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Marvin Gaye's What's Going On... #1 Album Rolling Stones Top 500 Albums All Time 2023 (thread link)

"Tops' bass singer, watched TV coverage of hundreds of club-wielding cops breaking up the People's Park, a protest hub in Berkeley. Aghast at the violence, Benson began to write a song with Motown lyricist Al Cleveland, trying to capture the confusion and pain of the times.

He knew he had something big in his nascent version of "What's Going On," but the rest of the Four Tops weren't interested, and Benson's efforts to get Joan Baez to record it didn't work out, either.
(more on the genesis of this song at the thread link)

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full studio album

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Marvin Gaye - What's Going On (Official Video 2019)

Marvin Gaye
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#1 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 04:46 PM | Reply

#1 | Posted by Corky

The story of the fight between Barry Gordy and Marvin Gaye over the release of this album is an interesting read.

#2 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-13 04:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Mother, mother
There's too many of you crying
Brother, brother, brother
There's far too many of you dying
You know we've got to find a way
To bring some lovin' here today, yeah

Father, father
We don't need to escalate
You see, war is not the answer
For only love can conquer hate
You know we've got to find a way
To bring some lovin' here today

Picket lines and picket signs
Don't punish me with brutality
Talk to me
So you can see

Oh, what's going on (What's going on)
What's going on (What's going on)
What's going on (What's going on)
What's going on (What's going on)
Right on, baby
Right on, baby
Right on

Mother, mother
Everybody thinks we're wrong
Oh, but who are they to judge us
Simply 'cause our hair is long
Oh, you know we've got to find a way
To bring some understanding here today

Picket lines and picket signs
Don't punish me with brutality
Come on talk to me
So you can see

What's going on (What's going on)
Yeah, what's going on (What's going on)
Tell me what's going on (What's going on)
I'll tell you, what's going on (What's going on)
Right on, baby, right on
Right on, baby
Right on, baby, right on

Source: Musixmatch
Songwriters: Marvin Gaye / Renaldo Benson / Alfred Cleveland

here's a couple of kids listening to the album today

www.youtube.com

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 04:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

(restart the link in #3, because my Editor sucks!)

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 04:56 PM | Reply

The story of the fight between Barry Gordy and Marvin Gaye over the release of this album is an interesting read.

#2 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-13 04:53 PM | Reply | Flag: Thanks, I'll check it out after we play Spades tonight.

Sidenote: "Islands in the Stream" was originally a Motown creation which didn't work out, so they gave it to the country-western folks.

#5 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-13 05:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sidenote: "Islands in the Stream" was originally a Motown creation which didn't work out, so they gave it to the country-western folks.

#5 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

You're partially right.

It was written by the BeeGees Gibbs, originally intended for Marvin Gaye.

#6 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-13 05:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If we ever talk privately I'll share some insider info about Motown/Marvin Gaye.

#7 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-13 05:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sir Barry Gibb wrote a lot of great songs for a lot of great artists.

"As a songwriter, he shares with John Lennon and Paul McCartney the record for most consecutive Billboard Hot 100 number ones, each having six. In total, he has written or co-written sixteen Billboard Hot 100 number ones."

Also a writer with his brothers of the only song to come with a, "-------- Free Pass"!

www.youtube.com

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 05:45 PM | Reply

Ah, thanks for that info, AU.

Here's a soothing track from that timeframe and composer. Neatly produced: www.youtube.com

I played Bridge the other day, came in second place.

Now off to play Spades.

Nil!

BTW: I shared a common acquaintance with this 80s rocker, but this arena rockster didn't share any insider info with me. Our photograph is hanging in my kitchen: cdn.shopify.com

#9 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-13 06:02 PM | Reply

#9 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

You're welcome :-) Good luck at the table tonight!

#10 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-13 06:04 PM | Reply

OK, not in the same league as Marvin Gaye's What's Going On, this song has some lyrics that caught my attention ...

