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Ukraine will Stop Putin, Biden tells NATO in Forceful Speech
U.S. President Joe Biden pledged to forcefully defend Ukraine against Russia's invasion at the NATO summit in Washington on Tuesday ...
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So, Pres Biden appears to be in favor of democracy.
As opposed to fmr Pres Trump, who would just hand over Ukraine to his puppet-mater, Pres Putin.
#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-10 12:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
@#1
puppet-mater,
-- should be --
puppet-master,
:)
#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-10 12:51 AM | Reply
"So, Pres Biden appears to be in favor of democracy."
By banning press opposition, religious opposition, and cancelling elections? You have a funny definition of democracy.
"As opposed to fmr Pres Trump, who would just hand over Ukraine to his puppet-mater, Pres Putin. #1 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"
Biden and Obama handed Ukraine to Russia - only difference is Biden culled about 700,000 Ukrainians in the process. Under Trump - not a single square meter of land in Ukraine was taken by Russia.
But, this ignores my point in the article - was Biden doing a 'Biden' or has the US now admitted to lying about Russian casualties?
#3 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-10 02:42 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
CLAUDIO #3
FLAG: Pffffttt
#4 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-07-10 03:50 AM | Reply
"Biden and Obama handed Ukraine to Russia - only difference is Biden culled about 700,000 Ukrainians in the process. Under Trump - not a single square meter of land in Ukraine was taken by Russia."
What a vile lie cut Putin probably would kiss you on the mouth for posting it. I fear that Republican homophobia is just a cover for their secret passion for Vlad. Seems they will say anything to distort the news to his favor. Seckening!
#5 | Posted by danni at 2024-07-10 07:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
"What a vile lie #5 | POSTED BY DANNI"
What is a lie? That Putin took Ukrainian lands under BOTH Biden and Obama? No, that is 100% true. That ~700k Ukrainians are dead or injured? Nope, that is 100% true as well. That Putin didn't take a square meter of Ukrainian land under Trump? ----, looks like strike three for you.
So, please point out the lie in what I wrote above. I think this is another case of those ------- 'alternative facts' again.
#6 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-10 08:47 AM | Reply
#6 | POSTED BY CLAUDIO
Trump refused to implement sanctions passed by Congress against Russia until forced to do so? Sorry. 100% true. Trump tried to stop sanctions against Russia? Also true. Trump threatened withheld weapons for defending Ukraine against Russia unless Ukraine lied about investigating Biden? True again. Trump refused to criticize Putin and praised him repeatedly while the Republican Party echoed the Russia Love? Yep. True.
I wonder where Putin got the idea America didn't care if he invaded Ukraine?
#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-07-10 10:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Biden predicts Russia will move in' to Ukraine, but says minor incursion' may prompt discussion over consequences www.cnn.com
#8 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-10 11:58 AM | Reply
FTA:
While Biden vowed withering economic consequences on Russia should Putin send his troops over the frontier, including restricting its financial transitions in US dollars, he suggested Western nations were not in sync on what to do should a lesser violation occur.
#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-10 11:58 AM | Reply
Putin didn't invade Ukraine during the trump years because he's obsessed with destroying NATO.
#10 | Posted by Tor at 2024-07-10 12:10 PM | Reply
The Ukrainians started building up for their own offensive against the Donbass in early 2022. The Ukrainian shelling into border towns massively increased.
That's why the Russians moved when they did.
Not Everything is about America.
#11 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-07-10 06:49 PM | Reply
The Ukrainians started building up for their own offensive against the Donbass in early 2022.
Who do you think allowed it?
The war has been going on since the revolution in 2014. en.wikipedia.org
Not Everything is about America. #11 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER
Not everything, but you can bet the Ukrainian Vs Russian war is about American involvement in the region. www.pbs.org
#12 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-10 07:03 PM | Reply
Putin didn't invade Ukraine during the trump years because he's obsessed with destroying NATO. #10 | POSTED BY TOR
idk I think asking for people to pay their fair share, in both taxes and obligations is a good thing.
Is asking for people to pay their fair share destroying them?
#13 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-10 07:04 PM | Reply
"I wonder where Putin got the idea America didn't care if he invaded Ukraine? #7 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT"
Nothing you wrote was a counter to ANYTHING I wrote. Thus, it appears as though you accept that ------- Danni's post was full of nonsense and you needed to resort to moving the goalposts in a pathetic attempt to explain away the inconvenient truths that I posted.
The fact remains - Russia DID NOT TAKE a single square meter of Ukrainian land under Trump. Your entire logic opposite of the real world as if Russia wanted to take land (which they have proven they did) - then the best time to do it was under Trump if you believe Trump was 100% compliant to Putin. As Putin did not take any land under Trump, the only logical conclusion is that Putin's fear of Trump stopped him from acting.
Your logic amounts to "Well, Putin only invaded under Biden because he wanted a challenge whereby Trump would have just turned it over without a fight". You realize how stupid that sounds?
#14 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-10 10:01 PM | Reply
"idk I think asking for people to pay their fair share, in both taxes and obligations is a good thing. #13 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT"
Trump's actions directly strengthened NATO by forcing them to pay more into the common defense. So long as they thought the US was a sugar daddy, they refused to spend the required portion of their GDP which led a long-term degradation of Europe's military capabilities. Trump brought the necessary shock to the system to force them to spend more and actually meet their obligations under NATO.
#15 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-10 10:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1
"By banning press oppathetivpposition, religious opposition, and cancelling elections? You have a funny definition of democracy."
By making up blatant lies you just show everyone that comes here how dishonest the Trump cultists are, We really can't believe a single word they say. Traitor is a harsh word but deserved by those who ignore the bombing of a childreb's hospital only a few days ago and instead just makes up comokete lies, just as Trump does, to try to change the public opinion about that murdering psycho Pitin just because Trump is his pathetic bitch so he can't speak out about the atrocities Putin is committing in Ukraine every day. Decent Americans would quickly reject any Presidential candidate so controlled by a foreign dictator but MAGAs ain't decent Americans by any stretch of the imagination!!!
#16 | Posted by danni at 2024-07-10 11:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
"By making up blatant lies you just show everyone that comes here how dishonest the Trump cultists are"
Let's test this: Banning press: europeanjournalists.org
Banning Religions: www.theguardian.com
Cancelling Elections: apnews.com
Once again, you are 0 for 3 - another ------- strike out.
"We really can't believe a single word they say."
It is not that you "can't" - it is that you choose not to do so because you live in a world of alternate facts as demonstrated above in both of our interactions.
"Traitor is a harsh word.... by any stretch of the imagination!!! #16 | POSTED BY DANNI "
I need to borrow a line from Trump - I have no idea what you said at the end and I doubt you have any idea either.
#17 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-10 11:16 PM | Reply
- I have no idea
Proven with every post you make.
You should just copy and paste that each time.
#18 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-10 11:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Claudio and EFFEFTTRATOR are both traitors of the worst sort. If there are even Americans that is. One is just plain stupid and one is just a lying loser. Can anybody guess which one is which?
#19 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-07-10 11:56 PM | Reply
"Claudio and EFFEFTTRATOR are both traitors of the worst sort. #19 | POSTED BY WILDMAN62"
So, I am a traitor because I don't support the US sending our money, equipment, and soldiers to fight a war against Russia for something that does not concern us and has a high potential to incite WW3? If that is what makes me a traitor in the simple minds of --------, then it is a badge I wear proudly.
#20 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-11 12:08 AM | Reply
Fraudio Chamberlain... German, er, I mean, Russian Aggression in Europe doesn't concern him.
How convenient.
#21 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-11 10:05 AM | Reply
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