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Israel is committing a genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, the human rights group Amnesty International said on Wednesday, in a campaign that's benefited from huge military and diplomatic support from the United States.

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Israel's war in Gaza amounts to genocide, Amnesty International report finds

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-- The Guardian (@theguardian.com) December 4, 2024 at 8:02 PM

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More: The declaration from Amnesty, an influential watchdog organization with wide international reach and respect, represents a significant addition to the chorus of accusations that the U.S.-backed Israeli offensive constitutes a genocide " one of the gravest possible violations. Its decision was based on more than 200 interviews and a review of visual and digital documentation of Israeli conduct in Gaza, as well as media coverage, reports by the United Nations and humanitarian organizations and statements by Israeli officials and Palestinian groups in Gaza.

"Amnesty International concedes that identifying genocide in armed conflict is complex and challenging, because of the multiple objectives that may exist simultaneously. Nonetheless, it is critical to recognize genocide when it occurs in the context of armed conflict, and to insist that war can never excuse it," the group's report reads.

The report cites in particular the "relentless" Israeli attacks on civilians, infrastructure and cultural sites, and the U.S.-backed offensive's displacement of around 2 million Palestinians "into ever-shrinking, ever-changing pockets of land ... forcing people to live in conditions that exposed them to a slow and calculated death."

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2024-12-05 09:06 AM | Reply

Duh? This is just Too Obvious to anyone paying any attention at all.

If any other country did what Israel is doing they would be Bombed. Not Assisted and Armed.

Israel is more Illegitimate ever day. They kill civilians, noncombatants, medical personnel,they bomb Hospitals and murder journalists.

Their people post obscene videos of torturing and killing and request "likes" after they do so.

I hope they lose everything. Their Nation, their control of the situation, they have already lost their Honor and any moral high ground they may have had.

Self defense is not Carte Blanche to Murder Children and destroy the very culture and existence of people they Fear.

Israeli Exceptionalism is like US Exceptionalism.

The Refuge of Criminals and the Celebration of Cultural Imperialism and arbitrary Murder.

#2 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-05 11:00 AM | Reply

I think that MAGA elected Donald, in part, to complete the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza.

Any argument?

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-05 11:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"If any other country did what Israel is doing they would be Bombed."

If any other country did what Hamas did they would be bombed. Just like the allies did during WWII.

Under this definition, the WWII allies committed genocide in Germany during WWII.

Should Trump apologize to Germany for the US having been part of this?

#4 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-06 01:02 AM | Reply

"I think that MAGA elected Donald, in part, to complete the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza."

Really?

Do you think Israel is going to start building ovens and shoving Palestinians into them?

You do know that this is EXACTLY what the Palestinians would do to the Israelis if they ever got the upper hand, right?

Well...maybe not exactly. The Arabs have never used ovens when extirpating their Jewish populations. Not that I know of anyway.

#5 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-06 01:04 AM | Reply

And isn't the MAGA crowd anti-Semitic? I think I heard that somewhere.

It seems to me they would want to enable the Palestinians in their effort to find a final solution to their Jewish question.

#6 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-06 01:08 AM | Reply

If any other country did what Hamas did they would be bombed.

But Hamas doesn't represent a country.

They represent an impoverished people living in a territory under Israeli control.

Do you think Israel is going to start building ovens and shoving Palestinians into them?

Psshhh. Such an inefficient and outdated method of handling business.

What will you suggest next? Lynchings?

It's 2024. Not 1943.

You do know that this is EXACTLY what the Palestinians would do to the Israelis if they ever got the upper hand, right?

Same thing the Saudis and Egyptians are, figuring out how to work with their neighboring nations.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-06 02:49 AM | Reply

#5 | Posted by madbomber

Nobody is defending Hamas here, Buddy. They are barbarians.

But Israel is a problem. For us.

Their government is fascist, and not a friend to the United States.

It, also, is barbaric,

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-06 07:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I think that MAGA elected Donald, in part, to complete the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza."

Really?

5 | Posted by madbomber

Yes, really.

Jesus.

Donald and MAGA are the worst of us.

Did you vote for him and it? Are you prepared to defy one of Donald's illegal orders, which is sure to come?

