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Mike German, an ex-FBI agent, said immigration agents hiding their identities 'highlights the illegitimacy of actions'

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OPINION by @jarvisdeberry.bsky.social:

Jarvis highlights why ICE agents' masks are especially disturbing.

"The basic principle is that the police are accountable to the public. And that requires, at a minimum, knowing who the police are."

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Across the country, armed federal immigration officers have increasingly hidden their identities while carrying out immigration raids, arresting protesters and roughing up prominent Democratic critics.

It's a trend that has sparked alarm among civil rights and law enforcement experts alike.

Mike German, a former FBI agent, said officers' widespread use of masks was unprecedented in US law enforcement and a sign of a rapidly eroding democracy. "Masking symbolizes the drift of law enforcement away from democratic controls," he said.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has insisted masks are necessary to protect officers' privacy, arguing, without providing evidence, that there has been an uptick in violence against agents.

But, German argued, the longterm consequences could be severe. The practice could erode trust in the US law enforcement agencies: "When it's hard to tell who a masked individual is working for, it's hard to accept that that is a legitimate use of authority," he noted.

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2025-06-25 10:31 AM | Reply

"could erode" ????

Little late for that one.

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-06-25 11:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Hi-Yo, Silver! Away! Let's beat the s*** out of some Mexican Muslims, Kapo, er, I mean Tonto!"

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ranger_tonto_2.png

"Say, where's your mask?"

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-25 01:22 PM | Reply

Tonto, eh Kimosabe?

Dumbass, eh dumbass?

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-06-25 03:27 PM | Reply

Any Republicans left who think police should be required to, I dunno, show a badge?

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-25 05:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The masks hide those tats so popular with the boy bands==Proud, Boogaloo and others. Can't have the general population knowing that known terrorist criminal insurrectionists are running the streets at the president's behest...

#6 | Posted by catdog at 2025-06-26 08:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you are so afraid of your actions that you have to hide your face and identity, you are a piece of ----.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-06-26 09:34 AM | Reply

It's because they were being doxxed, putting these agents and their families in danger.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-26 04:52 PM | Reply

"It's because they were being doxxed, putting these agents and their families in danger."

That's not a good enough reason. It's always been a dangerous job. They're free to go back to living in Mom's Basement if they can't handle the work environment.

According to you, they are going after some of the most dangerous violent criminals the world has ever seen

Public servants are public and we deserve to know their names.

By your logic, all governemt employers should be anonymous, to protect their families.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-26 05:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's because they were being doxxed, putting these agents and their families in danger.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger

1403 ICE agents were killed in 2024

Oh wait, that was children due to guns

Checks, records

1 ICE agent died in 2024

from cancer

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-26 05:59 PM | Reply

It's because we live in a free society, putting these agents and their families in danger.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-26 06:33 PM | Reply

Alarming rise of US officers hiding behind masks: 'A police state'

OMG! that's because the LEFT is Doxxing them!

#12 | Posted by Maverick at 2025-06-26 06:43 PM | Reply

"that's because the LEFT is Doxxing them!"

You don't think the public has a right to know who is getting government money?

Yes you do.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-26 07:13 PM | Reply

Are these American or Russian federal law-enforcement personnel?

https://democracychronicles.org/wp-content/uploads/russia-police.jpg

#14 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-26 07:16 PM | Reply

ICE arrested a 6-year-old boy with leukemia at immigration court. His family is suing.
www.tpr.org

The link shows four ICE agents hiding behind masks.

Now why would you think it's a good idea to hide behind masks, when arresting a six year old child with cancer?

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-26 07:22 PM | Reply

"They were crying in fear. One of the agents at one point lifted up his shirt, which displayed the gun that he was carrying," Mukherjee said. "The 6-year-old boy was terrified to see the gun. He urinated on himself and wet all his clothing. No one offered him a change of clothing for many hours."

