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Former Rep. Barney Frank, a liberal icon who was a key architect of the landmark Wall Street regulations Democrats enacted in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, has entered hospice care at his home in Maine. And as one of his last acts, he is preparing to release a book repudiating his party's left flank.

A champion of liberal causes during his 32 years representing Massachusetts in the House, Frank says progressive Democrats have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

#1 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 03:04 PM | Reply

See also: The Overton Window

See also: Powell Memorandum to the United States Chamber of Commerce

#2 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 03:07 PM | Reply

Time for this dinosaur to go extinct.

#3 | Posted by qcp at 2026-04-30 03:12 PM | Reply

#3 Ingratitude is a Cardinal sin, QPC.

#4 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 03:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

He says he's "not arguing that anybody should stop his or her advocacy."

"But it's one thing to advocate something knowing that you're going beyond the current viewpoints, and another to make it a litmus test," he said.

#5 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 03:32 PM | Reply

"When I decided, finally, to come out in '87, it just struck me when I did that ... the American people are a lot less homophobic than they thought they were supposed to be," he said.

"More racist, unfortunately, but less homophobic."

"For a lot of my colleagues, the argument has been, well, we don't support defund the police or open borders, and we don't say we do,'" Frank said. "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it."

He says he's "not arguing that anybody should stop his or her advocacy."

"But it's one thing to advocate something knowing that you're going beyond the current viewpoints, and another to make it a litmus test," he said.

"One of my regrets," he said, "is that I won't see the continued implosion of [President] Donald Trump."

;;

Sounds more like a complaint that Dems should be more aggressive. Um, OK!

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-30 03:36 PM | Reply

Thanks for your service, Barney, and goodbye.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-04-30 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"For a lot of my colleagues, the argument has been, well, we don't support defund the police or open borders, and we don't say we do,'" Frank said. "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it."
The repudiation of which he speaks is towards the defund the police or open borders crowd.

It is those ideas that Frank says should be repudiated.

And if by that you mean that Dems should be more aggressive in countering such ideas, then you are 100% correct.

#8 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 03:41 PM | Reply

"it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it"

This would be from a former legislator talking about his former colleagues.

IOW, folks who sit at the adult's table.

But it's been declared that silence prohibits you from sitting there.

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-30 03:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Barney figured it out that moderate democrats are moderate because their base is moderate as well?

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-30 03:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires.

Unfortunately democratic voters have realized the Democratic Party is more interested in maintaining the status quo than fighting for Americans.

Wall Street and corporate America doing well means jack shit to minimum wage workers or people unable to find work that pays them a living wage.

This is what's costing democrats voters.

Billionaires own both parties and voters are looking for an alternative.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.
He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires.
Unfortunately democratic voters have realized the Democratic Party is more interested in maintaining the status quo than fighting for Americans.
Wall Street and corporate America doing well means jack shit to minimum wage workers or people unable to find work that pays them a living wage.
This is what's costing democrats voters.

Billionaires own both parties and voters are looking for an alternative.

Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM | Reply

Bears repeating in triplicate spades.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-04-30 05:04 PM | Reply

#12 Clown actually tries to twist Barney Frank's words into something they're not (and shame on you, Ms. Laura, for failing to recognize this)...

When Barney Frank said "For a lot of my colleagues, the argument has been, well, we don't support defund the police or open borders, and we don't say we do,'" Frank said. "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it."

Nothing in there about the DNC.

Therefore, that has absolutely nothing to do with "He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out..."

That's just...


'Tis almost like you (and Ms. Laura) never bothered to read the actual article.

#13 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Clown actually tries to twist Barney Frank's words into something they're not

Well, don't keep us waiting, what does Mr Frank mean when he says, progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

What exactly is this "agenda that's beyond what's politically acceptable"?

You know what's interesting is the lack of voices saying, "Republicans have embrace an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

we don't support defund the police or open borders

Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda.

Democrats never suggested to defund the police. The argument was the bloated budget given to law enforcement agencies was being spent on tanks and weapons of mass destruction, when instead some of the money could be used differently to benefit society and prevent scenarios where the police would be necessary.

As far as open borders, better hurry up and start building Trump's wall!

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM | Reply

"...what does Mr Frank mean when he says, progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

Get back to me when you understand ...

The Overton Window and,

Powell Memorandum to the United States Chamber of Commerce

Understand those, Clown, and you will understand what Barney Frank was saying when he said "progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

Gosh.

beyond what's politically acceptable = it turns voters off.