Five for Fighting - Easy Tonight (2001)
www.youtube.com

And the lyrics I noted are...

genius.com

...
Don't know where I'm going yet, no
But I sure am getting there
...

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-13 06:10 PM | Reply

And, paraphrasing what Sec Hegseth says to our Free Press...

Comateens - Get Off My Case (1983)
www.youtube.com

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-13 06:15 PM | Reply

And Now for Something Completely Different:

www.youtube.com

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 07:04 PM | Reply

- a, "-------- Free Pass"!

I've been Censored!! (get it Censored, like the poster Censored?)

Damn that DR Hamster... Curses, foiled again!

otoh:

"She's A Rainbow" (Official Lyric Video)

www.youtube.com

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 07:40 PM | Reply

Pres Trump to his MAGA cult ...

Edelweiss - Bring Me Edelweiss (Tourist version) (1988)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
So when you really love me
Darling, bring me Edelweiss (Uh-oh)
So when you really love me
You should bring me edelweiss (Uh-oh)
...

[yeah, a rock song that has Swiss yodeling in it.]

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-13 08:13 PM | Reply

Stevie Ray Vaughan - I'm Goin' Down (with Jeff Beck) 10/28/1989

SRVMusicVideo

www.youtube.com

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 08:14 PM | Reply

Semisonic - Down In Flames (1996)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
t's not the pain, that I'm used to it
It's feeling like I'm already dead
I see from a ceiling of misty spirit
Rising from a place in my head

And I never even get to go down
Down in flames

I said, friend you have a life to see
Why do you want to scare me so?
All the suffering and mystery me
I can't even pretend to know

So you never even get to go down
Down in flames
You never even get to go down
Down in flames

We had plans to explore the stars
Be rejected by stage door guards
Mining for gold, the time unreels
Not stifling behind Suburban wheels
Not stifling behind Suburban wheels, yeah

The plan was to burn up when the air was clear
We'd all wear our visors down
An arc welder's spark in the atmosphere
Not this man-sized hole in the ground
...


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-13 08:26 PM | Reply

"What's Goin' On" - Weather Report

www.youtube.com

#18 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-03-13 08:30 PM | Reply

"Weather Report was a pioneering American jazz fusion band (1970"1986) co-led by Joe Zawinul and Wayne Shorter, known for hits like "Birdland" and albums such as Heavy Weather.

While they featured virtuoso bassist Jaco Pastorius, the band is distinct from the North Texas State University Lab Band, which recorded under director Leon Breeden in the 1970s." (Rogers' alma mater as I recall.)

There was some good jazz fusion bands who influenced pop from the late 70s, early 80s.

Popsicle Toes - Michael Franks

www.youtube.com

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 08:59 PM | Reply

@#19 ... Popsicle Toes - Michael Franks...

A fav song for me.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-13 09:17 PM | Reply

Me too, my wife and I.

That, and some Steely Dan.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 09:47 PM | Reply

Popsicle Toes - Michael Franks

"When my baby eats her eggplant ..."

Timeless tune.

Jaco used to play Tuesday nights at a jazz club in in Studio City called The Baked Potato with other top studio musicians. He didn't know how to read music - in an era where arrangers wrote out notation - but made it as a first call studio bassist anyway.

#22 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-13 09:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For you guys who like fusion, check out Dirty Loops. Currently touring. Vocals and musicianship are top notch!

Hit Me - Dirty Loops
https:
//www.youtube.com/@dirtyloops/videos

More on their YouTube channel.

#23 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-13 09:57 PM | Reply

@#21 ... some Steely Dan. ...

Oh, don't get me started ...

:)

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-13 09:57 PM | Reply

About the time in '76 when Joni was getting jazzy with Pat Metheny

www.youtube.com

I saw her with Tom Scott and LA Express around then in CA:

www.youtube.com

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 09:58 PM | Reply

@#19 ... "Weather Report was a pioneering American jazz fusion band (1970 - 1986) co-led by Joe Zawinul and Wayne Shorter, known for hits like "Birdland" and albums such as Heavy Weather. ...

