 PM

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

#85 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:16 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#86 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:16 PM

Your turn.
#86 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Again?

Okay.

What do you think Barney Frank means?

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:20 PM

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#88 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:20 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#89 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:21 PM

I'm not sure if I mentioned this.

But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread.

I'm sure it's fully humiliating.

But.

I'm looking for original thought from you and haven't detected any.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:26 PM

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying --- what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#91 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:29 PM

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

#92 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:29 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#93 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:30 PM

Curious...

Actually claim "But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...and than actually say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown?

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Care to thread that needle, Clown?

#94 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:33 PM

Still no thought.

You AI programs are good.

But I'm sure you'll do better in the future.

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:34 PM

Curious...

You actually claim that you are "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...but then you say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown ? ? ? ?

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Care to thread that needle, Clown?

#96 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:36 PM

Meanwhile, I see you're impotent in responding to this ...

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying --- what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#97 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:36 PM

Meanwhile, I see you're impotent in responding to this ...

Curious...

Actually claim "But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...and than actually say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown.

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Chare to thread that needle, Clown?

#98 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:37 PM

Meanwhile, I see you're impotent in responding to this ...

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#99 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:37 PM

Meanwhile, I see you're impotent in responding to this ...

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#100 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:38 PM

My turn?

This is great. I post anything and you generate the same content no one is reading.

It's brilliant.

#101 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:46 PM

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying --- what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#102 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:46 PM

#101 You're not my audience.

But thank you nonetheless, Clown.

Now, meanwhile ...

#103 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:47 PM

Curious...

Clown actually claims "But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...and that you actually say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown.

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Care to thread that needle, Clown?

#104 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:48 PM

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#105 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:48 PM

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying --- what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#106 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:49 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#107 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:49 PM

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...
#102 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Humiliate me more.

Spam a dozen more posts no one will read.

I deserve it.

#108 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:51 PM

#108 Oh? Okay?

Curious...

Clown actually claims "But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...and that you actually say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown.

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Care to thread that needle, Clown?

#109 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:57 PM

#108 Oh? Okay?

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying --- what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#110 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:57 PM

#108 Oh? Okay?

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#111 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:58 PM

#108 Oh? Okay?

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#112 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:58 PM

@#34 ... The progressives of the Democratic party are not the Democratic Party."
- Lamplighter

"I use to be a Republican."
- Also Lamplighter

What would the Democratic Party be without Progressives? ...

Oh, I agree.

Unlike the current GOP, the Democratic Party is not just a one issue-focused aggregation. it is the summation of many varied opinions and views.

I applaud the Democratic Party for its espousing of various views.

I just have a concern when the term "Progressives" is used to describe the Democratic Party.

imo, Progressive are just a part of the Democratic Party, not the whole party.

#113 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 10:00 PM

Progressive are just a part of the Democratic Party, not the whole party

And that's the problem.

Democrats were strongest when they were progressives. FDR democrats, the ones who fought for the new deal and the democrats born from them that formed unions and fought for civil rights, equal rights and equal representation ... they were all progressives.

Abandoning progressivism because republicans turned it into a dirty word is where democrats went wrong. Republicans demonized Jimmy Carter and progressivists and Clinton sold the party to the corporate class.

This nation needs progressive leadership and policies if we're to keep up with the rest of the world.

#114 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 10:41 PM

Interesting how ...

c0ri0lanus
speaksoftly
ClownShack
...are conspicuously absent from this thread... except to condemn the Democratic Party.

But make a thread about "...the weaknesses and failures of the Democratic Party." (h/t: Clown)

And there's no end of Pollyannas

c0ri0lanus
speaksoftly
ClownShack
I wish I was wrong...

#115 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:43 PM

#114 Clown actually says, "This nation needs progressive leadership and policies..."

Then do the work necessary to elect progressive leadership...