Is that what you're advocating, Clown?

Shoving down the throats of American voters an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable

Now that's a winning argument all across America. Right? /s

#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM | Reply

#14 Gosh. After claiming Barney Frank meant something he didn't really mean (in Clown's #11, seconded (stupidly) by Ms. Laura)...

...now you're claiming that Barney Frank is "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Which is it, Clown?

#16 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:03 PM | Reply

Jesus Christ.

Just say you haven't a clue and save us both the time of reading your nonsense.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:03 PM | Reply

When are you going to donate to Trump's wall?

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:03 PM | Reply

#18 Why are you defending a policy that turns off many Americans (open borders), Clown?

#19 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:05 PM | Reply

I actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said.

Did you?

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:07 PM | Reply

#17 Just say you haven't a clue and save us both the time of reading your nonsense, Clown.

After claiming Barney Frank meant something he didn't really mean (in your #11, seconded (stupidly) by Ms. Laura)...

...now you're claiming that Barney Frank is "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Which is it, Clown?

#21 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:07 PM | Reply

Why are you defending a policy that turns off many Americans (open borders), Clown?

Why aren't you at the border, building a wall, Friend?

If you're unable to, at least donate to Trump's campaign so he can build the wall he promised.

Open Borders are destroying America!

Chop chop!

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:09 PM | Reply

After claiming Barney Frank meant something he didn't really mean

Here's your second opportunity to tell us all what Poor Old Barney Frank meant.

Let's see what happens.

I bet you post a lot of nonsense.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:11 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, you make a 180 turn and then claim that Barney Frank...
"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#24 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:17 PM | Reply

You yet again squander your opportunity to tell us what you think Barney Frank meant.

You have however displayed an absolutely abysmal lack of comprehension of what you're reading.

Perhaps more HTML?

Have you meat SHRIMPdick? He seems more like an appropriate person for you to converse with.

You guys can destroy an entire thread with your posts.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:26 PM | Reply


Wall Street and corporate America doing well means jack shit to minimum wage workers or people unable to find work that pays them a living wage.
This is what's costing democrats voters.

You still haven't made the connection of 9Million new unskilled labor immigrants would have on min wage workers.


When are you going to donate to Trump's wall?
#18 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Classic Clown, anything opposed to what Biden did to the US is having to literally participate in building Trumps wall.

Truly lives up to his alias.

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-30 07:26 PM | Reply

9Million new unskilled labor immigrants

But enough about you.

Classic Clown, always repeating Trump's words!

Trump was gonna have that wall up his first term.

Perhaps if you had donated more ...

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:30 PM | Reply

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#28 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2026-04-30 07:30 PM | Reply

... The former Massachusetts lawmaker says progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable." ...

Yeah. And?

The progressives of the Democratic party are not the Democratic Party.

What else he got?

#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 07:34 PM | Reply

Barney Frank, "Progressives are destroying America! Now excuse me, I have plans with my husband later."

Mr Frank should be grateful for when progressives fought for marriage equality so he could marry the man he loves.

The Republican Party doesn't represent America.

It represents a handful of billionaires who are controlling our country.

Democrats trying to be moderate republicans isn't the solution.

As the Republicans get more extreme, the solution isn't to keep trying to meet them half way.

Wake up.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:36 PM | Reply

-The progressives of the Democratic party are not the Democratic Party.

do you think it's possible many progressives believe there are more actual similar progressives than there really are?

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-30 07:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#22 As expected...


Your sense of political insight is enough for a person to give up all hope for the Democratic Party and any hope for progressive progress.

It has absolutely nothing to do with A_Friend's opinion on open borders, closed borders, wall/no wall.

If you had any sense of political insight you would understand that these three (3) basic political facts in America in 2026:

  1. America is a two-party political system - the Democratic Party and the Republican Party

  2. American politics is a zero-sum game: one side loses when the other side wins

  3. Americans of voting age have different motivations for voting how they do - "All politics is local" as Tip O'Neil said. You force down the throats of Americans of voting age in a particular area can be political gold ... or political poison
Here's a dime, buy a clue, Clown ...

Here's a dime, buy a clue

Save your Los Angelas politics for LA and California. But stop trying to shove down the throats of every single American voter your sense of "politics."

You're ensuring a Democratic Party wilderness for decades to come.