Back in 1997 when the Hale-Bopp comet appeared in our sky, the local college radio station played the song, Scarlet Woman ( www.youtube.com ) a lot.

A lot.

The song is from Weather Report's Mysterious Traveler (1974) album.

So, apropos...


#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-13 10:05 PM | Reply

Traffic (feat. Steve Winwood) - Roamin' Thro' the Gloamin with 40,000 Headmen (1973) | LIVE

www.youtube.com

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-13 10:12 PM | Reply

imo, a powerful tune ...

Call - I Don't Wanna (1987)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
I ain't here to hold you when you cry
I ain't here to hold your shaky hand
I ain't here to look you in the eye
Or beg for you to understand

I ain't gonna walk you thru your dreams
Walk you thru this life that we all know
I ain't here to listen while you speak
I ain't here to heal your broken soul
Am I here at all?

I ain't here to tell you what you need
I ain't gonna take a noble stand
I ain't here to look you in the eye
Or beg for you to understand

I can only tell you what I've seen
I can only tell you how it felt
When my heart was crushed so bad inside
Till I felt the hatred slowly melt
I don't wanna

I ain't gonna watch your every move
I ain't gonna dog your every step
I ain't here to shape your every mood
I ain't here to keep your secrets kept

Oh, but if I held you in my arms
If I could squeeze you till we cry
I don't wanna lose this love I feel
I don't wanna lose this fight tonight
I ain't gonna

I ain't here to hold you when you cry
I ain't here to hold your shaky hand
I ain't here to look you in the eye
I don't want you under my command
...


#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-13 11:50 PM | Reply

@#27 ... Steve Winwood ...

Yeah, he entered the Hall of Fame a while ago for his work in Traffic.

Here's a video he is in that I enjoy ...

2021 Remaster "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" with Prince, Tom Petty, Jeff Lynne and Steve Winwood
www.youtube.com

And then, there is all his work in Traffic.

Don't get me started ...


#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-14 01:30 AM | Reply

@#21 ... some Steely Dan. ...

Oh, don't get me started ...

:)

Posted by LampLighter

Michael McDonald's been a friend of mine for many years. I already knew Steely Dan would typically record 4 and sometimes 5 different drummers on a track, or a couple different horn arrangements, whatever, and choose which one they'd use at a later point in time. Every song a long process of addition and elimination.

Mike told me he was in the studio doing background vocals for 2 days because those guys were so picky.

A few years ago I while at Mike's studio while doing some overdubs, asked me if I'd help him with something when the session was over.

What he wanted was my opinion on which of his 4 Fender Rhodes electric pianos was the best, IMO. Now, Mike hadn't sold a piece of gear ... ever. Still had every keyboard, mic, etc he ever bought.

We set 'em up in the main room. I started playing the intro lick to Peg on the keys. Using a voice like you'd hear in an ad for a local electronics store sale, I said "Come on down to Michael McDonald's Fender Rhodes world! We're moving 'em out! We will NOT be undersold!" etc. "Tell 'em, Michael!" "We will not be undersold!" he sang. "What's that number to call, Michael" ... he sings "4321 PEG" Laughter ensued.

I asked him a couple years ago if he's sold any more gear. With a sheepish chuckle, "Nope." LOL

What a classic voice. And what a nice guy!

#30 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 01:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mike told me he was in the studio doing background vocals for 2 days ... working on Peg.

Another friend's played on several Steely Dan cuts. Same deal where 3 or 4 other drummers played on the same song.

#31 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 01:37 AM | Reply

@#30 ... Michael McDonald's been a friend of mine for many years. ...

My opinion is that when Michael McDonald took over the Doobie Brothers, the group lost its way.

imo, his vocals suck (too hoarse), and the direction he brought to the group made them more overly-sweet pop-music than their prior innovative progressive/alternative music.