... instead of trashing and damning the only alternative to Trump and the Republican Party, Clown, on a platform where you might be able to stroke your political penis...

... but will have zero effect.

#116 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:47 PM

Interesting how lamplighter and I can actually have a discussion like adults while you're still spamming your C&Ps like an unhinged crazy person.

Did you skip your meds today?

Keep scrapbooking these clever comments of yours.

Everyone is impressed.

Especially those voices in your head.

#117 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 10:50 PM

Then do the work necessary to elect progressive leadership...

We are.

#118 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 10:50 PM

Interesting how ...

c0ri0lanus
speaksoftly
ClownShack
...are conspicuously absent from this thread.

But make a thread about "...the weaknesses and failures of the Democratic Party." (h/t: Clown)

And there's no end of Pollyannas

c0ri0lanus
speaksoftly
ClownShack
I wish I was wrong...

#119 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:50 PM

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#120 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:51 PM

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#121 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:51 PM

You know, Clown, it is fun watching you ...


And there's zero doubt that it is just way too easy to push your buttons ...


As evidenced by your inability to control your impulses ...

... just like Trump.

--- ... that was easy!

Postscript: Kiss our friends in the artistic community in West Hollywood, Clown.

Love you.

#122 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:55 PM

Although I am not very well-versed in these types of politics, I do believe that Barney Frank has a thinly veiled concern for the end of American political support for Israel. I believe that is the main reason why he supports Janet Mills over Platner.

Truly, for Frank (who is Jewish and has a history of deep support by pro-Israelis) and many other senior members of the political spectrum, refusing to support Israel and to be openly critical of its current actions and behaviors after nearly 50 years of overwhelming support is "embracing an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

#123 | Posted by Expectingreign at 2026-04-30 10:56 PM

@#114 ... Democrats were strongest when they were progressives ...

I agree.

But the emphasis nowadays is upon the word "were."


The electorate has moved on.

Will the Democrats also move on?

#124 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 10:58 PM

#123 There's something most interesting about a post that begins with, Although I am not very well-versed in these types of politics...." ...

... that then proceeds to comment on those types of politics, inspite of the fact of being, self-proclaimed, "I am not very well-versed in these types of politics..."

Interesting, indeed.

#125 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:00 PM


The electorate has moved on.

Will the Democrats also move on?

Based on the popularity of progressive candidates like Mamdani, Talarico, and Crockett, and the continued enthusiasm for Bernie and AOC, I'm not too sure where you believe you see democrats having moved on.

If anything, I see democrats distancing themselves from billionaires and AIPAC.

#126 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 11:32 PM

Interesting, indeed.
#125 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

You're a bore.

Go update your programming.

#127 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 11:33 PM

#127 Yet, you keep responding to me, Clown. Why is that?

Curious...

Clown actually claims "But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...and that you actually say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown.

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Care to thread that needle, Clown?

#128 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:34 PM

#127 Yet, you keep responding to me, Clown. Why is that?

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying --- what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#129 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:34 PM

#127 Yet, you keep responding to me, Clown. Why is that?

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#130 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:35 PM

#127 Yet, you keep responding to me, Clown. Why is that?

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#131 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:36 PM

You know, Clown, it is fun watching you ...


And there's zero doubt that it is just way too easy to push your buttons ...


As evidenced by your inability to control your impulses ...

... just like Trump.

--- ... that was easy!

Postscript: Kiss our friends in the artistic community in West Hollywood, Clown.

Love you.

#132 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:37 PM

"And there's no end of Pollyannas
c0ri0lanus
speaksoftly
ClownShack"

Pollyanna? Why not use "Puritopian"? ;-)

Clown was the first guy that welcomed you back to this place back in early February and now you -------- your OH logorrhea and dump on him like a complete ------- jackass. Good job, FRIEND!

#133 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-04-30 11:42 PM

"Clown was the first guy that welcomed you back to this place back in early February..."

Which makes his betrayal that much more egregious.

