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FDA plans possible black box warning for COVID-19 shots amid rare heart risk reports; studies say the virus carries a higher threat.

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The FDA is reportedly considering the addition of high-level warning labels to COVID vaccines, a move that some experts say may cause unfounded concerns over safety

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-- Scientific American (@sciam.bsky.social) Dec 12, 2025 at 2:25 PM

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... The move would follow the FDA's requirement for updated warning labels on mRNA COVID-19 vaccines regarding myocarditis and pericarditis. The vaccines have been associated with a rare risk of myocarditis, which causes damage to heart muscle cells.

Earlier this week, Stanford University released a study showing that mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines cause myocarditis in about one in every 140,000 recipients after the first dose. That rate rises to one in 32,000 after the second dose. Males under age 30 face the highest risk.

The study, however, found that COVID-19 itself is 10 times more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-15 12:34 AM | Reply

The FDA is now a joke

#2 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-12-15 05:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Everything attached to the "executive" branch is a joke.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-12-15 03:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

While the FDA wants stronger warnings on beneficial vaccines, RFK Jr wants to reduce warning labels on our food supplements:
RFK Jr Wants Us Sick or Dead

The nefarious Trumpf junta wants Americans sick, unvaccinated, wounded by firearms, exposed to radiation or Monsanto chemicals, undernourished, or food-poisoned, because in our horrendous privatized healthcare system, we represent pure profits for the CEOs and oligarchs.

That's why Republicans will never allow the US to be like Germany, Israel, Canada, the UK, or Australia whose residents enjoy universal healthcare and the term "medical bankruptcy" is unheard of.

Our sickness is their profit.


#4 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-15 04:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are you little girls still getting covid shots? LOL what you up to now 20 pokes.

#5 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-12-15 05:47 PM | Reply

Man oh man, between dodging the vaccine and mainlining horse paste, the population of Okiehomie will fall below that needed to allow the place to be classified as a state. The first Americans will again be in charge there. All we need is another'Rona outbreak and that dream will come true ...

#6 | Posted by catdog at 2025-12-15 06:30 PM | Reply

I am not listening to someone who looks like a boiled catchers mitt over my doctor who has been in practice for 30 years.

The US is now on the verge of losing it's status of having eliminated measels because of these anti vax idiots.

The FDA is now a joke

Everything in this administration is a joke.

Sadly the public is suffering because of it.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-12-16 08:34 AM | Reply

LOL what you up to now 20 pokes.

#5 | POSTED BY FORTFISHER

Flu shots are offered annually. But not for the same flu as last year.

Let's hear your Toxic Dr Demento take on that.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-16 10:18 AM | Reply

Bet you still wear a mask.

#9 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-12-16 10:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Flu shots are offered annually."

I don't know any healthy people who had to take time off from work to recover from the side effects of a flu shot, because they literally couldn't drive or focus or lift anything. I know plenty who've had to after (the mrna version of) the Covid vaccine.

#10 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-12-16 10:45 AM | Reply

Whatever. COVID is a lot worse than the COVID vaccine.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-16 10:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I know plenty who've had to after (the mrna version of) the Covid vaccine.

POSTED BY SENTINEL

Sure you do. During COVID there was a generous leave policy for anything COVID related. I am sure that had nothing to do with it.

I got the MNRA shot about 5 times. Not once did I need to take off work because of it. But if someone said I could take time off then of course I certainly would! I have a family.

BTW- I think we just found the "little girls" Fartfisher is talking about.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-16 10:57 AM | Reply

Re 12

mRNA*

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-16 10:59 AM | Reply

#12- FOAD, you worthless POS.

#14 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-12-16 11:00 AM | Reply

I felt too sick to work for two days after the second Moderna shot.

Just sayin'.

It was scary actually.

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-16 11:05 AM | Reply

I never got any extra paid time off for getting a Covid shot. I did when I had to isolate after I was exposed in 2020. They stopped offering extra paid leave even for people who contracted the virus a couple years after the pandemic started.

#16 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-12-16 11:05 AM | Reply

I got No paid time off when I felt ill.

They just didn't fire me for it, though some others who did the same were.

I never knew if that was illegal or not.

Low level jobs don't give a ---- about the workers.

Period.