You're welcome.

#32 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:37 PM | Reply

#25 In a sense of impending humiliation, Clown actually admits to being illiterate.

As anyone can easily see, I did respond in both my #13 and in my #15, Clown.

It is not my problem that you can neither read nor at least acknowledge your illiteracy.

But what's fun is that everyone else here can see that I responded.

You're welcome, Clown.

#33 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:44 PM | Reply

"The progressives of the Democratic party are not the Democratic Party."
- Lamplighter

"I use to be a Republican."
- Also Lamplighter

What would the Democratic Party be without Progressives?

Just another version of the Republican Party.

Conservatives broke the Republican Party and made Trump possible.

Trump broke America.

If Louisiana can cancel an election, all states can.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:49 PM | Reply

You're welcome.
#32 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

You made an entire post about me rather than simply telling me what you believe Mr Frank means.

Do you see how this looks?

Like you're crazy.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:51 PM | Reply

#35 You made an entire post without bothering to read what I wrote about what Mr. Frank means (belief not necessary:

#12 Clown actually tries to twist Barney Frank's words into something they're not (and shame on you, Ms. Laura, for failing to recognize this)...
When Barney Frank said "For a lot of my colleagues, the argument has been, well, we don't support defund the police or open borders, and we don't say we do,'" Frank said. "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it."
Nothing in there about the DNC.
Therefore, that has absolutely nothing to do with "He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out..."
#13 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:34 PM
...what does Mr Frank mean when he says, progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Get back to me when you understand ...
The Overton Window and,
Powell Memorandum to the United States Chamber of Commerce
Understand those, Clown, and you will understand what Barney Frank was saying when he said "progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Gosh.
beyond what's politically acceptable = it turns voters off.
Is that what you're advocating, Clown?
Shoving down the throats of American voters an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable
Now that's a winning argument all across America. Right? /s
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM
Your next humiliation, Clown?

#36 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:56 PM | Reply

You're welcome, Clown.
#33 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

All the HTML in the world can't hide the fact you can't answer my question.

If Barney Frank's point isn't that democrats should vote for the candidate on the ballot regardless, then what is it?

Here's yet another chance for you to avoid answering a straight forward question and post more nonsense.

Have at it.

You trolls are all the same.

You're more like SHRIMPdick than I imagined.

SHRIMPdick with HTML.

All spam, no substance.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 07:56 PM | Reply

#35 You made an entire post without bothering to read what I wrote about what Mr. Frank means (belief not necessary:

#12 Clown actually tries to twist Barney Frank's words into something they're not (and shame on you, Ms. Laura, for failing to recognize this)...
When Barney Frank said "For a lot of my colleagues, the argument has been, well, we don't support defund the police or open borders, and we don't say we do,'" Frank said. "But my point is, no, it's not enough ... to be silent. We have to explicitly repudiate it."
Nothing in there about the DNC.
Therefore, that has absolutely nothing to do with "He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out..."
#13 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:34 PM
...what does Mr Frank mean when he says, progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Get back to me when you understand ...
The Overton Window and,
Powell Memorandum to the United States Chamber of Commerce
Understand those, Clown, and you will understand what Barney Frank was saying when he said "progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Gosh.
beyond what's politically acceptable = it turns voters off.
Is that what you're advocating, Clown?
Shoving down the throats of American voters an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable
Now that's a winning argument all across America. Right? /s
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM
Your next humiliation, Clown?

#38 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:57 PM | Reply

...what does Mr Frank mean when he says, progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Get back to me when you understand ...
The Overton Window and,
Powell Memorandum to the United States Chamber of Commerce
Understand those, Clown, and you will understand what Barney Frank was saying when he said "progressives in his party have "embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."
Gosh.
beyond what's politically acceptable = it turns voters off.
Is that what you're advocating, Clown?
Shoving down the throats of American voters an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable
Now that's a winning argument all across America. Right? /s
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM
Your next humiliation, Clown?

#39 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:57 PM | Reply

beyond what's politically acceptable = it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM
Your next humiliation, Clown?

#40 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:58 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, you make a 180 turn and then claim that Barney Frank...
"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#41 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 07:59 PM | Reply

#36 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

I get it.

You don't know what Barney Frank meant.

So you're just reposting his comment from the article.

The DNC should have never nominated Hillary Clinton. She was destined for failure and everything since then has been on them.

