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Wednesday, May 14, 2025

Boys' educational achievement, mental health and transitions to adulthood indicate that many are not thriving.

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I guess this is why MAGA wants to rid the country of DEI?

#1 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-05-14 11:20 AM | Reply

Trump will address this by stopping data collection.

And men will blame anyone but themselves for their own shortcomings.

50 Years of "Draw-A-Scientist" Studies
Today, more than half of girls draw a woman when asked to draw a scientist, a number that's risen steadily since the 1960s.
www.edutopia.org

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 11:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Boys' educational achievement, mental health and transitions to adulthood indicate that many are not thriving."

Educational Achievement is Woke.
Mental Health is Woke.
Transition is Woke.
Thriving is Woke.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 12:04 PM | Reply

Old Yeller, his hair now dyed as white as a polar bear's beehind when contrasted with a deepening Oompa Loompa hue slathered onto his sagging features, propped-up at an odd angle once cinched into his girdle and thrust precipitously forward, teetering on those pesky lifts in his shoes, as he yammers and whines incessantly like Gloria Swanson in "Sunset Boulevard" ... yup, that's real masculinity for you, MAGAt style.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-05-14 01:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Democrats hate young men and masculinity. That has been their message for decades.

Thats why the Democrat leaders from Biden to Obama to George Stephanopoulus all oddly sit Priscilla like cross legged as silly well trained academics and prissy women seals. Democrats hate average Americans and the concept of men and boys. We've see it for years in every sly policy where they always make the policy to favor females and harm men. Compare Trump and the Saudis on stage to Democrat politicians that project unadulterated femininity.

#5 | Posted by Robson at 2025-05-14 08:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Thats why the Democrat leaders from Biden to Obama to George Stephanopoulus all oddly sit Priscilla like cross legged"

Imagine being so fragile in your masculinity that you are threatened by the way other men sit!

What in the hell has happened to Republican white men in this country?

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 08:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, the liberals changed the entire educational system by removing hands on education, making a majority of the work 'group work', de-emphasized testing - basically, removing the goal oriented motivation that aligns with male learning styles, and then removing recess and physical activities - all to be better aligned with female learning styles to close the male/female achievement gap.

And the result? Females are thriving and males are struggling - and males are increasingly turning away from the school based educational systems for vocational training. Women now make up 60% of college students - although total number of college students is falling.

Basically, the US chose to overhaul the US education system to cater towards female learning styles and it was successful - but, it came in part at the expense of males by decreasing their performance and interest in school.

#7 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-14 08:20 PM | Reply

"Thats why the Democrat leaders from Biden to Obama to George Stephanopoulus all oddly sit Priscilla like cross legged as silly well trained academics and prissy women seals.
#5 | Posted by Robson"

The school system focused on female learning styles also works out very well for short guys and guys with low T-levels like homosexuals (Obama included in this). The low-T allows them to sit still during puberty while most males will undergo wild hormone swings during this time and the resulting discipline by the school turning them off from education. In the case of Obama, who is homosexual per his letters to his ex-girlfriend - he also lowered his T-levels through chronic use of weed and cocaine (crack).

#8 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-14 08:26 PM | Reply

@#8 ... The school system focused on female learning styles ...

Got links?

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 08:32 PM | Reply

I think he means this:

"From an early age, girls are taught to earn better grades than boys."
"Or can our boys simply not meet the same behavioral standards as girls?"
dailycollegian.com

Why would boys be able to meet the same standards as girls? As adults, men cannot meet the same behavioral standards as women. Men commit over 90% of violent crime and sexual assault.

You don't think they're taught this is acceptable as boys? What other explanation is there?

Men are simply worse people than women. They're less intelligent, less educated, and more violent.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 08:38 PM | Reply

"#9 | Posted by LampLighter"

Here are 2 -------. I know you won't actually read them so don't ask for more until you do.

www.amacad.org

www.ascd.org

#11 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-14 08:42 PM | Reply

"Men are simply worse people than women. They're more violent.
#10 | Posted by snoofy"

Black women commit murder at a higher rate than white men - it is not a gender issue.

Black women: 5.7/100,000
White men: 3.0/100,000

Stats are real - not emotional arguments which is all liberals have.

#12 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-14 08:47 PM | Reply

@#11 ... I know you won't actually read them so don't ask for more until you do. ...

That comment seems to be self-contradictory. But there it is.

Anyway, that aside ...

The www.amacad.org link - Sorry, we can't find the page you want.

The www.ascd.org link seems to agree more with the comment your current trolling alias disagrees with, than the disagreement your current trolling alias presents. Indeed, the article seems to present quite the contrary viewpoint that your current trolling proffers.