Why would people who treat children this way want to remain hidden?
They would never have to buy another drink in their life if they just go to Republican bars.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-26 07:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The family had been staying with a relative in Los Angeles for the previous seven months after crossing the border legally for a court appointment through the now-defunct CBP One App to seek asylum in October of last year. They had been granted parole status in the U.S. while they waited for their day in immigration court"

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-26 07:24 PM | Reply

It's because they were being doxxed,
#8 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

that's because the LEFT is Doxxing them!
#12 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

You ------- getting your talking points from the same X.com account?

Also, ---- the Gestapo.

And ---- you for supporting them.

You ------- Nazis.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-26 07:44 PM | Reply

that's because the LEFT is Doxxing them!
#12 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

The left is Doxxing them because they are acting illegally.

People like you and JeffJ used to say we are a nation of laws.

Now, you cheer for the police who violate the law.

"Hundreds, if not thousands, of law-abiding noncitizens have been arrested in immigration courts in recent weeks, despite a federal court ruling that the new ICE courthouse arrest policy is unlawful and unconstitutional"

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-26 07:54 PM | Reply

" 1 ICE agent died in 2024

from cancer
#10 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-06-26 05:59 PM | FLAG: "

Good That no ICE agents dies in the line of duty in 2024 is a good thing, yes?

Further, they are at ,uh more risk now than a year ago.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-26 11:25 PM | Reply

Clownshack,

I would love to see you act like a tough guy in person.

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-26 11:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#21 | Posted by BellRinger

So your response to a keyboard warrior is to also be a key board warrior? Hilarious ----, cultist.

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-06-26 11:28 PM | Reply

"Cultist"

*Drink*

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-26 11:32 PM | Reply

ICE arrested a child who is here legally.

Drink!

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-26 11:45 PM | Reply

"Further, they are at ,uh more risk now than a year ago."

ICE agents are engaged in illegal activity.

Illegal activity creates increased risk, to both the illegal actors and the law-abiding community on whom they prey.

"Hundreds, if not thousands, of law-abiding noncitizens have been arrested in immigration courts in recent weeks, despite a federal court ruling that the new ICE courthouse arrest policy is unlawful and unconstitutional"

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-26 11:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Calling a Nazis and Nazis is the act of a keyboard warrior?

Weird times we in.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-27 01:28 AM | Reply

"Cultist"
*Drink*

Here's to hoping it is cyanide-laced flavor aid.

#27 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-06-27 01:40 AM | Reply

HI CULTIST!!!

#28 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-06-27 01:59 AM | Reply

Cultist drinker thinks everyone should just submit to random looking guys in masks.

#29 | Posted by cbob at 2025-06-27 06:26 AM | Reply

" Cultist drinker thinks everyone should just submit to random looking guys in masks.

#29 | POSTED BY CBOB AT 2025-06-27 06:26 AM | REPLY | FLAG:"

That's not what I said.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-27 12:43 PM | Reply

everyone should just submit to random looking guys in masks.

#29 | POSTED BY CBOB AT

That's not what I said.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger

But you're going alone with that.

If an armed, masked and unidentified man in dress-up tries to assault me on a city street, or in my home, I have the right to shoot him in self-defense.

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-27 12:52 PM | Reply

everyone should just submit to random looking guys in masks.

#29 | POSTED BY CBOB AT

That's not what I said.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger

But you're going along with that.

If an armed, masked and unidentified man in dress-up tries to assault me on a city street, or in my home, I have the right to shoot him in self-defense.

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-27 12:53 PM | Reply

People aren't being assaulted.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-27 12:56 PM | Reply

"People aren't being assaulted."

---- yes they are. It is on video.

Nice "vranyo". I know you know what that means, you don't even have to translate it as it is in your native language.

#34 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-06-27 05:39 PM | Reply

"People aren't being assaulted."

You're a man who believes in the law -- or so you once pretended.
The law states people are being assaulted, then kidnapped by ICE:

"Hundreds, if not thousands, of law-abiding noncitizens have been arrested in immigration courts in recent weeks, despite a federal court ruling that the new ICE courthouse arrest policy is unlawful and unconstitutional"

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-27 05:44 PM | Reply

People aren't being assaulted.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger

Liar

www.youtube.com

father of 3 US marines beaten by ICE agents

Is anyone surprised that jeff is lying?

