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Thursday, February 22, 2024

Mike Elgan: If you force employees to commute and work in an office every day, you can expect to lose your best employees.

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... We all know by now that many business leaders want their employees to work in the office instead of at home. But most don't understand why.

And we know that many employees want to work from home instead of the office. And most don't understand why, either.

As a result, we have a standoff at many companies where corporate leadership is imposing return-to-office (RTO) mandates, and employees are resisting. ...


Good oped, worth a read if your curious about this topic...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-21 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In a recent survey, more than a third (38%) of employees believe it's a "red flag" to complain about RTO policies. And they're right: More than half of managers (56%) agree. [Employers will] find out they were unhappy when they quit and go to work for [the employer's] more flexible competitor. The result: a slow bleeding of high-performing employees, millennials and women.

Nail on the head.

#2 | Posted by censored at 2024-02-21 12:01 PM | Reply

"Janitors have to commute to work so engineers should too!"
-Elon musk, pretending to be a man of the people

#3 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-02-22 07:17 PM | Reply

Good article but the author misses the actual reason why the RTO. Mostly it's big businesses/high profit-low margin companies who are mandating it. And that's because they get tax breaks for every butt in a seat. If you've never seen how much money is saved in taxes that subsidize other parts of a business, you would be incredibly shocked. I work with a lot of startups and help them build out their program and not one of them that began after 2015 has a work from office mandate. And that's because they never had an office in the first place (many of them) and are making lots of profit without it. But the big companies depend on those tax breaks.

And also consider offshoring saves money. This is part of the argument because I just saw a week or two ago a job offer that literally said at the top that differentiated them and said workers on shore must live near an office location but workers in India (literally named India) were excluded. So companies are OK with someone working 8000 miles away in who knows what kind of office environment but someone living in the next state from them is excluded. That's because offshoring already saves them gobs of money.

That being said, there is a problem with WFH and that is the government is not getting the income they usually get. That is a very real problem because the roads and everything else to those buildings are used for a lot more than just those buildings, so losing money to spend on infrastructure is a very real issue. My problem is when they try to justify RTO with nonsense excuses, like the ones mentioned in this article.

#4 | Posted by humtake at 2024-02-23 11:52 AM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

HUMTAKE gets no respect in this world and, I suspect, none in the next.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2024-02-23 11:59 AM | Reply

@#4 ... And that's because they get tax breaks for every butt in a seat. ...

What sort of tax breaks?

... That being said, there is a problem with WFH and that is the government is not getting the income they usually get. ...

How so? A couple sentences prior, you mentioned that there are tax breaks (i.e., less money for government) for those who work in the office, now you are saying that the government loses money because of WFH. Which is it?


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 01:02 PM | Reply

Related...

Staff say Dell's return to office mandate is a stealth layoff, especially for women
www.theregister.com

... Dell's "return to office" mandate has left employees confused about which offices they can use and the future of their jobs " and concerned the initiative is a stealth layoff program that will disproportionately harm women at the IT giant.

As El Reg broke this month, Dell told employees they each needed to choose between resuming a hybrid work schedule " working from a corporate office part of the time -- or continue working remotely. Those who chose to remain as remote workers were effectively making a career-limiting decision.

The implications of choosing to work remotely, we're told, are: "1) no funding for team onsite meetings, even if a large portion of the team is flying in for the meeting from other Dell locations; 2) no career advancement; 3) no career movements; and 4) remote status will be considered when planning or organization changes -- AKA workforce reductions."

Another employee said: "Choosing to be remote does indeed put career advancement at a standstill. If you choose to accept a promotion after going remote, that comes with the requirement of being in office 39 days out of the quarter" and you have to reclassify yourself as hybrid. The employee continued: "Even if you choose to make a lateral career move, the same expectation applies. In-role promotions are possible, but rare enough to not be a realistic option."
In the dark

Our first source told us that the new policy is ambiguous. It states that all employees must be either hybrid or remote and will have a one-time chance in March to choose their preference. But Dell is yet to provide a definitive list of approved office sites. ...




#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 04:31 PM | Reply

good read.

A solid work from home culture represents an opportunity for companies who manage that well to recruit and retain better workers and develop a competitive edge with better people.

But....it comes with some pain. Those same companies will look to upgrade their staff because they can get the better workers.....and that means lower performing folks will have to go in order to make room for them.

It's like a roster with a maximum number of players allowed.

And I wonder if some of these RTO mandates are simply a tool to get rid of people they want to get rid of anyway.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2024-02-23 04:43 PM | Reply

The employees that chose to go to the office get the FaceTime that can lead to higher change of promotions over the unseen.

#9 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-02-23 06:22 PM | Reply

@#9 ... The employees that chose to go to the office get the FaceTime that can lead to higher change of promotions over the unseen. ...

Yes, but that FaceTime also gives them better mentoring from others in the office.

That mentoring is one aspect of WFH that I see is a problem.

As a manager I felt one of the things I had to do was mentor and grow employees, even those who were not in my department. As a result, I often was asked into conversations in the coffee room by people not in my department and whom I had only met once or twice previously.

Until that type of mentoring can be transferred to WFH, I see a problem with companies developing talent from within, and having to recruit from the outside.

I am not against WFH, per se (geesh, I was working from home back in the 70's, but at 300bps [not a typo, 300bps]...), but how can WFH rovide some of the employee benefits that are present in RTO?




#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 06:35 PM | Reply

now you are saying that the government loses money because of WFH

Could be both. Companies negotiate tax write-offs on offices based on the assumption that the employees filling them will support nearby businesses and pay state and local taxes.

Its losing money from all the consumption when working in the office, SFO has this issue. Many many little bars and restaurants have gone under, or are struggling because the offices are empty.

Eventually, the offices will be sold off for cheaper than purchased, lowering property taxes.

#11 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-23 07:25 PM | Reply

As a manager I felt one of the things I had to do was mentor and grow employees,

I really don't believe you were.

For instance:

Developer A comes in and changes some code and there is a minor improvement in the product but still has some bugs.
Developer A leaves the company.
Developer B comes in and undoes most every change A made, makes other changes, and product is much less stable, are much much much worse.

Who is at fault?

#12 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-02-23 07:27 PM | Reply

@#12 ... I really don't believe you were. ...

And, that concerns me... why?

... Who is at fault? ...

The development process that allowed that to occur.


I mean really. Are you an amateur here?


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-02-23 07:37 PM | Reply

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