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A group funded by billionaire Elon Musk is offering Wisconsin voters $100 to sign a petition in opposition to "activist judges," a move that comes two weeks before the state's Supreme Court election ...

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A poll worker in Wisconsin told me they're hearing "a LOT of anti-Musk comments among the people coming in to cast in-person absentee ballots."

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-- Scott Dworkin (@dworkin.bsky.social) March 20, 2025 at 12:51 PM

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Leon Financially Retaliated Against Son He Shares With Ashley St. Clair

www.yahoo.com

What a dirtbag.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-22 02:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#1: Family values, right? Isn't that the Republican mantra? Just like SCOTUS Justice Clarence Thomas and his son: www.newsweek.com

#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-22 03:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

amp.kentucky.com

Matt Bevin has the GQP family values routine down pat.

#3 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-22 04:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Krasnov Fats admits Leon rigged voting in Pennsylvania.

www.yahoo.com

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-22 04:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

How can it possibly be legal, not to mention credible, to pay people to vote or sign a petition?

#5 | Posted by cbob at 2025-03-22 05:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Where do I go to get my money?

#6 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-23 04:45 PM | Reply

Democrats specialized in using rich party hacks to rig elections and policy. Now they refined it via nepotism.

#7 | Posted by Robson at 2025-03-24 08:40 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Democrats specialized in using rich party hacks to rig elections and policy."

You specialized in nothing.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-24 09:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is blantantly wrong, like everything the MAGAs do. They justify their rape of the country with conspiracy theories about "DEI" and the "Deep State"

#9 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-03-24 12:27 PM | Reply

Auditing and attempting to reduce waste, fraud and abuse of Federal spending is not rape.

#10 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-24 01:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- fraud and abuse of Federal spending

$40 billion to Musk in tax breaks, loans, and Fed contracts... which he then spends $300 million to swing an election?

Your Nazi Hero needs look no further than the end of his nose for fraud and abuse... not to mention his LIES about fraud and abuse.

"Trump and Musk Are Running a Disinformation Campaign on Social Security
Why are they telling so many lies about this program?"

www.motherjones.com

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-24 01:40 PM | Reply

"Auditing and attempting to reduce waste, fraud and abuse..."

Except the firings came BEFORE the "auditing".

Oops.

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-24 01:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Trump and Musk Are Running a Disinformation Campaign on Social Security"

Anybody who tells you Social Security is a Ponzi scheme...

...just admitted they don't understand the math behind Social Security, or Ponzi schemes.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-24 01:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Democrats specialized in using rich party hacks to rig elections and policy. Now they refined it via nepotism.
#7 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Whoever is running this AI Troll bot really needs to update the programming.

What the hell does this comment mean and what's its in response to?

How do you say, "make work better." in Russian?

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-24 03:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Social Security is like a Ponzi in that current benefits are largely paid for by payments from current workers. The difference is that Ponzi couldn't print money to make up the shortfall.

#15 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-24 11:43 PM | Reply

"Social Security is like a Ponzi..."

No it's not. Please educate yourself (and Elon, while you're at it).

Social Security is an EQUILIBRIUM EQUATION. We know because it was operating at a surplus once Reagan changed the percentages.

We also knew it was going to go underwater right around 2012, no matter who was President. In fact, we saw it coming FIFTY YEARS in advance: it's called the Baby Boomer retirement.

And right now, if we added 1 point to the employer's side, and 1 point to the worker's side...the Social Security equation would be in balance for 75 years, which is what actuaries refer to as perpetuity.

Meanwhile, Ponzi schemes are always opaque, their formulas are always "trade secrets", and there is no way to bring a Ponzi scheme into balance. Social Security is NONE OF THOSE THINGS.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-24 11:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You're smarter than that. The "surplus" was spent as fast it was collected. The difference is that we're printing money now.

#17 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-24 11:57 PM | Reply

"The "surplus" was spent as fast it was collected."

That doesn't make SS a Ponzi scheme. That just makes you unaware of what a Ponzi scheme really is.

"The difference is that we're printing money now."

No, that difference is Cheney and Dubya resetting America's fiscal sights from Surplusville to Debtsylvania. Pick up a history book, ffs.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-25 12:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Here comes dem dose receipts, VISITOR_, you dirt rotten cultist:

The response to the alias known as VISTIOR_ is largely accurate and provides a well-reasoned argument against the comparison of Social Security to a Ponzi scheme. Let's break down the key points:

1. Social Security as an equilibrium equation: This is correct. Social Security is designed to balance income from current workers with payouts to current retirees[1][5].

2. Historical surplus: The statement about Reagan changing percentages and creating a surplus is accurate. The 1983 reforms under Reagan did increase payroll taxes and created a surplus in the Social Security trust fund[1].

3. Predictability of challenges: The response correctly points out that the strain on Social Security due to Baby Boomer retirements was anticipated well in advance. This long-term planning and transparency are in stark contrast to Ponzi schemes[1][3].

4. Potential for balance: The suggestion that adding 1 percentage point each to employer and employee contributions could balance Social Security for 75 years is a simplification, but it accurately reflects that the system can be adjusted to maintain solvency, unlike Ponzi schemes[3][5].

5. Transparency vs. opacity: The response correctly highlights that Social Security is transparent, with clear formulas and regular reporting, while Ponzi schemes are intentionally opaque[3][5].

6. Structural differences: The response accurately points out that Social Security, unlike Ponzi schemes, can be brought into balance through adjustments[3][5].

The only minor inaccuracy is the specific year mentioned for Social Security going "underwater." The exact timing of trust fund depletion has varied in projections over the years, but recent estimates suggest it will occur in the mid-2030s, not 2012[1][3].

In conclusion, the response provides an accurate and well-informed rebuttal to the claim that Social Security is like a Ponzi scheme, highlighting key structural and operational differences between the two.

Citations:
[1]
www.urban.org
[2] foreignpolicy.com
[3] www.politifact.com
[4] www.yahoo.com
[5] retirementincomejournal.com
[6] www.michiganstatelawreview.org
[7] www.cato.org

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-03-25 12:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

More reading for your cultist pleasure:

[8] www.brookings.edu
[9] www.bostonreview.net
[10] www.hoover.org
[11] www.thinkadvisor.com
[12] www.yahoo.com
[13] www.poynter.org
[14] www.cato.org
[15] www.fleschnerlaw.com
[16] www.econlib.org

#20 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-03-25 12:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#17 ... You're smarter than that. ...

I remain to be convinced that in the conversation between your alias and Danforth that your alias should be using the term "smarter."

But, keep going. ...

#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-25 12:15 AM | Reply

There is a difference between claiming something 'is' a thing, and saying it is 'like' that thing. You missed that distinction. Thanks for playing.

#22 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-25 12:25 AM | Reply

"The only minor inaccuracy is the specific year mentioned for Social Security going "underwater.""

That's because my definition of "underwater" wasn't based on when the funds would run out; it was when the funds stopped being a surplus, usually used to mask part of the national debt.

Otherwise, it seems I was spot on, point by point.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-25 01:32 AM | Reply

#19. #20

Excellent research, Rsty. Those are some SERIOUS receipts!

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-25 01:33 AM | Reply

@#22 ... There is a difference between claiming something 'is' a thing, and saying it is 'like' that thing. ...

Aside from the resulting vaguely directed ad hominem attack in the rest of the comment, what's your current alias' point?


And what specific comment is it referring to?

thx.

#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-25 01:40 AM | Reply

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