#134 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:44 PM

#133 And you never responded to my post.

Noted.

#135 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:45 PM

@#135

OK, I have to ask at this point, why is your alias trolling this evening?

While I do appreciate the ad revenue its comments bring to RCade, I still wonder why the sudden change of behavior of your alias, i.e., from thoughtful comments to apparent trolling?


What changed to bring on this apparent new behavior?


#136 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 11:51 PM

Democrats controlled the House for 40 years. Why? They were the party of the working class. They didn't need identity politics, DEI, open borders or any of that. They were popular and had lots of power because they represented workers. If they can find a way to get back to that they'd be able to relegate the GOP into the weeds.

#137 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-30 11:54 PM

#136 Lamp asks, "...why is your alias trolling this evening?"

To which I would respond ...

WTF aren't you taking the rightwingers/internecine warriors to task, Lamp?

"What changed to bring on this apparent new behavior?"

"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention"



#138 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:58 PM

"Which makes his betrayal that much more egregious"

Aw, his "betrayal" has got you worked up into a state of SPAMICIDE with the obligatory overused GIF files. Almost like CENSORED on crack. It's all about you, isn't it FRIEND?

You wanna follow me around, dog? Multiple fire hydrant pissings like you do when you follow Coriolanus and ClownShack? Have at it. After all, DOG is a man's best FRIEND, A FRIEND could be man's best dog and I still like to herd NERFS every once in a while.

#139 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-04-30 11:59 PM

#137 BIOYA, bell boi.

No one wants your Jonathan Turley "take."

It is not welcomed here.

#140 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:59 PM

# 139 Thanks for proving my point, nerf.

And still noted that you ran away from my question.

#141 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:01 AM

" Based on the popularity of progressive candidates like Mamdani, Talarico, and Crockett, and the continued enthusiasm for Bernie and AOC, I'm not too sure where you believe you see democrats having moved on."

Madmani ran against a corrupt and hated has-been. Crocket is about to be unemployed. Talarico hasn't even won anything and is likely Beto 2.0. AOC got elected in a very blue district. What none of these people have is broad national appeal, especially with the middle. All of which is the point of this thread.

#142 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-05-01 12:02 AM

" It is not welcomed here.

#140 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND AT 2026-04-30 11:59 PM | FLAG: "

IDGAF.

Unless Rcade tells me to stop posting I I will say whatever the ---- I want.

#143 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-05-01 12:03 AM

#142 So long as there are people like NerfHerder, your "contributions" aren't necessary, bell boi.

NerfHerder, et. al., will do the heavy lifting by condemning those people who aren't pure, paving the way for Republicans to use such condemnation as fodder for their ad campaigns.

#144 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:06 AM

#143 Didn't Rcade already do that to a previous moniker of yours, bell boi?

#145 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:07 AM

" I believe that is the main reason why he supports Janet Mills over Platner"

He probably doesn't like Platner's Nazi tattoo. Regardless, it doesn't matter. Nt sure if you heard, Mills suspended her campaign.

#146 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-05-01 12:12 AM

#143 Didn't Rcade already do that to a previous moniker of yours, bell boi?

#147 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:13 AM

Aww, my name is mentioned three times within the first five minutes after adopting my new pet. He's such a quick learner.

More GIF files of dimes and spoiled Asian kids rolling around on the ground, dog!

#148 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-01 12:15 AM

#148 And still noted that you ran away from my question.

#149 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:16 AM

Nerfherder is scruffy looking.

#150 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-05-01 12:18 AM

#148 History, Stephen said, is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake

... and, yet, you sleep through it.

#151 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:19 AM

#143 Didn't Rcade already do that to a previous moniker of yours, bell boi?

#152 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:21 AM

@#152

Still grinding away on this thread.

Why?

#153 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-05-01 12:44 AM

"Barney Frank embarks on a final act: Taking on the left enemies of AIPAC"

#154 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-01 12:46 AM

@#154

Yeah, that seems to be a relevant observation on this thread.