Of course, that leads me to ask, did your current trolling alias even read that article?





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#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 08:57 PM | Reply

Well...the ol' "white man's burden"...

...My, how things have changed.

(and, FWIW, Ol' Robson's hilarious!)

#14 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-05-14 09:03 PM | Reply


Then there's this .... related?

Young men are leading a religious resurgence
www.axios.com

... Christianity is starting to make a comeback in the U.S. and other western countries, led by young people.

Why it matters: A decades-long decline has stalled, shaping the future of Gen Z, the drivers of the religion revival.

- - - "We've seen the plateau of non-religion in America," says Ryan Burge, a political scientist at Eastern Illinois University. "Gen Z is not that much less religious than their parents, and that's a big deal."

By the numbers: Data from Pew shows that, for decades, each age group has been less Christian than the one before it.

- - - Americans born in the 1970s are 63% Christian. 1980s babies are 53% Christian, and 1990s babies are 46% Christian.

- - - But there was no decline from the 1990s to the 2000s. Americans born in the 2000s are also 46% Christian.

Stunning stat: Gen Z-ers " especially Gen Z men " are actually more likely to attend weekly religious services than millennials and even some younger Gen X-ers, Burge's analysis shows.

Between the lines: Young men are leading American's religion resurgence. ...


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 09:05 PM | Reply

@#15

My first question on the topic would be along the lines of ...

Has the politicization of religion, i.e., in the US the right-wing Christian effort, been the attraction?

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 09:07 PM | Reply

"Young men are leading a religious resurgence"

Young men are adopting a world view that overstates their importance and rationalizes their butt-hurt selfishness.

They ain't being religious like Jimmy Carter!

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 09:08 PM | Reply

@#16

... and as a follow-up question ...

If Pres Trump wants to revoke Harvard university's tax exempt status because he thinks it is political, then should we also revoke the tax-exempt status of the religious sects in which the Pasotrs preach political sermons?

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 09:09 PM | Reply

"Has the politicization of religion, i.e., in the US the right-wing Christian effort, been the attraction?"

Attraction is not the right word to describe the mindset of someone who is being groomed.

Gangs and prey on people who don't have better options in society. Groomers offer emotional support and friendship to the outcast.

Men grew up thinking the world owed them a job and a career are victims all right. Victims of their own mythology. They groomed themselves on "Masculine culture" like Joe Rogan. They self-radicalized listening to Rush Limbaugh and Donald Trump.

As adults, they are malcontent but they have been conditioned to believe it's always somebody else's fault.

They are the Alpha Victims.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 09:14 PM | Reply

@#17 ... They ain't being religious like Jimmy Carter! ...

Speaking of fmr Pres Carter ...

When he became President, he put his business, the peanut farm, into a blind trust. He did not try to profit off of his occupancy of the Oval Office for the benefit of that blind trust.

Has Pres Trump put his businesses into a blind trust?


#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 09:18 PM | Reply

"The www.amacad.org link - Sorry, we can't find the page you want.

Here is the live link for this article: direct.mit.edu

The main point of this article is the shift in learning to inclusive/team methods of learning which are better aligned with female learning styles. This has been a major goal and trend in US education. If you want more detail in this actually occurring, you can refer to The National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) show a growing emphasis on collaborative learning in U.S. K-12 schools.

"The www.ascd.org link seems to agree more with the comment your current trolling alias disagrees with, than the disagreement your current trolling alias presents. Indeed, the article seems to present quite the contrary viewpoint that your current trolling proffers.
#13 | Posted by LampLighter""

The entire point of the article is about how teachers need to make the classrooms more inclusive for females and to increase the harshness on grading for males. This not about enhancing male performance in K-12, it is about how to make classrooms more suitable for female learning styles and teacher feedback to encourage that - as well as making it more difficult for males to succeed by asking teachers to re-examine their grading for males.

I recently had a large debate with some of my Korean colleagues on the difference between the Korean education system and the American education system and how the US has switched to these team styles of learning and emphasizing testing to lower the gender gap. Korean takes the exact opposite approach with emphasis on rote memorization and standardized testing and no emphasis on groups which is why I looked into this subject in the first place.

I stand by my comments - the changing teaching style has truly benefited females in the US and their performance materially improved. However, a portion of that improvement came at the expense of males by no longer using teaching styles aligned to male learning styles.

#21 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-14 09:48 PM | Reply

@#21 ... The main point of this article is the shift in learning to inclusive/team methods of learning which are better aligned with female learning styles. ...

thx for that follow-up link.

Well, yeah. after decades, oh so many decades, of male-focused learning, now there seems to be an effort for more of a balance.