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-16 11:12 AM | Reply

-I got No paid time off when I felt ill.

you don't have any paid sick leave where you work?

or just straight PTO?

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-16 11:24 AM | Reply

I know plenty who've had to after (the mrna version of) the Covid vaccine.

I know of no one, personally, that had that experience. No one I actually know. That's a sizeable group of people in my life.

I've never had that experience. My reaction has been about the same as when I get a flu shot. Perhaps a little higher resting heart rate for a few hours, but otherwise I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary.

I missed the vaccine this year and was going to get it - it'd been a year - and I managed to get COVID before I was able to get the vaccine. COVID was brutal. There's no way I'm going to miss getting vaccinated.

Same with the flu. I got the flu every year for years before I finally started getting the influenza vaccine. I almost never get the flu now. I will not miss getting a flu vaccine. Being sick with either COVID or the flu is way way worse than any insignificant discomfort from the vaccine.

#19 | Posted by YAV at 2025-12-16 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I know plenty who've had to after (the mrna version of) the Covid vaccine.

via GIPHY

#20 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-12-16 11:51 AM | Reply

"I missed the vaccine this year and was going to get it - it'd been a year - and I managed to get COVID before I was able to get the vaccine. COVID was brutal. There's no way I'm going to miss getting vaccinated."

Nobody's trying to force you to miss getting vaccinated. It's really not cool to gaslight people about their own lived experiences and traumas, and it certainly doesn't help to build trust.

#21 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-12-16 11:55 AM | Reply

#20- FOAD, you worthless POS.

#22 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-12-16 11:56 AM | Reply

it certainly doesn't help to build trust.

POSTED BY SENTINEL

I trust you as far as I can throw you.

I have no faith or trust in anything coming from this administration or its enablers at all. Zero. Zilch. None.

Not unless or until anything they say about anything they put forward is verified by at least 2 reliable sources.

And you ain't one of them.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-16 12:05 PM | Reply

Bet you still wear a mask.

#9 | POSTED BY FORTFISHER

I bet you sniff your own farts Fartsniffer.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-16 12:12 PM | Reply

-But if someone said I could take time off then of course I certainly would!

You're one of those folks who feel compelled to utilize all paid time off for sick, even when you're not?

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-16 12:25 PM | Reply

It's really not cool to gaslight people about their own lived experiences and traumas, and it certainly doesn't help to build trust.

#21 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

It's not about trust. (You haven't even come close to earning that from me) It's about facts and the alternate realities that we chose to live in these days.

Have you seen what's happening in America? The amount of disinformation and misinformation out there these days is staggering. It's a public health nightmare and catastrophe. The next severe pandemic may be our last.

One personal anecdote vs another really means nothing and is completely unscientific.

Especially since you left out so many potential variables.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-16 12:29 PM | Reply

Nobody's trying to force you to miss getting vaccinated. It's really not cool to gaslight people about their own lived experiences and traumas, and it certainly doesn't help to build trust.

You have no idea what gaslighting is if you think what I wrote was that. What you just did, however, was attempted gaslighting.
You shared what you said was your life experience without any qualifications.
I shared mine with explicit qualification. Just as valid as yours. I didn't discount your experience, in fact.
Then you come back with that and try and discredit my personal and qualified history, and call it 'gaslighting.'

That, Sentinel, was gaslighting on your part.

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2025-12-16 12:43 PM | Reply

I assumed Sentinel was kidding about the "trust" part.....being a smart ass.

I could be wrong, however.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-16 12:46 PM | Reply

"You have no idea what gaslighting is if you think what I wrote was that. "

No. I was referring comments like #12 and 20, not what you wrote.

#29 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-12-16 12:54 PM | Reply

No. I was referring comments like #12 and 20, not what you wrote.

In #21 you quoted #19 from me and responded directly to what I'd written. I'd said nothing in this thread before that.

#30 | Posted by YAV at 2025-12-16 01:00 PM | Reply

Bet you still wear a mask.

#9 | POSTED BY FORTFISHER

Bet you're still a stupid, worthless sack of s^*%.

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-16 06:14 PM | Reply

"Bet you still wear a mask."

He joined ICE and is ashamed of being recognized?

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-16 06:23 PM | Reply

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