Calling up, and evoking, an old (ancient?) Democratic figure as someone who should be obeyed in the current world.



#155 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-05-01 12:53 AM

Madmani ran against a corrupt and hated has-been.

Mamdani ran against the GOP and the DNC and Bloomberg and Israel and still won NYC and has been a very successful mayor for the city so far.

Crocket is about to be unemployed.

Weird way to gloss over Texas Republicans unilaterally gerrymandering the state on Trump's behest.

Talarico hasn't even won anything and is likely Beto 2.0.

Talarico is nothing like Beto. You sound stupid.

AOC got elected in a very blue district.

You've hated AOC since you heard of her because she reminds you of everything your not. Accomplished, intelligent, ambitious.

Regardless of your constant need to diminish her, she's a force in the party and in America.

What none of these people have is broad national appeal, especially with the middle.

Your understand of what the middle wants is about as crystal clear as your understanding of Sanskrit. Which is, absolutely none existent.

All of which is the point of this thread.
#142 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

This thread is about a man who once considered himself progressive no longer finding himself in agreement with today's progressive society.

The world has changed.

Republicans and Trump broke America.

Democrats don't stand for anything when it comes to legislation.

They're paralyzed. Unable to betray their corporate masters.

#156 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 01:20 AM

@#156 ... The world has changed. ...

Bingo!

Trying to use an ancient Democratic figure as a pillar of the current Democrats is, at best, quite lame.

#157 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-05-01 01:28 AM

House Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC):

Ten million followers on Instagram and 4.1 million followers on TikTok.

AOC 14th CD constituency in the Bronx and Queens: 700,000 voters.

#158 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-01 01:54 AM

@#156 ... Talarico is nothing like Beto. ...

From the reporting I've seen so far, I can only agree.

TX Rep Talarico seems to know the voters he is appealing to, and has been talking with them bout what matters for them.


#159 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-05-01 02:15 AM

-Regardless of your constant need to diminish her, she's a force in the party and in America.

This was a good thread to read through. You make some good points. I'm not a fan of A Friend's posting style but he also makes good points. You're both right, IMO.

But this is where I disagree. AOC is from a very blue district and she can be used effectively if done wisely and with caution.

As it was pointed out.....the Democratic Party is not entirely progressive as much as you want it to be.

I hope the party doesn't make the mistake of believing AOC can turn moderate democrats into progressives. To get them to buy into progressive policies they currently don't support.

She can't. The right won't let it happen. The right will scare the ---- out of them if the democratic party tries to stretch her too far.

#160 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-01 09:33 AM

Shut Up.

#161 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-05-01 09:37 AM

Barney was just being frank.

#162 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-01 10:53 AM

" it's been declared that silence prohibits you from sitting there."

Well Eb, step up to the plate. Let us know your "adult" answer.

If you're running deficit budgets, and you have expiring tax cuts ...

... does renewing the tax cuts constitute NEW SPENDING?

And has somebody who shows no knowledge of the connection earned a seat at the adults table or not?

Let's see where you'll be sitting.

#163 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-01 11:14 AM

-Let us know your "adult" answer.

To what question?

Barney Frank criticized members of congress for their silence.
You criticized Bellringer for his silence.

You also decided that silence relegates you to the kids table.

Are you criticizing mine? I didn't realize you're here 24/7 to even know that but whatever.

-Let's see where you'll be sitting.

I'm sorry but where do you think you sit?

Quiet members of congress aren't sitting at a table you're sitting at?

That's a pretty empty table you're sitting at.

#164 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-01 12:42 PM

"I'm sorry but where do you think you sit?"

I've been sitting at the adults' table since the mid 80s. Were you still in diapers?

"To what question"

You're not that stupid. Clearly, you're afraid to admit the truth: if someone was spewing the same type of clueless BS in YOUR industry, you wouldn't want them at the big kids' table either.