So, what's the problem here?


#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 10:02 PM | Reply

"female learning styles."

Stop saying female learning styles without defining it. It sounds like Anti-Woke nonsense.

Tell us and what differentiates it from other learning styles.

Does female learning styles mean "learning styles that don't work on dumb people"? Like Critical Theory.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 10:19 PM | Reply

We lose war after war... even though we've convinced ourselves we have the biggest, mightiest, strongest, best-equipped, most advanced, and smartest military in the world. Wars of conquest aren't as popular as they once were. Most of human history men were made on the battlefield... so a hiccup in hard wiring... evolution...

We feed them until they are fat... we feed them like they had to rise early and milk the cows before setting out for school and chop a cord of wood when they got home... stop feeding them so much

They learn about sex from pornography streamed to them over the computers we gave them to "stay in touch"... rather than learning face to face with another human...

They have more knowledge with less experience...

Virtually everything is being automated... more effort in figuring out how to get more done with fewer people... rendering many ambitions null.

I can go on and on... male inventions of invalidation

We keep expecting them to function with our values... in a world that bears only a vague resemblance to where our values developed or had meaning. We expect them to have the same fertility levels as their grandfathers had when the planet no longer needs as many people reproducing.

But ya know... people are always worried about the welfare of young males...
I don't remember a time in life when something didn't need doing for young males.
Organizations have been built around young men needing something to man them up.
The "hero with a thousand faces" is the millions of stories told over millennia about some young male's struggle with manhood.

maybe young males need to get over themselves... for most.. their life isn't that bad... and besides 99.999999999999999999999% aren't going to accomplish all that much anyways... so what?

#24 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-05-14 10:32 PM | Reply

"Well, yeah. after decades, oh so many decades, of male-focused learning, now there seems to be an effort for more of a balance.
So, what's the problem here?
#22 | Posted by LampLighter"

If the gains for one group come at the expense of the other, it may not be worth cheering the results. In the case we see for actual observable data - women have become more engaged in education than men and are making up a larger share of college students. I think this MAY be a good thing - I think we have too many people attending college because it has become a checkbox item for hiring as opposed to people apply what they learned there but that is a different discussion. I suspect that many males (especially white males) have stopped going the college route due to the documented discrimination against hiring of white males by the Fortune 500 companies over the last decade+.

#25 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-14 11:24 PM | Reply

"Stop saying female learning styles without defining it. It sounds like Anti-Woke nonsense.
#23 | Posted by snoofy"

Read a book -------. This is 100% documented and not disputed.

#26 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-05-14 11:25 PM | Reply

@#25 ... If the gains for one group come at the expense of the other, it may not be worth cheering the results. ...

For the most part I agree.

But what if the extra effort for one group is targeted to make up for the neglect of that group in the past?

Shouldn't we want to provide the ability for all to succeed?



#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 11:42 PM | Reply

"Read a book -------. This is 100% documented and not disputed."

Which book? Does it have a pink cover? Will it turn me gay?

Find better excuses for the failure of White Male Society than "I was taught like a girl."

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 11:43 PM | Reply

@#28

At this point, I look at this tune as the theme song for the current trolling alias (with its apparent need for ad hominem attacks so often) you replied to ...

Skinny - Failure (2001)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
Why have I always been a failure?
Why have I always been a failure?
Why have I always been a failure?
What can the reason be?
...


#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 11:51 PM | Reply

I have noticed one thing about Trumpers.
Something that makes then different from Women who aren't Trumpers.
They have poor emotional control.

They do not seem to be able to regulate their emotions all that well.
And they almost always become emotional, especially anger, when discussing, well, anything.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 11:52 PM | Reply

MAGATS males are the same incel cucks who shoot random women because the hottie at school told them to look in a mirror. In other words, they have a completely inaccurate view of themselves (you ugly, bro) and have been indoctrinated by other ugly dopes on the interwebs to think they can go ---- whoever they want. Grow the ---- up.

#31 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-05-15 01:34 AM | Reply

"We've see it for years in every sly policy where they always make the policy to favor females and harm men."

I know this is a complete waste of my time but can you name ONE democratic policy that was designed to HELP women and HARM men?

Thank you.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-15 11:35 AM | Reply

So no child left behind is leaving children behind.

What a ------- shock.

W's grift was a payday for his brother's company and it is failing america, just like he did.

#33 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-05-15 02:02 PM | Reply

Young men are always in an existential crisis about something. Seriously... name one time in history when this wasn't true.

Sometimes it's exhausting sharing the same planet with you guys.

#34 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-05-15 02:57 PM | Reply

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