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President Trump said Saturday that he plans to speak with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and NATO leaders on Monday to try to arrange a ceasefire in the war in Ukraine.

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-- The Washington Post (@washingtonpost.com) May 17, 2025 at 11:59 AM

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Krasnov Fats' deference to Putin stunned European leaders on call

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#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-05-20 07:32 AM | Reply

Trumpf hasn't seen his mentor since 2018 Finland. All of this hemming and hawing from Trumpf and him using Witless and Kellogg as special envoys sounds like a canard or a construct to validate an excuse for a summit between Trumpf and Putin. "See? The only way to get this done is for me to see Putin!" So another multi-million dollar travel extravaganza is coming down the pike: i.redd.it

#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-20 07:51 AM | Reply

President Trump has dementia:

"Trump told the leaders that Putin agreed to start direct negotiations on a ceasefire immediately. A source on the call said there were a few seconds of puzzled silence.

Zelensky then pointed out that Putin had previously agreed to negotiate, and the first round of ceasefire talks took place on Friday in Istanbul. Trump didn't directly respond, the sources said.

The sources said Zelensky and several other leaders on the call told Trump it had been his idea to start the peace talks with an immediate 30-day ceasefire."

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 09:24 AM | Reply

does trump have "stage 9" dementia?

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-05-20 10:19 AM | Reply

Trump Backs Off His Demand That Russia Declare a Cease-Fire in Ukraine

But Putin's Bitch has doubled-down on his demands that he be permitted to swallow.

#5 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-20 03:25 PM | Reply

-zelensky makes it illegal to negotiate with russia
-says it doesn't apply to him personally
-refuses to negotiate, sends others who are per him not authorized to negotiate

this guy is all over the place
slava all the way to the last ukranian!

#6 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-20 06:29 PM | Reply

@#6 ... zelensky makes it illegal to negotiate with russia ...

That's from 2022. Three years ago. The whole situation has changed since then.

So ... what's yer current alias got for the present that may actually be relevant?


... this guy is all over the place ...

If your current alias is speaking of Pres Trump, I'll agree.

100%.



#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 07:09 PM | Reply

That's from 2022. Three years ago. The whole situation has changed since then.
#7 | Posted by sealion1

But the law, did that change too?
spoiler:no

#8 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-20 10:33 PM | Reply

@#8 ... But the law ...

Didn't Zelensky impose a ban on talks with Putin? Not really (May 2025)
kyivindependent.com

... President Volodymyr Zelensky's willingness to hold direct talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin this week in Istanbul sparked a question over whether such a move contradicts his earlier decree.

In the fall of 2022, Zelensky signed a decree that "stated the impossibility of holding negotiations with Russian President Putin," as a response to Russia's illegal annexation of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson oblasts, parts of which Moscow didn't even control.

"He (Putin) does not know what dignity and honesty are. We are ready for a dialogue with Russia, but with a different president of Russia," Zelensky said at the time.

Moscow has cited Zelensky's decree as a ban on talks with Putin and used it as an excuse for avoiding direct talks with Kyiv. Putin has also falsely claimed that Zelensky lacks legitimacy and can't represent Ukraine.

Putin said that such talks would be considered "illegitimate" and therefore "their outcomes could also be declared illegitimate." Now, Putin himself said that he's open to direct talks with Ukraine.

According to a source in Ukraine's president's office, the decree was a "signal to those in Ukraine who wanted to speak (to Russians) bypassing the central government."

"Back then we stated the impossibility, now we can state the possibility, the president as the head of state determines this," the source added.

"There is no ban as such, the Russians twisted it."

What is the decree about?

The decree concerning negotiations with Putin was a response to the five decisions approved by the National Security and Defense Council adopted on Sept. 30, 2022. Days later, the document was signed by Zelensky.

Although the decree does not explicitly mention a ban on holding talks, many have seen it as a de facto ban on direct talks with Putin. ...

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#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 10:43 PM | Reply

"Under the National Security and Defense Council's resolution - and the constitution says the same, I am in charge of this mission and no one but me can engage in talks related to Ukraine's sovereignty. No one but me can hold relevant talks with the Russian leader and leaders of other countries. This is my right and duty I haven't banned myself from anything," he told journalists before leaving for Turkey.

don't try to gaslight me, sealion

#10 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-21 12:44 AM | Reply

A September 2022 decree, endorsed by Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council and signed by Zelensky, prohibits negotiations with Russia while Putin remains in office. The law was introduced as Kiev pursued a military victory in the conflict.

don't try to gaslight me, sealion

#11 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-21 12:44 AM | Reply

archive.is
inside joke for everyone except lamps

#12 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-05-21 01:03 AM | Reply

The Art of the Deal was a ghostwriting bunch of nonsense and that is what Trump is showing to us all, that he cannot do anything but shed blather upon the airwaves.

#13 | Posted by Hughmass at 2025-05-21 07:33 AM | Reply

No one but me can hold relevant talks with the Russian leader and leaders of other countries. This is my right and duty I haven't banned myself from anything," he told journalists before leaving for Turkey.

So the Lyin King Trumpy does NOT hold all the cards.

Interesting.

We warned you Trumpy was Lyin when he said he could END the war on Day One (and even before)..

Because the Lyn King Trumpy is a Mad King who really does not have a clue so he lies about EVERYTHING. Then he hires lawyers to try to make his lies come true. Unfortunately his lawyers have no control over Pooty Pants who is probably the richest man in the world. (He doesn't want to brag about it because most of it was stolen).

Seems Pooty Pants still has some kind of hold on Trumpy tho.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-21 10:45 AM | Reply

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