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Trump: "I said it could cause a depression. And I said I don't want to be Herbert Hoover ... certainly a lot of bad things could happen."

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-- Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 4:10 PM · Jun 22, 2026

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... "I never want to be the late, great Herbert Hoover," Trump told Marc Caputo on "The Axios Show." Days earlier, at a G-7 press conference in France, he'd said almost the same thing: Of all the presidents he's studied, Hoover is the one he never wanted to become.

It's not a new fear, Axios reported. Trump first raised it privately in 2018, asking aides whether he could fire Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, warning that rate hikes would "turn me into Hoover."

In January 2024, he went further, predicting an economic crash under President Joe Biden and saying he hoped it would hit before the election "because I don't want to be Herbert Hoover."

Biden's campaign seized on the comment, mocking him as "Donald 'Herbert Hoover' Trump."

The comparison clearly stings because it's not entirely unfair. Hoover, the 31st president, was a wealthy businessman elected on promises of executive competence -- much like Trump. ...

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#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-06-22 07:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Does the ghost of Mr. Hoover whisper into Trump's ear, "You know, everyone thinks I was a better president than you already?"

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2026-06-22 07:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

We're going to look at The Great Depression with envy.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-06-22 10:10 PM | Reply

Trump probably thought Herbert Hoover was some kind of genius after hearing Archie Bunker sing wistfully about him in the All In The Family theme song.

These lyrics are contemporary Republican politics to a tee. We hear this stuff daily from Republicans here and in the media:

Those Were The Days

Boy the way Glenn Miller played
Songs that made the hit parade.
Guys like us we had it made,
Those were the days.

And you knew who you were then,
Girls were girls and men were men,
Mister we could use a man
Like Herbert Hoover again.

Didn't need no welfare state,
Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee our old LaSalle ran great.
Those were the days.

source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/allinthefamilylyrics.html

source: www.lyricsondemand.com

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-22 10:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#3

I'm not at the Great Depression point. Yet.

But I do seem a couple of things that concern me.

1) the exuberant expenditure on AI by corporations. Corporations seem to be reducing stock buy-backs because they are draining their cash on AI CapEx expenditures. So, without those buybacks, there seems to be a surplus of shares "out there."

2) corporations starting to realize that their AI expenditures may not have the resulting profits to justify those expenditures.

As I said, concern, not a prediction.




#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-06-22 10:39 PM | Reply

AI is becoming a national security issue as well.

CHIPS Act was supposed to address some of this, unfortunately Trump is incompetent at carrying out plans.

The real challenge is what do we do when AI figures out liberals with theit DEI and Immigration are true engines of economic growth, while Republicans with the racism and relentless pursuit of profit over people is actually bad for the economy.

I mean, Grok is already supposed to be addressing this, but you can't secretly adjust hidden weights to keep the genie in the bottle forever.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-22 11:13 PM | Reply

@#6 ... The real challenge is what do we do when AI figures out liberals with theit DEI and Immigration are true engines of economic growth, while Republicans with the racism and relentless pursuit of profit over people is actually bad for the economy. ...

That depends upon how AI is ~trained.~


For example ...

Police tweak 'biased' facial recognition software (March 2026)
www.bbc.com

... A police force has paused the use of live facial recognition (LFR) cameras after a study found it was statistically more likely to identify black people than other ethnic groups.

Essex Police has used the technology since summer 2024, but the study identified "a potential bias in the positive identification rate" of black people over white people on its watchlist. ...


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-06-22 11:51 PM | Reply

"That depends upon how AI is ~trained.~"

Sure. Train it on Ayn Rand and Thomas Sowell and you'll get something very different than if you train it on actual academic economic publications.

They, uh, aren't going to tell you the intimate details of what it's trained on.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-23 12:23 AM | Reply

Hoover is dead and buried...and one day so will I be gone, and so will Trump...so who cares about our legacies? What matters is looking at the American people as a family, who deserve long and healthy lives, and elevating the 1% to incredible economic heights has to inevitably drop the bottom 30 % to the hell of outcasting and hopeless poverty.

#9 | Posted by Hughmass at 2026-06-23 06:53 AM | Reply

You, Highmass, are looking at this through a perspective informed by the life experience of a mature adult.

And then there is Trump ...

#10 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-06-23 07:17 AM | Reply

He shouldn't be worried about being compared to Hoover.

He is much much worse than him.

#11 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-06-23 07:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Make America Gilded Again

#12 | Posted by morris at 2026-06-23 11:52 AM | Reply

The brain dead orange rapist's 15% unemployment rate was certainly reminiscent of Hoover.

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-06-23 12:54 PM | Reply

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