You're going to have your chance to be hero, sooner or later. Here's a clue: being a hero is painful. That's why most people pass the opportunity by,

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-06 07:56 AM | Reply

Same thing the Saudis and Egyptians are, figuring out how to work with their neighboring nations.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-06 02:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

So go talk to Iran and tell them to stop funding, training, coordinating, and arming Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, Assad, a militia in Iraq trying to flood into Syria to support Assad that are being blown up by US air power, another militia in Iraq, another militia in Iraq, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

Everybody they bankroll gets subjected to Western airpower.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-06 08:01 AM | Reply

There are so many gaps in that article that don't provide a full set of facts about the entire situation. It's so cherry-picked that it's no wonder so many of you lib kids are eating it up, like you do with everything Dems tell you to think. Reps may be followers of the Trump cult but Dems are the ones actively carrying out their party's bias and either no realizing how sheep-like they have become or just don't care. Nothing Israel is doing is considered genocide. They got attacked, the attackers took hostages, Israel wants them back, case closed. The true question is why is the party that says they are full of morals and justice so eager to just let Hamas keep hostages, kill hostages, abuse hostages, etc.? It makes absolutely no sense unless you understand, by all of the evidence presented, that Dems truly have no platform except hypocrisy. They have no platform except opposing everything the other party believes in and then hypocritically ignoring everything their party does that is just like what they are opposing.

Get a platform and do what's right for humanity and not party, and you may find yourselves not getting voted out again for a long time.

#11 | Posted by humtake at 2024-12-06 01:54 PM | Reply

"They got attacked, the attackers took hostages, Israel wants them back, case closed." I agree but is genocide of an occupied territory right? It is illegal for people in gaza to import SEEDS. This is the side you are on? IMO both side stink.

#12 | Posted by Brennnn at 2024-12-06 02:20 PM | Reply

More Jews were killed by the Nazi in WW2 on a slow weekend. I am not buying what they are vending here. You have Hamass giving the UN and or Amnesty International the stats on just whom is getting killed and you will only read that, "Old women, children and babies died". As if old women, children and babies are lobbing projectiles towards Israel and not the cave dwelling Hamass rapist soldiers for Allah. Give me a break!

#13 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-12-06 04:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So go talk to Iran and tell them to stop funding, training, coordinating, and arming Hamas

Hamas wouldn't exist had Palestinians been given their own country. The initial squabbling would have ceased, as it did with Egypt and the rest of the Middle Eastern nations.

Hezbollah ...
#10 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

I'm not defending the entire Middle East from their actions.

When Hezollah attacks from Lebanon, Lebanon is responsible. Israel has a right to defend itself.

But, when Hamas attacks, Israel is responsible and their retaliation is not acceptable. The people there are lashing out against their oppression, against their oppressors.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-06 04:49 PM | Reply

" But, when Hamas attacks, Israel is responsible and their retaliation is not acceptable"

I guess the Israeli's should all commit suicide - Clownshack

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-06 08:09 PM | Reply

You poor, poor thing!

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-06 10:38 PM | Reply

"But Hamas doesn't represent a country."

Hamas is the democratically elected authority in the West Bank.

"They represent an impoverished people living in a territory under Israeli control."

They represent a population that could have and should have had their own state, just like the Israelis. Instead, they couldn't accept living in the presence of Jews. Much like the German National Socialists, and much like every other Arab state in the region.

"Same thing the Saudis and Egyptians are, figuring out how to work with their neighboring nations."

They've had 80 years. All they have managed to come up with is "from the river to the sea."

#17 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-07 09:49 AM | Reply

#8

There is only one side that has codified the requirement to extirpate the other side.

And it is not Israel. As bad as they may be, they are not the ones who are openly stating that genocide is their endgame.

Like, not the little silly cosplay genocide that antisemites whine about, but real, National Socialist type ----. Like joining the other Arab nations in successfully eliminating their Jewish populations.

#18 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-12-07 09:52 AM | Reply

Dude, you're paranoid.

Israel could have made everyone a citizen. They could have become a multi ethnic society,a model of equal rights under the law.

Jewish Supremacy was too much the point of the Zionist endeavor.

They came and stole everything they could. They killed anyone who resisted.

Usurpation is not Peace. Murder is not tranquility.

Israel got what they gave. No less.

Better Weapons and outside backing is the "secret" to their success at subduing the Palestinians.

It's why they can persist to this day. If their support is curtailed they won't be there much longer.

A Fake Country inhabited by fanatical zealots backed by Imperial countries in Decline.

I doubt Israel will exist in 100 years, maybe far less.

The Arabs will still be there....

#19 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-07 10:46 AM | Reply

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Amnesty International: Israel Is Carrying Out Genocide

Amnesty International knows on which side its bread is buttered, and is a broken record, just like Russian/Putin's influencers here and other social media.