#36 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-27 05:53 PM | Reply

Republicans say it wasn't assault, what the cops did to George Floyd.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-27 06:19 PM | Reply

@#33 ... People aren't being assaulted. ...

Yes, they are.

assault and battery
www.law.cornell.edu

... Assault and battery is a modern legal term which combines assault with the separate charge of battery.

Assault refers to the wrong act of causing someone to reasonably fear imminent harm. This means that the fear must be something a reasonable person would foresee as threatening to them.

Battery refers to the actual wrong act of physically harming someone. ...


#38 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-27 06:42 PM | Reply

@#38

So, it seems...

Assault does not mean physical contact, just a threat.

Battery means physical contact/harm.

(I am not a lawyer, so take this FWIW.)



#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-27 06:46 PM | Reply

This is the result of Democrat fascists, media, and politicians who truly hate every American specially law enforcement.

#40 | Posted by Robson at 2025-06-27 07:35 PM | Reply

When Democrat politicians tell their criminal lowlife supporters to attack citizens and law enforcers this is the inevitable outcome. If this continues it won't be long until peaceful citizens will have had enough of the haters and and trouble makers and will find it necessary to clean up the problem of losers that hate peace and quiet. That is when we will demand a society where the needs of people come first, not the actions of corrupt politicians or antifa that do nothing.

#41 | Posted by Robson at 2025-06-27 07:44 PM | Reply

"When Democrat politicians tell their criminal lowlife supporters to attack citizens and law enforcers"

I don't recall being told that...
Can you forward me that memo?
Thanks.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-27 07:52 PM | Reply

The people fervently supporting masks as matter of principle today.

Were vehemently opposed to masks as a matter of principle just five years ago.

It was never about the masks.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-27 08:01 PM | Reply

@#40 ... This is the result of Democrat fascists, media, and politicians who truly hate every American specially law enforcement. ...

If that were true, then I'd suspect your current alias might have something to say about the Trump supporters who attacked law enforcement on J6.

So, what else yer current alias got in its quiver? That one was quite lame.

I'll wait ....

#44 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-27 08:24 PM | Reply

"#36 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-06-27 05:53 PM | FLAG: "

One of the most dishonest persons in the legacy media showing a clip that provides zero context. What was going on prior to this guy being in the ground? Video doesn't show it? Was he armed? Was he assaulting officers prior to being on tjdd ed ground? The video started at that point in time for a reason. It's for a narrative, not actual news reporting.

#45 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-28 12:11 PM | Reply

"#36 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-06-27 05:53 PM | FLAG: "

One of the most dishonest persons in the legacy media showing a clip that provides zero context. What was going on prior to this guy being in the ground? Video doesn't show it? Was he armed? Was he assaulting officers prior to being on tjdd ed ground? The video started at that point in time for a reason. It's for a narrative, not actual news reporting.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-28 12:14 PM | Reply

"#36 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-06-27 05:53 PM | FLAG: "

One of the most dishonest persons in the legacy media showing a clip that provides zero context. What was going on prior to this guy being in the ground? Video doesn't show it? Was he armed? Was he assaulting officers prior to being on tjdd ed ground? The video started at that point in time for a reason. It's for a narrative, not actual news reporting.

#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-28 12:26 PM | Reply

No, idiot, he wasn't assaulting the ICE thugs before being beaten

www.foxnews.com

"The video shows him vaguely waving a weed whacker at someone far outside his reach, as he runs away from people he says didn't identify themselves or even say anything as they ran at him. That is not assault under any definition of the term. And it doesn't merit BEING BEATEN," Reichlin-Melnick responded in a repost of the video.

And of course, being punched on the ground when fully restrained is of course never acceptable

except to vile scum like you jeff

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-28 12:57 PM | Reply

No, idiot, he wasn't assaulting the ICE thugs before being beaten

www.foxnews.com

"The video shows him vaguely waving a weed whacker at someone far outside his reach, as he runs away from people he says didn't identify themselves or even say anything as they ran at him. That is not assault under any definition of the term. And it doesn't merit BEING BEATEN," Reichlin-Melnick responded in a repost of the video.