As a result, I enjoy the albums of the Doobie Brothers that I have from the pre-Mcdonald era.

Apologies for saying that about a friend of yours. Nothing directed to him personally, but more towards his [imo, misguided] professional aspirations.

OK, I'll go away quietly now on this ...



#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-14 01:47 AM | Reply

About the time in '76 when Joni was getting jazzy with Pat Metheny

CORKY

Remember the Joni album "Mingus" featuring her lyrics and melodies by Charles Mingus?

IIRC, also Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Jaco (of course), and (?)

#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 01:54 AM | Reply

OK, here is a sample of who I consider to be excellent rock vocalists ...

k.d. lang & Roy Orbison - Crying
www.youtube.com


#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-14 02:02 AM | Reply

#32 | Posted by LampLighter

No problem at all :-) A matter of personal taste. I like pre-Michael Doobies just as much. The band didn't have much choice. New singer or bust due to Tom Johnson's personal demons. Since he was the lead singer, not much to do but have someone else take that role ... Kinda worked out for them.

#35 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 02:04 AM | Reply

#34 | Posted by LampLighter

It was impressive how well Orbison's voice held out late into his life. He could still hit the high notes clear as a bell.

#36 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 02:08 AM | Reply

@#27 ... Steve Winwood ...

Yeah, he entered the Hall of Fame a while ago for his work in Traffic.

I wore out a couple copies of The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys

#37 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 02:16 AM | Reply

@#36 ... It was impressive how well Orbison's voice held out late into his life. He could still hit the high notes clear as a bell. ...

Yup.

@#37 ... I wore out a couple copies of The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys ...

Back in the day, when I noticed that I was starting to listen to an album many times, I would put it on tape (7 1/2 ips, Teac tape deck), and I listened to the album from tape.

But I also want to note, I listened to the album, not individual songs, but the album.

As I digitize my vinyl collection (at a 96/24 bit rate), my first pass is to create a digital file per album side. Because that I how I used to listen to albums, a full side at a time.

OK, I'm moving away from this thread's topic, lemme fix that ...


#38 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-14 02:27 AM | Reply

Tony Bennett, k.d. lang - Because of You
www.youtube.com


Excellent vocalists.

#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-14 02:29 AM | Reply

But I also want to note, I listened to the album, not individual songs, but the album.

Same here. Most bands made albums full of good songs. Those were good times! We'd get a new album, read the liner notes, listen front and back, then listen again. The corporate takeover of the music biz led to too many cases of one good song and a bunch of crap to fill the rest of the grooves.

The legendary "music guys" who used to run labels (Mo Ostin of Warner Bros, Ahmet Erteun of Atlantic, others) started having to account to the bean counters for last quarter's profits. Those guys (also Clive Davis) would stick with many now legendary artists/bands if the first or second album didn't meet sales expectations. They cared about the music. And it would usually pay off in the long run.

#40 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 02:37 AM | Reply

Back in the day, when I noticed that I was starting to listen to an album many times, I would put it on tape (7 1/2 ips, Teac tape deck), and I listened to the album from tape.

I was a teenager with no tape deck

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 02:39 AM | Reply

The back story behind the release of What's Going On is interesting ...

You might have to do a lot of Googling to find the whole story, but Gaye reached a point during the battle with Gordy over releasing the album that he told Gordy he'd never make another album if Gordy didn't release it.

#42 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 02:42 AM | Reply

... make another album for Motown

Also, the back story behind some of the recording sessions for the album is full of "what?!" anecdotes. Waking musicians up in the middle of the night to record, song choices and how they came about.

#43 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 02:45 AM | Reply

Manic Street Preachers - If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next (1999)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
This is about the Spanish Civil War, and the idealism of people from around the world who volunteered to be part of the International Brigade fighting Franco's fascist army.