They gave us Trump, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, ACB,

Then in their brilliance with Harris, they gave us Vance, Bondi, Noem, Kashyap, ICE attacking America, a war with Iran, complete obliteration of our media, and coming soon, a civil war.

Bravo.

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:03 PM | Reply

Your next humiliation, Clown?
#38 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

I feel like if you just keep spamming this thread like an absolute lunatic I'll feel super humiliated.

Just, devastating.

How did you ever figure out such a brilliant strategy?

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:05 PM | Reply

100% oops:

"beyond what's politically acceptable" = it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at
2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#44 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:07 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#45 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:07 PM | Reply

Oh man!

That fixed it.

Thank goodness.

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:07 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#47 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:08 PM | Reply

So, which is it, Clown?
Your turn.
#45 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

What were my options again?

Humiliation?

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:08 PM | Reply

Teehee hahahahaha that's hilarious and stuff.

#49 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-04-30 08:10 PM | Reply

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

And thanks, Ms. Laura.

I used to have the utmost respect for you.

#50 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:20 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#51 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:22 PM | Reply

#50 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Are you AI?

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:23 PM | Reply

#52 As much as you are, Clown. But I understand your desire to retreat to the coward's "defense."

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#53 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:24 PM | Reply

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#54 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:25 PM | Reply

A_FRIEND,

Your posts are empty, devoid of thought.

It's almost like you're cycling through your programming.

Can you generate original ideas?

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:25 PM | Reply

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#56 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:26 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#57 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:26 PM | Reply

@#50 ... Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison ...

Deciding the difference between "political reality" and "political poison" depends upon the voters the Democrats are addressing.

For example. look at TX Rep Talarico. The positions and strategies he is espousing in his race for the Senate slot would have been political poison for the progressive Democrats in the past.

But those positions and strategies seem to be working for him.

#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 08:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Respond to these, Clown.

Otherwise, copy/paste is my friend.

#59 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:27 PM | Reply

#58 In a light of phenomenal brightness, Lamplighter says, "Deciding the difference between "political reality" and "political poison" depends upon the voters the Democrats are addressing."

Thank you.

Thank you.

The audience for winning votes consists of the candidate's constituents.

Again, The audience for winning votes consists of the candidate's constituents.

That's why these future faces of the Democratic Party give me real reason for hope. They are progressives who speak the language that Democrats should be speaking throughout the mid-West.

Absurdity of the so-called "progressives," notwithstanding.

#60 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:34 PM | Reply

Respond to these, Clown.

Why? You clearly don't understand what Barney Frank means.

You've already proven it countless times.

It's why you spam HTML and posts no one will ever read.

It's why I generally avoid you.

You're a troll, you're not interesting, and you're unable to post something worth responding to.

#61 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:34 PM | Reply

Looks like A_Friend has Clownhack over the proverbial barrel.

#62 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-30 08:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1


You clearly don't understand what Barney Frank means.
You've already proven it countless times.

You haven't proven you understand what he means. Clearly he's "attacking" the extremist left wing of the party, which you are part of.

#63 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-04-30 08:35 PM | Reply

#61 100% oops ...

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#64 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:36 PM | Reply

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#65 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:36 PM | Reply

@#65

Still grinding away?

Why?

#66 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 08:47 PM | Reply

#66 Because I can...

#67 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:48 PM | Reply

#66 Because I can...

#68 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:48 PM | Reply

#69

#66 Because I can...

#69 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:48 PM | Reply

#66 Oh, and Clown wasn't my audience.

Too insignificant. :-)

#70 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:50 PM | Reply

Clearly he's "attacking" the extremist left wing of the party, which you are part of.
#63 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

This is more of a discussion than A_Friend has managed all thread.

Bravo!

He's attacking us by saying what? More democrats should speak up for moderates?

Let's ignore the fact speaking up isn't a democratic strong suit.

We got Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer and most of democrats in congress already doing that.

What he really means is he wants Mamdani and Bernie and AOC and Crockett and Talarico ... to shut up.

Barney Frank grew up in a different America.

You don't fight Trump with a bunch of timid losers begging for corporate donations and AIPAC support.

Biden did that.

Biden thought he was living in 1980s America and bipartisanship was possible with people screaming "Thank you Brandon!" at him.

Conservatives broke the Republican Party.

The only reason people vote for democrats is because they don't want to vote for republicans.