Even Israeli branch of Amnesty Int'l (actually on the ground there) disagreed with their parent org "declaration":
Israeli section of Amnesty International does not accept the accusation that Israel is committing genocide, based on the information available to us...

Germany joins US in rejecting Amnesty's 'genocide' accusation against Israel

But that doesn't make "mainstream" news, just like report retracting previous UN's declaration of "Israel starvation of Gaza" didn't receive any time in US media, while the initial declaration of phony "Israel's policy of starvation" was shouted far and wide... and yet "starvation" was cited in stupid ICC decision.

At the same time Hamas stealing food supplies from Gazans for themselves and their loyalists, right after trucks go through checkpoints, and Hamas keeping people from leaving buildings and areas that Israel warned them to evacuate (to prevent civilian casualties) has been well known, but kept silent, all this time

People who hate Jews and Israel (for being their homeland) are still unwilling to connect the dots between Russia-North Korea-Iran and their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and dozen other terrorist orgs that all had a nice "coordination" meeting in Moscow a few months ago) using Palestinians as their pawns and inflicting as much pain and suffering on them, to blame Israel, the US and fracture the West.

Despite clear facts to the contrary, Russian paid trolls and "influencers" heavily promote, and many Lefties (particularly very old and very young ones) still believe, ridiculous Soviet-era KGB propaganda about Israel/Jews "stealing the land" / "colonizing" / "apartheid" / "genocide" etc., ... just as they feed Righties with lies about Ukraine "Nazis" / "not democracy" / "Zelensky and wife stealing millions" and denials about Russian disinformation, misinformation, influence and election interference campaigns - "not Russia, Russia, Russia" etc.

www.rawstory.com - Bait-and-switch ad campaign carefully planned to trigger potential Harris voters - Nov 15, 2024

|------- With 25 focus groups and $45 million, political advisors to X owner Elon Musk pitted people against each other to cause a rift in the Democratic party and depress turnout for Kamala Harris'...

The Washington Post ... uncovered what it called a manipulation effort that resulted in protest votes and pulled down Democratic excitement.

... Muslims were bombarded by ads promoting Harris' backing of Israel, while Jewish voters were told she was supportive of Palestine. Left-wingers were told Harris has "abandoned the progressive dream" while more conservative voters heard of her liberal agenda.

Ryan Tyson told the Post that it was clear that many people hated Trump and would never be persuaded to support him.

"But once you get past White progressives, every other historical demographic stronghold from the Democrats just started to drop off. What did exist was a tremendous amount of voters on the left that were disaffected. And the only persuasion question was whether they could be persuaded to vote."

... Their effort "worked in concert with a separate project by the Trump campaign to depress turnout for Harris - knowing that Trump would be unlikely to drastically expand his vote totals."

A Trump campaign advisor confessed their goal was to "push her numbers down."
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#20 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-12-08 09:10 PM | Reply

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Amnesty International: Israel Is Carrying Out Genocide

Amnesty International knows on which side its bread is buttered, and is a broken record, just like Russian/Putin's influencers here and other social media.

Even Israeli branch of Amnesty Int'l (actually on the ground there) disagreed with their parent org "declaration":
Israeli section of Amnesty International does not accept the accusation that Israel is committing genocide, based on the information available to us...

Germany joins US in rejecting Amnesty's 'genocide' accusation against Israel

But that doesn't make "mainstream" news, just like report retracting previous UN's declaration of "Israel starvation of Gaza" didn't receive any time in US media, while the initial declaration of phony "Israel's policy of starvation" was shouted far and wide... and yet "starvation" was cited in stupid ICC decision.

At the same time Hamas stealing food supplies from Gazans for themselves and their loyalists, right after trucks go through checkpoints, and Hamas keeping people from leaving buildings and areas that Israel warned them to evacuate (to prevent civilian casualties) has been well known, but kept silent, all this time

People who hate Jews and Israel (for being their homeland) are still unwilling to connect the dots between Russia-North Korea-Iran and their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and dozen other terrorist orgs that all had a nice "coordination" meeting in Moscow a few months ago) using Palestinians as their pawns and inflicting as much pain and suffering on them, to blame Israel, the US and fracture the West.