[Verse 1]
The future teaches you to be alone
The present to be afraid and cold
So if I can shoot rabbits
Then I can shoot fascists
Bullets for your brain today
But we'll forget it all again
Monuments put from pen to paper
Turns me into a gutless wonder

[Chorus]
And if you tolerate this, then your children will be next
And if you tolerate this, then your children will be next
Will be next, will be next, will be next

[Verse 2]
Gravity keeps my head down
Or is it maybe shame
At being so young and being so vain?
Holes in your head today
But I'm a pacifist
I've walked La Ramblas
But not with real intent
...


#44 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-14 03:03 AM | Reply

www.youtube.com

Heavyweight Champion of the World - Reverend and the Makers

#45 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-03-14 10:44 AM | Reply

Haircut - Reverend and the Makers

www.youtube.com

#46 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-03-14 10:54 AM | Reply

- I was a teenager with no tape deck

I had one in my '67 Firebird in '69... new 8 track, lol.

Right after I got it, the deck and all the tapes were stolen. The cops came and were asking me the names of the albums on the tapes. One of them was, Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.

When I said it, the Fuzz looked at me and said, "In a goddam what?".

www.youtube.com

#47 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-14 12:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The Fuzz? Egad.

#48 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-03-14 12:11 PM | Reply

You had to be there... ;)

Another warm summer night I was sitting at a red light with no cars or traffic around with Steppenwolf's The Pusher blasting. (GAWDAMthePUSHERMAN!)

I looked over and a car had pulled up next to me.... a car full nuns with shocked looks on their faces!

Good times.

#49 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-14 12:22 PM | Reply

You had to be there... ;)

Were your bell bottoms dragging in the dirt?

#50 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-03-14 12:24 PM | Reply

They weren't bellbottoms if they weren't dragging the dirt!

Looked best with the Indigenous Design flared cuff long sleeve knit pullover... or the Renaissance Fair open neck balloon sleeves linen shirt.

Fashion is dead!

#51 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-14 12:47 PM | Reply

Fashion is dead!

Ok, Linc.

#52 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-03-14 01:02 PM | Reply

Linc? A Mod Squad reference?

The Refreshments, "Mekong."

www.youtube.com

#53 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-03-14 01:07 PM | Reply

#2

someone pee in your Cheerios?

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-14 01:13 PM | Reply

Los Lobos,
"One Time, One Night".
www.youtube.com

#55 | Posted by morris at 2026-03-14 02:33 PM | Reply

The Mothers
www.youtube.com

#56 | Posted by morris at 2026-03-14 02:36 PM | Reply

Steppenwolf. Somebody's going to need to explain to me why this band isn't in the HoF.
www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com

#57 | Posted by morris at 2026-03-14 02:43 PM | Reply

Garfunkel and Oates
www.youtube.com

#58 | Posted by morris at 2026-03-14 02:47 PM | Reply

NSFW

The Blenders
www.youtube.com

Jackie Wilson and LaVern Baker
www.youtube.com

The Treniers
www.youtube.com

The Clovers
www.youtube.com

The Fred Wolff Combo
www.youtube.com

#59 | Posted by morris at 2026-03-14 02:59 PM | Reply

When I said it, the Fuzz looked at me and said, "In a goddam what?".

www.youtube.com

#47 | Posted by Corky

LOL!

#60 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-14 04:08 PM | Reply

Rhiannon Giddens - Wayfaring Stranger

BBC Northern Ireland

www.youtube.com

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-14 04:19 PM | Reply

I had one in my '67 Firebird in '69... new 8 track, lol.

Boomers... why did the 8-track die? Seems better than Cassette, invented around the same time......

#62 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-03-14 04:37 PM | Reply

why did the 8-track die?

You could fix a cassette with a pencil.

#63 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-03-14 05:28 PM | Reply

It was cheaper to produce.

#64 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-14 05:31 PM | Reply

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