The only outliers are progressives like Bernie, AOC, Mamdani, Talarico, Crockett ...

Figure it out.

Or don't.

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:56 PM | Reply

"I'm a Republican who made Trump possible. But now I'm a democrat and progressives aren't."
-Lamplighter

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:58 PM | Reply

"He's attacking us by saying what? More democrats should speak up for moderates?"

Nope.

Not saying that at all, you fool.

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#73 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:58 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#74 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:58 PM | Reply

@#67-70

My question becomes ...

Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?

Both the Country and the Democratic Party have moved on past the time he served the people of Massachusetts in Congress.

imo, I think that it is A Good Thing that the Democratic Party seems to be evolving to continue to properly represent the voters they serve.



#75 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 08:58 PM | Reply

#72 And Clown does everything he/she/they/it can to piss off fellow allies.

#76 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 08:59 PM | Reply

Clown wasn't my audience.
#70 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

You're literally begging for my attention.

Clean yourself up.

You still haven't explained what point you think Frank is making.

Why is he repeating Republican propaganda from 2020?

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 08:59 PM | Reply

Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?

Boomers losing their grip on reality still believe it's the 1980s.

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:01 PM | Reply

#75 Lamp asks, "Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?"


Perhaps we can all learn from experience/expertise/historical acknowledgement ... ?

#79 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:04 PM | Reply

#75 Lamp asks, "Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?"


Perhaps we can all learn from experience/expertise/historical acknowledgement ... ?

#80 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:05 PM | Reply

#75 Lamp asks, "Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?"


Perhaps we can all learn from experience/expertise/historical acknowledgement ... ?

#81 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:07 PM | Reply

#75 Lamp asks, "Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?"


Perhaps we can all learn from experience/expertise/historical acknowledgement ... ?

#82 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:09 PM | Reply

#75 Lamp asks, "Why bring up fmr Rep Barney Frank's opinion now?"


Perhaps we can all learn from experience/expertise/historical acknowledgement ... ?

#83 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:11 PM | Reply

Thanks for sharing all those progressives.

Really helped prove to Lamplighter that Progressive Democrats are the heart of the Democratic Party. Progressivism was what got real change accomplished in America.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:14 PM | Reply

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

#85 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:16 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#86 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:16 PM | Reply

Your turn.
#86 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Again?

Okay.

What do you think Barney Frank means?

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:20 PM | Reply

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damns Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#88 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:20 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn.

#89 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:21 PM | Reply

I'm not sure if I mentioned this.

But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread.

I'm sure it's fully humiliating.

But.

I'm looking for original thought from you and haven't detected any.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:26 PM | Reply

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying f*ck what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#91 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:29 PM | Reply

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

#92 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:29 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#93 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:30 PM | Reply

Curious...

Actually claim "But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...and than actually say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown?

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Care to thread that needle, Clown?

#94 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:33 PM | Reply

Still no thought.

You AI programs are good.

But I'm sure you'll do better in the future.

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:34 PM | Reply

Curious...

You actually claim that you are "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...but then you say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown ? ? ? ?

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Care to thread that needle, Clown?

#96 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:36 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, I see you're impotent in responding to this ...

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying f*ck what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#97 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:36 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, I see you're impotent in responding to this ...

Curious...

Actually claim "But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...and than actually say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown.

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Chare to thread that needle, Clown?

#98 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:37 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, I see you're impotent in responding to this ...

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#99 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:37 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, I see you're impotent in responding to this ...

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#100 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:38 PM | Reply

My turn?

This is great. I post anything and you generate the same content no one is reading.

It's brilliant.

#101 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:46 PM | Reply

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying f*ck what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#102 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:46 PM | Reply

#101 You're not my audience.

But thank you nonetheless, Clown.

Now, meanwhile ...

#103 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:47 PM | Reply

Curious...

Clown actually claims "But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...and that you actually say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown.

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Care to thread that needle, Clown?

#104 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:48 PM | Reply

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#105 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:48 PM | Reply

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying f*ck what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#106 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:49 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#107 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:49 PM | Reply

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...
#102 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

Humiliate me more.

Spam a dozen more posts no one will read.

I deserve it.

#108 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 09:51 PM | Reply

#108 Oh? Okay?

Curious...

Clown actually claims "But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...and that you actually say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown.

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Care to thread that needle, Clown?

#109 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:57 PM | Reply

#108 Oh? Okay?