Despite clear facts to the contrary, Russian paid trolls and "influencers" heavily promote, and many Lefties (particularly very old and very young ones) still believe, ridiculous Soviet-era KGB propaganda about Israel/Jews "stealing the land" / "colonizing" / "apartheid" / "genocide" etc., ... just as they feed Righties with lies about Ukraine "Nazis" / "not democracy" / "Zelensky and wife stealing millions" and denials about Russian disinformation, misinformation, influence and election interference campaigns - "not Russia, Russia, Russia" etc.

www.rawstory.com - Bait-and-switch ad campaign carefully planned to trigger potential Harris voters - Nov 15, 2024

|------- With 25 focus groups and $45 million, political advisors to X owner Elon Musk pitted people against each other to cause a rift in the Democratic party and depress turnout for Kamala Harris'...

The Washington Post ... uncovered what it called a manipulation effort that resulted in protest votes and pulled down Democratic excitement.

... Muslims were bombarded by ads promoting Harris' backing of Israel, while Jewish voters were told she was supportive of Palestine. Left-wingers were told Harris has "abandoned the progressive dream" while more conservative voters heard of her liberal agenda.

Ryan Tyson told the Post that it was clear that many people hated Trump and would never be persuaded to support him.

"But once you get past White progressives, every other historical demographic stronghold from the Democrats just started to drop off. What did exist was a tremendous amount of voters on the left that were disaffected. And the only persuasion question was whether they could be persuaded to vote."

... Their effort "worked in concert with a separate project by the Trump campaign to depress turnout for Harris - knowing that Trump would be unlikely to drastically expand his vote totals."

A Trump campaign advisor confessed their goal was to "push her numbers down."
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#21 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-12-08 09:11 PM | Reply

__________
Amnesty International: Israel Is Carrying Out Genocide

Amnesty International knows on which side its bread is buttered, and is a broken record, just like Russian/Putin's influencers here and other social media.

Even Israeli branch of Amnesty Int'l (actually on the ground there) disagreed with their parent org "declaration":
Israeli section of Amnesty International does not accept the accusation that Israel is committing genocide, based on the information available to us...

Germany joins US in rejecting Amnesty's 'genocide' accusation against Israel

But that doesn't make "mainstream" news, just like report retracting previous UN's declaration of "Israel starvation of Gaza" didn't receive any time in US media, while the initial declaration of phony "Israel's policy of starvation" was shouted far and wide... and yet "starvation" was cited in stupid ICC decision.

At the same time Hamas stealing food supplies from Gazans for themselves and their loyalists, right after trucks go through checkpoints, and Hamas keeping people from leaving buildings and areas that Israel warned them to evacuate (to prevent civilian casualties) has been well known, but kept silent, all this time

People who hate Jews and Israel (for being their homeland) are still unwilling to connect the dots between Russia-North Korea-Iran and their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and dozen other terrorist orgs that all had a nice "coordination" meeting in Moscow a few months ago) using Palestinians as their pawns and inflicting as much pain and suffering on them, to blame Israel, the US and fracture the West.

Despite clear facts to the contrary, Russian paid trolls and "influencers" heavily promote, and many Lefties (particularly very old and very young ones) still believe, ridiculous Soviet-era KGB propaganda about Israel/Jews "stealing the land" / "colonizing" / "apartheid" / "genocide" etc., ... just as they feed Righties with lies about Ukraine "Nazis" / "not democracy" / "Zelensky and wife stealing millions" and denials about Russian disinformation, misinformation, influence and election interference campaigns - "not Russia, Russia, Russia" etc.

www.rawstory.com - Bait-and-switch ad campaign carefully planned to trigger potential Harris voters - Nov 15, 2024

|------- With 25 focus groups and $45 million, political advisors to X owner Elon Musk pitted people against each other to cause a rift in the Democratic party and depress turnout for Kamala Harris'...

The Washington Post ... uncovered what it called a manipulation effort that resulted in protest votes and pulled down Democratic excitement.

... Muslims were bombarded by ads promoting Harris' backing of Israel, while Jewish voters were told she was supportive of Palestine. Left-wingers were told Harris has "abandoned the progressive dream" while more conservative voters heard of her liberal agenda.

Ryan Tyson told the Post that it was clear that many people hated Trump and would never be persuaded to support him.

"But once you get past White progressives, every other historical demographic stronghold from the Democrats just started to drop off. What did exist was a tremendous amount of voters on the left that were disaffected. And the only persuasion question was whether they could be persuaded to vote."

... Their effort "worked in concert with a separate project by the Trump campaign to depress turnout for Harris - knowing that Trump would be unlikely to drastically expand his vote totals."

A Trump campaign advisor confessed their goal was to "push her numbers down."
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#22 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-12-08 09:11 PM | Reply

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#23 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-12-08 09:13 PM | Reply

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