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Friday, July 12, 2024

It also requires the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to put together a report that considers ways to simplify and shorten the environmental review process for such reactors. Supporters say the legislation is a big deal for the nuclear power sector, and will help bring more of the climate-friendly, albeit controversial, power source online.

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I'm amazed by how bipartisan this bill is:

The ADVANCE Act passed the senate 88-2 after sailing through the House 393-13

#1 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-12 01:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is asinine. Have they come up with a solution to the nuclear waste problem?? It's nuts I tell you.

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-07-12 01:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

One thing does seem clear. In the highest tech nations which are willing to spend the money, nuclear power is only getting safer than it was back in the times of Chernobyl and Three Mile Island.

#3 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-07-12 08:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Good.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-12 08:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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#1 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-12 01:04 PM
I'm amazed by how bipartisan this bill is:

Not surprising at all, and about time. All countries are finally moving in this direction, after they learned about the real costs / TCO, including integration, maintenance, waste, ecological/environmental impact etc. of "intermittent renewables" / VRE, which were known years ago.

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-07-12 01:08 PM
This is asinine. Have they come up with a solution to the nuclear waste problem?? It's nuts I tell you.

Most new reactor designs are safe and thorium MSR or fast "breeder" reactors can actually reduce [old] nuclear waste by reusing fissile material like recycled plutonium, and they are also much more efficient in converting fuel to energy than "conventional" LWRs.
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#5 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-07-12 10:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"...Nuclear Regulatory Commission to put together a report..."
"...ADVANCE Act directs the NRC to develop guidance to license and regulate microreactor designs within 18 months."
"The NRC will examine and streamline licensing processes for nuclear facilities..."

Jeff doesn't realize that people will sue that the NRC did not have the authority to do these things and a federal judge will throw whatever they do out.

Agencies no longer have the authority to create regulations, or did you forget that that is what you want?

See what I mean, jeff, about how ignorant you are?

Welcome to the new paradigm of governing.

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-12 10:20 PM | Reply

"#6 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS"

Your ignorance of Chevron being overturned is truly astounding. I'm seriously blown away by it. This is EXACTLY why Chevron was overturned - Congress makes new laws addressing issues and the Executive carries out those laws AS WRITTEN and when the Executive attempt to re-write said laws causing injury and those injured with standing file suit - the Court and NOT some bureaucrat interprets the law and how it should be applied.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-12 11:30 PM | Reply

You can't read can you?

"ADVANCE Act directs the NRC to develop guidance..."

What exactly do you think people are and will be suing over now that Chevron is gone?

You are too ------- stupid to understand.

this is EXACTLY where interpretation and you know AMBIGUITY comes in.

Just last week a federal judge overturned a Dept of Labor rule EXPLICITELY authorized by law to be interpreted and issued by the Dept. of Labor.

You are simply too ------- stupid to understand what you support.

You support the lawsuits that will emerge questioning the "...guidance to license and regulate microreactor designs..." which will emerge when those licenses and regulations do not meet the desired end of the corporations impacted.

"...examine and streamline licensing processes..." this will require INTERPRETATION of the law by the experts at the agency who will issue RULES on this and there will be lawsuits questioning these things that are against the interest of corporations or environmental groups.

Or do you think environmental groups won't be challenging rules that streamline nuclear power plant construction?

And the interpretation is no longer in the hands of the NRC it is in the hands of a judge and with judge shopping they will look for a left wing judge who will throw out the rules.

Again, this is what YOU want. Why are you not celebrating?

Oh yeah, cause you're an idiot

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-13 12:07 AM | Reply

And fwiw I know more than a little on this subject as my career involves interpretation of agency rules and regulations and how lawsuits impact them, iow I know of which I speak.

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-13 12:09 AM | Reply

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#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-13 12:09 AM
And fwiw I know more than a little on this subject as my career involves interpretation of agency rules and regulations and how lawsuits impact them, iow I know of which I speak.

Then you know that overturning original 'Chevron' decision changed only one thing - the presumption of "infallible omniscience expertise" and deference of courts/judges to "unaccountable" and potentially biased bureaucrats from whatever [current] government agency is setting regulations and imposes fines, administrative actions, or takes to courts the entities it may deem "noncompliant"... which may and often leads to personal or ideological corruption - "Power corrupts and 'absolute' power tend to corrupt absolutely."

IOW, 'Chevron' decision effectively took away judicial branch independence and authority over regulators - whatever they want, they get - and "You can't fight City Hall." Agencies shouldn't be the sole entities "interpreting" the laws (essentially writing them) and "judging" them and "enforcing" them - IOW, "judge, jury and executioner."