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying f*ck what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#110 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:57 PM | Reply

#108 Oh? Okay?

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#111 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:58 PM | Reply

#108 Oh? Okay?

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#112 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 09:58 PM | Reply

@#34 ... The progressives of the Democratic party are not the Democratic Party."
- Lamplighter

"I use to be a Republican."
- Also Lamplighter

What would the Democratic Party be without Progressives? ...

Oh, I agree.

Unlike the current GOP, the Democratic Party is not just a one issue-focused aggregation. it is the summation of many varied opinions and views.

I applaud the Democratic Party for its espousing of various views.

I just have a concern when the term "Progressives" is used to describe the Democratic Party.

imo, Progressive are just a part of the Democratic Party, not the whole party.

#113 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 10:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Progressive are just a part of the Democratic Party, not the whole party

And that's the problem.

Democrats were strongest when they were progressives. FDR democrats, the ones who fought for the new deal and the democrats born from them that formed unions and fought for civil rights, equal rights and equal representation ... they were all progressives.

Abandoning progressivism because republicans turned it into a dirty word is where democrats went wrong. Republicans demonized Jimmy Carter and progressivists and Clinton sold the party to the corporate class.

This nation needs progressive leadership and policies if we're to keep up with the rest of the world.

#114 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 10:41 PM | Reply

Interesting how ...

c0ri0lanus
speaksoftly
ClownShack
...are conspicuously absent from this thread... except to condemn the Democratic Party.

But make a thread about "...the weaknesses and failures of the Democratic Party." (h/t: Clown)

And there's no end of Pollyannas

c0ri0lanus
speaksoftly
ClownShack
I wish I was wrong...

#115 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:43 PM | Reply

#114 Clown actually says, "This nation needs progressive leadership and policies..."

Then do the work necessary to elect progressive leadership...

... instead of trashing and damning the only alternative to Trump and the Republican Party, Clown, on a platform where you might be able to stroke your political penis...

... but will have zero effect.

#116 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:47 PM | Reply

Interesting how lamplighter and I can actually have a discussion like adults while you're still spamming your C&Ps like an unhinged crazy person.

Did you skip your meds today?

Keep scrapbooking these clever comments of yours.

Everyone is impressed.

Especially those voices in your head.

#117 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 10:50 PM | Reply

Then do the work necessary to elect progressive leadership...

We are.

#118 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 10:50 PM | Reply

Interesting how ...

c0ri0lanus
speaksoftly
ClownShack
...are conspicuously absent from this thread.

But make a thread about "...the weaknesses and failures of the Democratic Party." (h/t: Clown)

And there's no end of Pollyannas

c0ri0lanus
speaksoftly
ClownShack
I wish I was wrong...

#119 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:50 PM | Reply

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#120 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:51 PM | Reply

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#121 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:51 PM | Reply

You know, Clown, it is fun watching you ...


And there's zero doubt that it is just way too easy to push your buttons ...


As evidenced by your inability to control your impulses ...

... just like Trump.

Sh*t ... that was easy!

Postscript: Kiss our friends in the artistic community in West Hollywood, Clown.

Love you.

#122 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 10:55 PM | Reply

Although I am not very well-versed in these types of politics, I do believe that Barney Frank has a thinly veiled concern for the end of American political support for Israel. I believe that is the main reason why he supports Janet Mills over Platner.

Truly, for Frank (who is Jewish and has a history of deep support by pro-Israelis) and many other senior members of the political spectrum, refusing to support Israel and to be openly critical of its current actions and behaviors after nearly 50 years of overwhelming support is "embracing an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable."

#123 | Posted by Expectingreign at 2026-04-30 10:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#114 ... Democrats were strongest when they were progressives ...

I agree.

But the emphasis nowadays is upon the word "were."


The electorate has moved on.

Will the Democrats also move on?

#124 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 10:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#123 There's something most interesting about a post that begins with, Although I am not very well-versed in these types of politics...." ...

... that then proceeds to comment on those types of politics, inspite of the fact of being, self-proclaimed, "I am not very well-versed in these types of politics..."

Interesting, indeed.

#125 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:00 PM | Reply


The electorate has moved on.

Will the Democrats also move on?

Based on the popularity of progressive candidates like Mamdani, Talarico, and Crockett, and the continued enthusiasm for Bernie and AOC, I'm not too sure where you believe you see democrats having moved on.

If anything, I see democrats distancing themselves from billionaires and AIPAC.