#165 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-01 12:53 PM

"Quiet members of congress aren't sitting at a table you're sitting at?"

On the contrary: lots of Democrats warned about focal crises if Trump renewed the trillions in tax giveaways. My guess is you don't follow the news outlets that report facts like that.

From the Democrats side, it was a bit ubiquitous. That's a very crowded table.

#166 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-01 12:55 PM

-My guess is you don't follow the news outlets that report facts like that.

correct.

-I've been sitting at the adults' table since the mid 80s.

nice flex. I'll let you have the last word with that.

#167 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-01 01:07 PM

"nice flex."

It was the AIDS crisis, and I was representing a bunch of Actors who were just about to lose their health insurance.

That led to over three decades of volunteering, culminating with being elected to a trustee of a multi billion dollar health and pension fund.

You know ... the big kids' table.

No "hyperbole" allowed. Dealing with real numbers and real issues only. Fakers and poseurs not allowed.

#168 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-01 01:17 PM

^"focal"

= fiscal.

#169 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-01 01:24 PM

"if someone was spewing the same type of clueless BS in YOUR industry, you wouldn't want them at the big kids' table either."

The night after the health insurance announcement, I called an emergency meeting of every working actor in town. Most of them showed up to the meeting, and were stunned into silence when I pointed out requirements had just spiked by over 65%.

Then the newest member of Equity, in his 20s and third or fourth month of Union membership, piped up: "What do we need health insurance for, anyway???"

Would anybody here invite him to the adults' table?

#170 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-01 01:31 PM

- Barney was just being frank.
#162 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-01 10:53 AM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)
| Funny: 3

OK, I get it now... you people are easily entertained!

#171 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-01 02:28 PM

Damn Clown, do you know how to read?

Barney's point is that there is a very vocal minority in the left, specifically consolidated in the very progressive end of the party. They push for things that are not palatable for most of the party, but since they sit in positions of influence the rest of the party sits silent since they don't support it but don't argue against it in fear of failing the litmus test the minority wields.

So ... "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it." Speaks to that. The silent majority of the Democratic party has to start pushing back against the overly progressive portion of the party.

If you got anything else from those words, you need to learn to self reflect and realize that your extreme partisanship has truly colored your vision.

#172 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-05-01 02:45 PM

- your extreme partisanship has truly colored your vision.

BWAAHAHAHAHAA!!

That's the Rwinger calling progressives, 'Partisan Hacks'... Trumpers can ne SO obtuse; he won the popular vote by a little over 1 percent, but he should be treated as King of the World??!!

#173 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-01 03:30 PM

Didn't vote for Trump, and those that get closer to the far end of the right are just as blinded by their partisanship too.

The only ones who are obtuse are those that think only the other side does it, and they are the faultless virtuous ones. Again, self reflection...

I never said Hack either, not sure why that'd be quoted unless it was air quotes and you tried to denote a vague summary of my point with the single quotes.

#174 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-05-01 03:58 PM

And if you're not so blinded by partisanship, I'd love to hear a different interpretation of Bernie's words that are accurate AND different from my interpretation.

This whole discussion is just another rehashing of why Kamala lost and we have Trump as president. The overly powerful for their actual representation of their party pushed a candidate and an agenda that doesn't resonate with the majority and they lost. Bernie is warning those that are in the Party and see it to stop being silent and take the party back.

#175 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-05-01 04:01 PM

Accusing progressives of, "extreme partisanship" compared to the Rwing White Nationalists who have caused the vast majority of Domestic Terrorism in this country for the last several decades now, according to the FBI and DHS... is just to absurd to pass over.

#176 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-01 04:08 PM

Damn Clown, do you know how to read?

No.

Barney's point is that there is a very vocal minority in the left, specifically consolidated in the very progressive end of the party.

The Democratic Party without progressives is nothing. It stands for nothing. It accomplishes nothing. It maintains whatever status quo republicans leave behind.