Overturning 'Chevron' only took some of that unconstrained power from bureaucrats at executive branch and returned it to judicial branch, where it belongs. People, small businesses, corporations should have the right to challenge authorities in court, and not just internal "administrative appeals" which are usually a waste of time with predetermined result. Just as there should be no presumption of "infallibility" of law enforcement agencies or DAs in criminal cases.

So while, as you noted, there have been some lawsuits against the regulations, due to original 'Chevron' decision/doctrine they were mostly doomed to failure in courts, as courts would almost automatically side with agencies on deference alone. It will still be expensive to file lawsuit, but the chances of proving your case "on the merits" will be substantially better.

So, of course, more lawsuits could be filed because of this, from "both" sides, but the agencies may no longer have essentially unlimited, unaccountable power, simply because the courts were hamstrung by 'Chevron' - hopefully, this will make bureaucrats less capricious or ideological when crafting rules and regulations and take other opinions and input more seriously.
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#10 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-07-15 05:32 PM | Reply

LOL, oh you sweet summer child.

As the mifepristone debacle, the Sackett- wetlands and the Texas Overtime ruling, it absolutely clear that judges will be legislating from the bench.

Let me remind you.

Mifepristone has been around for decades and is safer than tylenol and the 5th circuit overrules their rules on its use, based on anonymous posts on anti-choice blogs that claimed (incorrectly) of negative impacts.

The judge SHOULD have deferred to the experts at the agency. He decided he knew better than them

Sackett Wetlands

the SC decided it was ok to fill wetlands as they did not envision significant damage from doing that. That is patently ridiculous. 2.5 MILLION acres of wetlands FILLED in. Where does that water go? Let me tell you, it moves to other places. It is incredibly stupid to not recognize that. But the justices know better- and that was hardly even partisan 9-0 the SC decided something PATENTLY ABSURD. Filling in 2.5 MILLION Acres in A LOT of water that will go to neighboring properties, NOT be available for cleaning water, kill millions of animals, but who cares, right? Developers got to develop. And BTW I see this EVERY DAY

Texas Overtime.

Congress gave the secretary of Labor the authority of define and delimit who was an exempt EAP under the overtime law. they did that. A texas judge, USING Chevron, said they did not have that authority, so, to the benefit of corporations.

So, I am not confident that the judges will be humble enough to properly adjudicate to the benefit of the American people.

As for the expense be prohibitive, that is patently ridiculous because the interests most impactful on the American people will have deep pockets opposing them.

Ao, again, sweet summer child, expect many many many many lawsuits attacking everything that costs corporations a dime cause Federalist judges will be very open to destroying regulations

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-15 05:55 PM | Reply

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... it absolutely clear that judges will be legislating from the bench.

Yes, it happens, and "both sides" have accused the "other side" of "venue shopping" - you just brought up the decisions "your side" doesn't agree with, they keep bringing up the decisions "their side" doesn't agree with.

That is not a good reason to keep all the power of "legislating by the regulations" with [whoever at the moment runs] the executive branch - care to revisit "Project 2025"? Again, that's irrelevant to how things should be - the agencies (when one or the other side's party is holding executive power) shouldn't be "judge, jury and executioner" of the rules/regulations/"laws" of their own making.

So, I am not confident that the judges will be humble enough to properly adjudicate to the benefit of the American people.

Is the judicial system perfect? No, but the more and more partisan and capricious executive branch shouldn't hold more and more / all the power, as I have described above, the more we need a potential respite from "executive" tyranny.

You only disagree with this now because at the moment "your side" is holding executive power. When the "other side" holds that power and dismisses and rewrites the "laws" you agree with, you will hold a different opinion, just like when SCOTUS was making 5:4 decisions "your side" agreed with you thought that SCOTUS "legislating from the bench" was just fine.

Want to see a "sweet summer child"? Remind yourself of "Project 2025" and look in the mirror.
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#12 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-07-15 07:04 PM | Reply

Oh, I disagree strongly, I am not in any way comfortable with handing over the operation of the entire federal government, including INCREDIBLY complex issues to unelected, lifetime appointed judges who are demonstrating more and more partisanship.

The examples I presented were just a few examples of the madness of handing over complex issues like wetlands to judges who have zero experience in the field-zero. They rely on testimony that is patently absurd and come to dangerous, inexplicable decisions that naturally benefit of monied interest.

The theory they espouse, as do you imply, is that this is a mechanism to return the power to the Legislative Branch, that is simply not workable.

Do yourself a favor and look at the number of agencies:

www.federalregister.gov

Every one of those was established via legislation.

