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Claim: On Aug. 15, 2017, then-President Donald Trump called neo-Nazis and white supremacists who attended the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, "very fine people." Rating: FALSE

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"While Trump did say that there were very fine people on both sides,' he also specifically noted that he was not talking about neo-Nazis and White supremacists and said they should be 'condemned totally.' Therefore, we have rated this claim 'False,'" Snopes wrote.

#1 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-06-23 10:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

The smelly------------- praised Hitler.

amp.theguardian.com

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-23 11:40 AM | Reply

specifically noted that he was not talking about neo-Nazis and White supremacists and said they should be 'condemned totally.'

After two days of intense criticism ...

On Monday, after two days of relentless criticism, Trump gave a stronger statement, saying "racism is evil" and specifically condemning white supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan, and neo-Nazis. Speaking to reporters shortly afterward, white nationalist Richard Spencer told reporters he didn't see Trump's remarks as a condemnation of his movement.

Tuesday's appearance made it even clearer that those words had been forced on the president. Throughout his campaign, he was reluctant to disavow the white nationalists who have formed a vocal segment of his supporters. Asked if he had spoken to Heyer's family in the days since her death, Trump said "we will be reaching out."

Trump also addressed swirling rumors about the status of his chief strategist, Steve Bannon, who has come in for another round of speculation this week that his job may be in danger. Trump is reportedly angry about the recent book Devil's Bargain,by the Bloomberg Businessweek writer Joshua Green, which portrays Bannon as the key reason for Trump's election victory.

www.congress.gov

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-23 11:51 AM | Reply

... but, what does fmr Pres trump really say?

Trump Goes Full Hitler by Calling Political Foes Vermin' (November 2023)
nymag.com

... Since the 2016 presidential campaign, the question of whether it's appropriate to compare Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler has come up repeatedly. Trump has used a slogan popularized by Nazi sympathizers, dined with antisemites, evoked white supremacist tropes, and demonized the press and his political foes as the "enemy of the people," to cite just a few examples of his allegedly Nazi-like behavior. Plus, days before the Capitol riot, the nation's top general, Mark Milley, reportedly warned aides that America was facing a "Reichstag moment" because Trump was preaching "the gospel of the Fhrer" with his stolen-election lies.

When people point out that this is all a little too Hitler-y for comfort, they're often told they're being hysterical. However, it's getting harder to deny that Trump is using Nazi rhetoric. Last month, Trump said undocumented immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country." In Mein Kampf, Hitler repeatedly described Jews and migrants as "poisons" to the "blood" of Germany and the Aryan race. Trump's remark generated a few headlines but largely flew under the radar as it came 37 minutes into a video interview with the obscure right-leaning website the National Pulse.

Over the weekend, Trump used some Nazi terminology in a far more high-profile setting. During a Veterans Day speech on Saturday, he told a crowd in Claremont, New Hampshire, that his political enemies are "like vermin." Both Hitler and Italy's Benito Mussolini compared their enemies to rodents during their rise to power in the 1920s and 1930s. Trump said:

Today, especially, in honor of our great veterans on Veterans Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical-left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country " that lie and steal and cheat on elections and will do anything possible. They'll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American Dream.

The real threat is not from the racial right; the real threat is from the radical left, and it's growing every day. Every single day. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader " Russia, China, North Korea " they're not going to want to play with us.


It seems clear from the video that Trump was reading from his prepared remarks, not ad-libbing: ...



#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-23 01:04 PM | Reply

"He said in the same statement he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he said should be condemned totally."

#5 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-06-23 04:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Stand back and stand by"

Sure, ------- isn't a racist --------

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-23 04:28 PM | Reply

Was this before or after ------- had dinner with a neo-nazi?

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-23 04:29 PM | Reply

here let me help you sad sack punks out here with a mass reply..

"but ...but...but ..but"... AAAAAAAH AHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAAA

SNOPES has always been the go to source for you scum sucking douche bag liars....now you're
circling your Little red wagons and doing what you always do....make S&^%@T up and deflect.

HERE ARE OTHER CASES WHERE YOU CARRIED THE WATER FOR THE DEMOCRAT BUTT KISSING " COMMITTEE TO REELECT THE PRESIDENT" MEDIA....

endorsed drinking bleach
koi pond hoax...feeding fish was a gaffe
kids in cages.....started by obama..
russia pee hoax
don't say gay -------- lie
border patrol whipping people.
covington kids.
kid in black face at football game.
russian collusion.
laptop..51 intel officers lied.
covid....bat soup from wet market

THROW IN....the murdering ex governor of NY telling you that if it weren't trump the case would have never been brought and
that adds up to....it really suck to be you tyrds today..
other words...just another day

kilroy was here.