#126 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 11:32 PM | Reply

Interesting, indeed.
#125 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND

You're a bore.

Go update your programming.

#127 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 11:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#127 Yet, you keep responding to me, Clown. Why is that?

Curious...

Clown actually claims "But I'm not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread."

...and that you actually say that you're looking for "...original thought from you and haven't detected any."

Oh, how is that, Clown.

That is, if you're "...not reading any of the spam you have posted this entire thread." ? ? ? ?

Care to thread that needle, Clown?

#128 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:34 PM | Reply

#127 Yet, you keep responding to me, Clown. Why is that?

WTF do you care what I think Barney Frank meant when he said that he doesn't advocate that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable." ? ? ? ?

Clown, you don't give a flying f*ck what I think Barney Frank meant when he clearly said that he cautions Democrats from advocating that which is, and I quote, "beyond what's politically acceptable." That which is political poison.

But, knock yourself out, Clown.

Another one of your humiliations, incoming ...

#129 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:34 PM | Reply

#127 Yet, you keep responding to me, Clown. Why is that?

Barney Frank warns Democrats to stay away from that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable."

Apparently, those who seek the demise of the Democratic Party actually damn Barney Frank with the comment, "Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

Casting aside the political reality that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison

Clownshack actually thinks that that which is "beyond what's politically acceptable" = that which is political poison... but let's shove it down the throats of every ... single ... voter in America so we can demonstrate how much we don't care about you.

it turns voters off.
#15 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 06:59 PM

#130 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:35 PM | Reply

#127 Yet, you keep responding to me, Clown. Why is that?

#20 You just said, Clown, that you "...actually read the article and understood what Barney Frank said..."

Oh, you also said:

"What Barney Frank is saying isn't anything new.

"He's advocating for progressives to vote for the Democratic nominee available instead of the candidate the DNC shut out because they're scaring the billionaires. ...This is what's costing democrats voters."

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 05:02 PM

But then, curiously, in less than 145 minutes you make a 180 turn...

...and then claim that Barney Frank...

"Poor old man Frank, blindly repeating Republican propaganda."

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-30 06:46 PM

So, which is it, Clown?

Your turn, Clown.

#131 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:36 PM | Reply

You know, Clown, it is fun watching you ...


And there's zero doubt that it is just way too easy to push your buttons ...


As evidenced by your inability to control your impulses ...

... just like Trump.

Sh*t ... that was easy!

Postscript: Kiss our friends in the artistic community in West Hollywood, Clown.

Love you.

#132 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:37 PM | Reply

"And there's no end of Pollyannas
c0ri0lanus
speaksoftly
ClownShack"

Pollyanna? Why not use "Puritopian"? ;-)

Clown was the first guy that welcomed you back to this place back in early February and now you shitpost your OH logorrhea and dump on him like a complete fucking jackass. Good job, FRIEND!

#133 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-04-30 11:42 PM | Reply

"Clown was the first guy that welcomed you back to this place back in early February..."

Which makes his betrayal that much more egregious.

#134 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:44 PM | Reply

#133 And you never responded to my post.

Noted.

#135 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:45 PM | Reply

@#135

OK, I have to ask at this point, why is your alias trolling this evening?

While I do appreciate the ad revenue its comments bring to RCade, I still wonder why the sudden change of behavior of your alias, i.e., from thoughtful comments to apparent trolling?


What changed to bring on this apparent new behavior?


#136 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-30 11:51 PM | Reply

Democrats controlled the House for 40 years. Why? They were the party of the working class. They didn't need identity politics, DEI, open borders or any of that. They were popular and had lots of power because they represented workers. If they can find a way to get back to that they'd be able to relegate the GOP into the weeds.

#137 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-04-30 11:54 PM | Reply

#136 Lamp asks, "...why is your alias trolling this evening?"

To which I would respond ...

WTF aren't you taking the rightwingers/internecine warriors to task, Lamp?

"What changed to bring on this apparent new behavior?"

"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention"



#138 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:58 PM | Reply

"Which makes his betrayal that much more egregious"

Aw, his "betrayal" has got you worked up into a state of SPAMICIDE with the obligatory overused GIF files. Almost like CENSORED on crack. It's all about you, isn't it FRIEND?

You wanna follow me around, dog? Multiple fire hydrant pissings like you do when you follow Coriolanus and ClownShack? Have at it. After all, DOG is a man's best FRIEND, A FRIEND could be man's best dog and I still like to herd NERFS every once in a while.