Every one of those agencies generates and promulgates rules INTERPRETING and implementing the laws that Congress passes. The essential nature of any agency is to interpret the laws that created it.

That is a MASSIVE number of regulations.

Now the theory is instead of the agencies interpreting these laws and promulgating rules and deferring to these agencies' expertise, ambiguities will be adjudicated. WeLLLLLLL, a lawyer can find ambiguity in 1+1=2. As we are seeing from this Supreme Court and several of the federal courts, specious arguments with no logic or foundation are finding their way into winning decisions. In other words, despite stare decisis, despite governmental experts courts are creating law out of thin air. That is an unjust system.

One of the unstated goals of Project 2025 is this dismantling of the federal government. They want to do away with the Executive Branch interpreting laws and pass that power to the unelected, unaccountable judiciary.

Are we expected to believe that Congress can react to this disruption in the regulatory process? That they can pass a massive number of bills every year addressing the issues that were addressed by agencies? We are talking funding, expansion of legislative definitions into emerging issues, conflict over how to interpret legislation.

Use the Mifepristone case as an example, should the FDA have to go back nearly every year to have Congress issue new laws with each change in the knowledge database on the drug regarding efficacy or how the drug should be produced, marketed and prescribed? Meaning should Congress have to be bothered to change how Mifepristone is produced, distributed, or marketed when the agency has the expertise to make those decisions? How the drug prescription can and should change as it is deemed safer with more long term data, but self interested powers are trying to remove that power from the FDA to Congress?

Cause that is what happened. the Court said the FDA did not have the authority to make changes to how the drug was distributed. Now consider the lead time it takes to prepare a drug for market, new usage instructions have to be written and approved, new bottling, new systems set up to prescribe the drug. Every year congress will have to delve into the minutiae of each regulation. That is patently absurd, but what is happening. And that is one drug at one agency, we are talking HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of similar issues.

It is patently absurd to expect a nation to rely solely on the Legislative Branch to interpret every aspect of an issue when those issues are complicated, have unforeseeable outcomes, undefinable uncertainties and are subject to change on a regular basis, both sudden and gradual changes. Flexibility in implementing ANY law is essential to any functioning society.

And again, this is an intent of Project 2025, to make the federal government unworkable.

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-15 07:31 PM | Reply

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Every one of those was established via legislation.

Yes, they were, and I don't complain about their existence or regulatory authority - it's just that 'Chevron' made that authority and the "remedies" they seek (fines, other "resolutions") nearly absolute, essentially unquestionable - that is not how the rest of society works and shouldn't exist, as it leads to corruption, both personal and ideological.

Every one of those agencies generates and promulgates rules INTERPRETING and implementing the laws that Congress passes. The essential nature of any agency is to interpret the laws that created it.

'Chevron' created the presumption that regulators' "interpretation" of legislations is "infallible" and thereby removed / significantly reduced the authority of "judicial review" - that is/was blatantly unconstitutional to the "balance of power" of three branches in favor of executive.

If Congress agrees with the "interpretation" of regulators and not judicial "interpretation" of their laws, they can make the laws more specific.

And you are very wrong on who the law benefits more - "deep pockets" can finance and wait for courts to resolve their lawsuits; most complains about capricious or stupid regulations come from small businesses and/or farms who have no financial or legal recourse against rules made by lawyers who don't know and don't care about their specific issues.

You can keep bringing few judicial cases you disagree with, they can keep bringing thousands of cases of "regulatory abuse" they disagree with and we can keep going in circles on this - but it's really the case of people / businesses "having their day in court," something that 'Chevron' denied most except those with "deep pockets."

It is patently absurd to expect a nation to rely solely on the Legislative Branch to interpret every aspect of an issue when those issues are complicated,

It is also patently absurd to claim that each and every rule and regulation, i.e., "law" is fair and takes into account needs of constituents, yet 'Chevron' made it nearly impossible and extremely expensive to argue otherwise, IOW, only "deep pockets" could afford to bring them to court... if they hadn't already participated and got what they needed in those regulations that would make it easier for them and more difficult for the "little guys."

Is it going to be more "inconvenient" and expensive for regulators? You bet, but again, "inconvenience" is no reason to deny legitimate judicial power and grant executive essentially exclusive air of "infallibility" and unaccountable power of making and enforcing "rules," including levying fines and shutting down businesses, effectively without reasonable legal recourse. And maybe, just maybe, it will make regulators more careful in how they make rules and seek input from a wider and more knowledgeable 'experts.'
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#14 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-07-15 08:17 PM | Reply

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