And of course, being punched on the ground when fully restrained is of course never acceptable

except to vile scum like you jeff

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-28 12:57 PM | Reply

How about I come at you with a weed whacker. You act like it's totally acceptable. Because you are a vile POS.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-28 01:14 PM | Reply

How about I come at you with a weed whacker.
#50 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

You'd be winded after ten feet and we'd need to call an ambulance to provide you with life support.

Fatty.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-28 01:19 PM | Reply

How about I come at you with a weed whacker. You act like it's totally acceptable. Because you are a vile POS.

#52 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-28 01:25 PM | Reply

How about I come at you with a weed whacker.

#52 | Posted by BellRinger at 20

If you are masked and in cammo, I might shoot you.

Otherwize I'm going to laugh at your silly ass, you snowflake.

#53 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-28 02:44 PM | Reply

How about I come at you with a weed whacker.

#52 | Posted by BellRinger at 20

If you are masked and in cammo, I might shoot you.

Otherwize I'm going to laugh at your silly ass, you snowflake.

#54 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-28 02:44 PM | Reply

It's hilarious that old man with an alleged weed wacker, outnumbered six to one by heavily armed men, is considered a threat.

Jesus, and MAGA worries aoput the masculinity of other people.

#55 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-28 02:47 PM | Reply

What was going on prior to this guy being in the ground? Video doesn't show it? Was he armed? Was he assaulting officers prior to being on tjdd ed ground? The video started at that point in time for a reason. It's for a narrative, not actual news reporting.
#46 | Posted by BellRinger

^
What a coincidence, this is exactly what you said about Rodney King and Eric Garner and George Floyd.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-28 02:48 PM | Reply

Brandishing a weed whacker.

Reminds me of this one.

Black man collecting trash from his OWN yard is confronted by at least FIVE cops yelling at him to 'put down your weapon' even though he was only carrying a litter-picker
www.dailymail.co.uk

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-28 02:49 PM | Reply

So I guess Sed in the in "attack with a weed whacker is no big deal" camp.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-28 03:09 PM | Reply

It's not an attack when it's self-defense.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-28 03:10 PM | Reply

Facts

man was landscaping

a bunch of armed, masked men jump out of unmarked cars and start screaming at him

He is holding a weed whacker

He waves the weed whacker in the general direction of the masked men-NO WHERE NEAR THEM

He runs in terror

He is sprayed with pepper spray

He is tackled to the ground

His hands are placed behind his back

Multiple ICE thugs are on top of him and holding him down

Only then did an ICE agent BEGIN punching him in the head

You have been informed and educated. Be a better person.

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-28 03:16 PM | Reply

So I guess Sed in the in "attack with a weed whacker is no big deal" camp.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger a

He attacked no one with a weed whacker, liar

When he was punched in the head he no longer had the weed whacker on him,

In fact, when the ICE thugs BEGAN punching him he was pinned to the ground by multiple ICE thugs with his hands behind his back

Only scum defend the ICE thugs

And again, this began with your assertion:

People aren't being assaulted.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger

You lied, liar.

#61 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-28 03:19 PM | Reply

www.youtube.com

starting at 5:56 shows what happened leading up to the father of 3 US marines being assaulted by ICE thugs

He was carrying a weed whacker

HE DID NOT EVEN WAVE IT AT ANYONE, HE WAS HOLDING IT UNTIL HE WAS TACKLED AND HE DROPPED IT

so, just another lie by jeff

jeff you are a lying piece of ---- scumbag

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-28 03:23 PM | Reply

Jeff is a liar

#63 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-28 03:26 PM | Reply

I see that by posting facts I demonstrated that I was right

Like always

Truth Hurts

#64 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-06-28 05:01 PM | Reply

None of what you described is shown in the video you linked. If you have actual video footage that supports what you e described I will retract.

#65 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-28 09:43 PM | Reply

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