They push for things that are not palatable for most of the party,

Civil rights, national healthcare, no wars, spending tax dollars on Americans, increasing taxes for the wealthiest Americans?

Those concepts aren't palatable?

Which ones specifically?

since they sit in positions of influence

The minority have the position of influence. Could it be because their message is more relatable with the majority of the Americans?

the rest of the party sits silent since they don't support it but don't argue against it in fear of failing the litmus test the minority wields.

What do they have to say? Be content with what you got? We won't do anything about what republican policies are doing to America? Give your money to the wealthy and shut up about it?

Seriously. What appeal do you think moderates have? "Vote for us, nothing will change!" "We won't do anything the rich don't like!"

So ... "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it." Speaks to that. The silent majority of the Democratic party has to start pushing back against the overly progressive portion of the party.

The "silent majority" of the Democrats have nothing to offer and are silently collecting paychecks while letting republicans run the country.

"Nothing will fundamentally change!" - Joe Biden, the failure.

Trump and republicans changed everything. Biden promised to keep it exactly the way Trump left it, and he did.

Do nothing democrats aren't the answer.

Progressives are.

If you got anything else from those words, you need to learn to self reflect and realize that your extreme partisanship has truly colored your vision.
#172 | POSTED BY KWRX25

I asked you before to share which extreme policies you believe progressives are advocating for which you're opposed to and you never answered.

Perhaps one of these days you'll actually figure out the reason you're opposed to progressives is because you're the victim of republican propaganda.

#177 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 04:29 PM

This whole discussion is just another rehashing of why Kamala lost

She never had a chance.

Never.

Blaming anyone other than Biden and the DNC is absurd.

#178 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 04:31 PM

"Argh! Stupid progressives! They don't improve the lives of everyday Americans! Blargh! Give tax cuts to the oligarchs and stop the schwartzers from voting! Argh! Hamas! Plargh!"

#179 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-01 04:34 PM

Five Reasons Harris Lost

Why Kamala Harris lost: A flawed candidate or doomed campaign?

Wrong voters, wrong message: progressives' autopsy lays bare Kamala Harris failures

Why Kamala Harris lost the election

Brookings: Why Donald Trump won and Kamala Harris lost: An early analysis of the results

There is no one reason Harris lost

Politicians and activists are trying to sell disingenuous and nonfactual explanations of why Harris lost to push their ideology. Don't fall for it.
Democrats were united and turned out. Harris lost anyway.
Voters issued a broad repudiation of not only Harris' campaign but the Democratic Party's vision for the country.
A Former Republican Strategist on Why Harris Lost
Inflation, moderation, and candidate effects
What Was the Biggest Factor in Kamala Harris's Defeat?

#180 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 04:34 PM

#179 Numbers 1, 2 and 3 each had working majorities in both the US House and US Senate.

What are you doing, Caius Marcius Coriolanus, to ensure that the next Democratic president has the same advantage?

#181 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 04:37 PM

Five Reasons Harris Lost

1) The nation saw Biden choke and democrats were in a tailspin.

2) Harris was foisted upon America as the candidate to beat. Despite her being the first candidate to drop out of the 2020 primaries and her being attached to the dumpster fire Biden administration.

3) Republicans had a brilliant strategy for how to beat her.

4) Her campaign started in August 2024.

5) Elon Musk played a vital role in helping Trump win.

#182 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 05:08 PM

#182 Sorry, Clown.

The mental ravings of a liberal ensconced in a liberal paradise hardly has a legitimate or standing to comment on what the authors (plural) have said here:

Five Reasons Harris Lost

Why Kamala Harris lost: A flawed candidate or doomed campaign?