#139 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-04-30 11:59 PM | Reply

#137 BIOYA, bell boi.

No one wants your Jonathan Turley "take."

It is not welcomed here.

#140 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-30 11:59 PM | Reply

# 139 Thanks for proving my point, nerf.

And still noted that you ran away from my question.

#141 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:01 AM | Reply

" Based on the popularity of progressive candidates like Mamdani, Talarico, and Crockett, and the continued enthusiasm for Bernie and AOC, I'm not too sure where you believe you see democrats having moved on."

Madmani ran against a corrupt and hated has-been. Crocket is about to be unemployed. Talarico hasn't even won anything and is likely Beto 2.0. AOC got elected in a very blue district. What none of these people have is broad national appeal, especially with the middle. All of which is the point of this thread.

#142 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-05-01 12:02 AM | Reply

" It is not welcomed here.

#140 | POSTED BY A_FRIEND AT 2026-04-30 11:59 PM | FLAG: "

IDGAF.

Unless Rcade tells me to stop posting I I will say whatever the fuck I want.

#143 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-05-01 12:03 AM | Reply

#142 So long as there are people like NerfHerder, your "contributions" aren't necessary, bell boi.

NerfHerder, et. al., will do the heavy lifting by condemning those people who aren't pure, paving the way for Republicans to use such condemnation as fodder for their ad campaigns.

#144 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:06 AM | Reply

#143 Didn't Rcade already do that to a previous moniker of yours, bell boi?

#145 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:07 AM | Reply

" I believe that is the main reason why he supports Janet Mills over Platner"

He probably doesn't like Platner's Nazi tattoo. Regardless, it doesn't matter. Nt sure if you heard, Mills suspended her campaign.

#146 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-05-01 12:12 AM | Reply

#143 Didn't Rcade already do that to a previous moniker of yours, bell boi?

#147 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:13 AM | Reply

Aww, my name is mentioned three times within the first five minutes after adopting my new pet. He's such a quick learner.

More GIF files of dimes and spoiled Asian kids rolling around on the ground, dog!

#148 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-01 12:15 AM | Reply

#148 And still noted that you ran away from my question.

#149 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:16 AM | Reply

Nerfherder is scruffy looking.

#150 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-05-01 12:18 AM | Reply

#148 History, Stephen said, is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake

... and, yet, you sleep through it.

#151 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:19 AM | Reply

#143 Didn't Rcade already do that to a previous moniker of yours, bell boi?

#152 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-01 12:21 AM | Reply

@#152

Still grinding away on this thread.

Why?

#153 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-05-01 12:44 AM | Reply

"Barney Frank embarks on a final act: Taking on the left enemies of AIPAC"

#154 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-01 12:46 AM | Reply

@#154

Yeah, that seems to be a relevant observation on this thread.

Calling up, and evoking, an old (ancient?) Democratic figure as someone who should be obeyed in the current world.



#155 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-05-01 12:53 AM | Reply

Madmani ran against a corrupt and hated has-been.

Mamdani ran against the GOP and the DNC and Bloomberg and Israel and still won NYC and has been a very successful mayor for the city so far.

Crocket is about to be unemployed.

Weird way to gloss over Texas Republicans unilaterally gerrymandering the state on Trump's behest.

Talarico hasn't even won anything and is likely Beto 2.0.

Talarico is nothing like Beto. You sound stupid.

AOC got elected in a very blue district.

You've hated AOC since you heard of her because she reminds you of everything your not. Accomplished, intelligent, ambitious.

Regardless of your constant need to diminish her, she's a force in the party and in America.

What none of these people have is broad national appeal, especially with the middle.

Your understand of what the middle wants is about as crystal clear as your understanding of Sanskrit. Which is, absolutely none existent.

All of which is the point of this thread.
#142 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

This thread is about a man who once considered himself progressive no longer finding himself in agreement with today's progressive society.

The world has changed.

Republicans and Trump broke America.

Democrats don't stand for anything when it comes to legislation.

They're paralyzed. Unable to betray their corporate masters.

#156 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-01 01:20 AM | Reply

@#156 ... The world has changed. ...

Bingo!

Trying to use an ancient Democratic figure as a pillar of the current Democrats is, at best, quite lame.

#157 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-05-01 01:28 AM | Reply

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