#8 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-06-23 07:54 PM | Reply

The daughter-boning orange pedo says criticizing his white supremacist base was his biggest mistake.

thehill.com

#9 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-23 08:07 PM | Reply

#9 |

when you start with more BS why should I or anyone even read the rest of your "disinformation?"

all of you psychopathic psychotics are gonna have a stroke before this truth-letting marathon
is over. keep your health care premiums up to date.

it's been a long, cold, lonely winter
it feels like years since it's been here
Here comes the sun, and I say
It's alright

-30-

#10 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-06-23 08:33 PM | Reply

#10 The keep throwing monkey wrenches in Bidens debate training. Another talking point debunked.

#11 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-06-23 08:36 PM | Reply

The ------------ MAGAts are upset that their child-raping hero is known as a Nazi lover.

#12 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-23 08:38 PM | Reply

@11. Can someone translate that to English?

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-23 08:41 PM | Reply

This has been known for a long time. Trump says a LOT of stupid and offensive things. On this particular occasion he actually didn't. So of course the left wants to try to make it into a scandal.

You clowns are pathetic. He gives you all tons of material. Why focus in on something that is demonstrably false?

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-23 11:41 PM | Reply

Patricide Jeff will soon be claiming his child-raping hero didn't have dinner with very fine white nationalist Nick Fuentes at Mara Pedo.

www.politico.com

#15 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-23 11:54 PM | Reply

I watched him on TV after the Neo Nazi rally attendee ran over Heather Heyer, killing her, say "There were fine people on both sides".

"We looked into these claims, and found that while Trump did say there were "very fine people on both sides," meaning both the protesters and the counterprotesters, "

So he didn't say "very fine people" he said "very fine people".

Go home SNOPES, you're drunk.

#16 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-24 10:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Decide for yourself, bypass whatever snopes or anyone on the right out left says... Unedited video of Trump on Charlottesville... about 4 minutes long

youtu.be

#17 | Posted by Idependant97 at 2024-06-24 01:34 PM | Reply

Very Fine People don't walk with Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists.

If you walk with them, you support them and you are them.

So who the hell was Trump talking about then?

#18 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-06-24 01:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So who the hell was Trump talking about then?
#18 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

He was talking about the White folks marching with tiki torches chanting, "Jews will not replace us."

Seven years later seems like the appropriate time in which to revisit this. Enough people have forgotten the details and deplorable Trumping MAGAts can fight reality in the name of Trump.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-24 02:06 PM | Reply

Facts don't matter to --------, for them, it FEELS like he said it and that is enough.

#20 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-06-25 01:29 AM | Reply

Also, just wait until they fact check Biden and the -------- and their claims Trump told them to drink bleach to fight covid - another one of their great lies. After that and the nazi lie dispelled, we are back to them hating Trump due to TDS and mean tweets only.

#21 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-06-25 01:34 AM | Reply

@#20 ... Facts don't matter to --------, for them, it FEELS like he said it and that is enough. ...

Quite curious how the GOP is making a huge deal out of this one instance, when fmr Pres Trump has not eschewed the support he gets from neo-Nazis.

Trump's latest flirtation with Nazi symbolism draws criticism (May 2024)
thehill.com

... Former President Trump has once again stoked outrage for his flirtation with Nazi rhetoric, this time with a video posted to his Truth Social account that used the phrase "unified Reich." ...


#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-25 01:48 AM | Reply

"Quite curious how the GOP is making a huge deal out of this one instance, when fmr Pres Trump has not eschewed the support he gets from neo-Nazis.
#22 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

What the f are you talking about? I can get that you have a reading problem, but you can listen to the statement if that is your major problem as Trump clearly stated:

"and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally"

So, other than condemning them totally, what would Trump need to do to eschew them in your opinion?

#23 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-06-25 02:09 AM | Reply

"He was talking about the White folks marching with tiki torches chanting, "Jews will not replace us."

That's bad.

I'm just not sure it's "from the river to the sea" bad. A phrase many on the left have come to embrace.

I find it ironic that progressives call out instances like this, while ignoring that massive numbers of violent protesters calling for genocide in Israel.

Do you really care, or is it just politics and the jews are sometimes a useful pawn?

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-06-25 06:04 AM | Reply

Dumbass manatee is running scared.

#25 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-06-25 01:43 PM | Reply

"they should be condemned totally"

Unless of course they are the Proud Boys et al "far-right, neo-fascist militant organization that promotes and engages in political violence" who were his Commandos at J6.

Currently standing down and standing by for J6 2025.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-25 01:54 PM | Reply

So, other than condemning them totally, what would Trump need to do to eschew them in your opinion?

#23 | Posted by Claudio

It doesn't seem to matter what he says for public consumption, they're still standing with him and that, alone, has me voting hard for the other team.

#27 | Posted by morris at 2024-06-25 05:11 PM | Reply

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