Wrong voters, wrong message: progressives' autopsy lays bare Kamala Harris failures

Why Kamala Harris lost the election

Brookings: Why Donald Trump won and Kamala Harris lost: An early analysis of the results

There is no one reason Harris lost

Politicians and activists are trying to sell disingenuous and nonfactual explanations of why Harris lost to push their ideology. Don't fall for it.
Democrats were united and turned out. Harris lost anyway.
Voters issued a broad repudiation of not only Harris' campaign but the Democratic Party's vision for the country.
A Former Republican Strategist on Why Harris Lost
Inflation, moderation, and candidate effects
What Was the Biggest Factor in Kamala Harris's Defeat?
Respond to the points raised there (with citations) with something that resembles reality for the rest of us who are trying - trying to see that the Democrats take control of the US House and US Senate this November, 2026.

What are you doing for that, Clown?

#183 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 05:24 PM

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#184 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 05:29 PM

What are you doing for that, Clown?
#183 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Being humiliated?

You gonna throw a temper tantrum and wallpaper the thread with spam again?

Harris failed. But the DNC is to blame.

Hillary failed and she's the only one to blame.

The Democratic Party without progressives is nothing.

None of you can refute this or prove what moderate democrats stand for.

#185 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 05:29 PM

Your turn, Clown.
#184 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Spamming already?

Brain damage is fascinating to witness.

What type of retarded are you?

High functioning, obviously.

But clearly in a facility that takes care of you and gives you internet access.

That's wonderful.

#186 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 05:31 PM

#185 Correction, Clown: The Democratic Party - with only progressives - is nothing

You actually have to appeal to a majority of the voters in order to win an election.

Purity never has anything to do with it.

#187 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 05:32 PM

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#188 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 05:33 PM

You actually have to appeal to a majority of the voters in order to win an election.

Trump disproves that.

#189 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 05:36 PM

So, which is it, Clown?
Your turn, Clown.
#188 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Oh ----.

I finally read your comment.

You realize those two posts are unrelated and neither of them are in support of Barney Frank's statement.

How weird you've been spamming that nonsense.

Humiliating?

#190 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 05:39 PM

#189 Oh? The majority of voters did just that, Clown.

Or are you one of those people who believes in election integrity only when you win?

#191 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 05:40 PM

Also. Seems like you agree with my #11.

#192 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 05:41 PM

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

#193 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 05:41 PM

Or are you one of those people who believes in election integrity only when you win?
#191 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Trump won in 2016 despite losing the popular vote. Therefore. Not the majority.

Deep breaths. You're gonna get lightheaded and pass out.

#194 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 05:43 PM

#192 Perhaps.

But you contradicted it in less than 145 minutes, Clown.

#195 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 05:44 PM

Except I don't.

You're conflating two different posts.

It's causing you anguish.

#196 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 05:47 PM

#197 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-01 05:48 PM

#194 2016? How about 2024?

Live in the now, Clown.

Now, WTF are you here and not here:

Support for workers marks May Day protests in California

Paris Barraza
Noe Padilla
USA TODAY
May 1, 2026, 5:17 p.m. ET

Or are you one of those "I am holier-than-Thou" liberals?

Aren't you one of those who recommend that Democratic candidates talk to their constituents, not at them?

That's been the success story of Democratic Party candidates forever (can't speak to GOP candidates, however).

You know, Democrats like Zohran Mamdani, Abigail Spanberger, Graham Platner...

... and even some future faces of the Democratic Party

You?

#198 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 05:54 PM


The Tuesday 5 Nov 2024 death toll of ~20,000 Palestinians murdered by the IDF with American taxpayer dollars and weapons didn't help the Democratic Party ticket at all. Just like supporting Saigon didn't help the Hubert Humphrey and Ed Muskie ticket on Tuesday 5 Nov 1968.

#199 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-01 05:56 PM

#196 I provide both the quote and the direct citation.

Or are you trying the Donald John "believe me not your lying eyes" Trump "technique," Clown?

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

I report, you decide.

#200 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 05:57 PM

#199 Flag:

#201 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 05:59 PM

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