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Every civilization that has ever existed worshipped something. Not most of them " all of them. And for a long time the academic world told us that meant religion evolved upward " that primitive people invented spirits, those spirits became gods, and monotheism came last as the most sophisticated development.

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That story is wrong.

And the evidence that contradicts it has been sitting in the anthropological and archaeological record for over a century.

In this video we follow the actual evidence " from the oldest human structure ever discovered, to the most isolated cultures on earth, to the linguistic roots of languages that predate recorded history " and show that the world's most ancient religious expressions don't point toward primitive animism groping upward.

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In this video:

"The anthropological case for original monotheism
Gbekli Tepe and what the oldest human structure tells us about the first religion
Wilhelm Schmidt and the Urmonotheismus thesis
The sky father concept across six continents
How urbanization distorted the original knowledge of God
Babel in the biblical narrative and in the archaeological record
Three post-Babel religious streams and what they preserved
The embers that survived " Melchizedek, Job, and the widow of Zarephath"

Scott has some excellent videos on ancient history, including this one with over a million and a half views so far this year:

www.youtube.com

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-23 05:53 PM | Reply

god is a myth cave people tell.

#2 | Posted by Brennnn at 2026-08-23 07:06 PM | Reply

Everyone has opinions... few are good at expressing their rationale.

Which is what I like about Scott.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-23 07:22 PM | Reply

Fighting over the proper fantasy. Wake me when the "winner" is proven.

#4 | Posted by fresno500 at 2026-08-24 05:32 AM | Reply

Life's a circle, not always an ascent.

#5 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-08-24 10:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm just glad #s 2&4 "myth" and "fantasy", kept open minds as they checked out the video... as if.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-24 11:07 AM | Reply

Folks haven't figured it out, but people drawing cave art tens of thousands of years ago in places that were virtually impossible to reach or even light up enough to draw in were up to something. And the ideas for what they were drawing ...

I don't care what, just that it is.

But I don't think they were driven by monotheism. From my own readings.

More interesting to me is the Axial Age.

en.wikipedia.org

#7 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-08-24 11:30 AM | Reply

#7

Interesting indeed...

www.google.com

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-24 12:11 PM | Reply

"over a million and a half views so far this year:"

A million and a half flies can't be wrong!

So ... . Watched the video corky. Not really impressed. Talkers like to hear themselves talk I guess. And they really love rationalizing and justifying their chosen religion.

BTW - I thought it was already clear that Egypt had one of the first monotheistic religions but it was the Pharaoh Akhenaten who tried to promote the first one true god, Aten. So is this guy trying to say Joesph influenced Akhenaten? Of course that's possible. Some do seem to learn from history. While others never do.

Didnt hear any mention of Akhenaten. Who truly tried out monotheism (unsuccessfully) for the first time on a national scale.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-08-24 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Didnt hear any mention of Akhenaten. Who truly tried out monotheism (unsuccessfully) for the first time on a national scale.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy

Indeed. An interesting bit of history many don't know. The back story of before, during, and after is fascinating.

#10 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-08-24 01:06 PM | Reply

A million and a half flies. Excellent.

No reflection on the content, Corky.

#11 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-08-24 01:45 PM | Reply

- rationalizing and justifying

His history is solid, and his conclusions well researched and well reasoned... imnsho, but what do I know, I've only really started studying it 40 years ago.

This is the video about Joseph in Egypt:

www.youtube.com

(restart)

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-24 01:47 PM | Reply

smartasses! you try getting a million and a half views on anything in less than 9 mos!

Maybe naked Rogers Cadenhead vids.... maybe.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-24 01:50 PM | Reply

Properly marketed, you could have onenut doing KPop...

#14 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-08-24 01:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I have a Latter-day Saint acquaintance brought up in the faith who was giving me the narrative of Jesus visiting 500 years before the MidEast. I'd heard all that before and worked on a pretty cynical interpretation of the finding of the golden plates, investigating the times of that era in upstate NY and the debts of the Joseph Smith family.

I am curious to hear more of my friend's telling of it. Beats the indoctrination of 18yo missionaries or trying to figure out the source material.

And if he's sincere, who am I to judge?

#15 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-08-24 02:01 PM | Reply

"If you dig deep enough into the mud of the Nile Delta, you eventually hit a layer of history that makes Egyptologists very uncomfortable.

For 200 years, the timeline of the Bible and the timeline of secular history have been at war. We're told that the patriarchs are myths.

Critics insist there's no evidence for a population of Semitic shepherds living in Egypt during the Middle Kingdom and that the Exodus is a fairy tale because no record exists of a Hebrew slave becoming a prince of Egypt.

But they're looking in the wrong place and they're looking for the wrong man. Scholars often search for a character from a Sunday school flannel board. A boy in a technicolor dream coat who acts nice and forgives his brothers.

But the Joseph of history, the Joseph who actually walked on this earth, he wasn't just a nice guy. He was a master strategist."

and...

"And we're going to look at the face of the man who sold the world to Pharaoh."

There's a glyph for that... of Joseph.

in the above vid

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-24 02:01 PM | Reply

Corky. I've not watched the video and I don't know this source, but always look to who is paying for archaeological research. Some big scandals in the ancient manuscripts world in the last few decades with RW Catholics, like your pals in SW FL, going hunting for new old scrolls ... and just happening to find them.

It's the old draw a dot on the wall, draw a circle around it, and claim a bullseye.

#17 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-08-24 02:19 PM | Reply

But the Joseph of history, the Joseph who actually walked on this earth, he wasn't just a nice guy. He was a master strategist."

Uh huh. And a dreamer. Or more precisely a dream interpreter. And a very smart human. (Gained thru experience.)

Sorry. Smart people (there are a lot of them though out time) are not a proof of God. Even if they attribute those smarts (dream interpretation) to a divine being. And the fact that some stories in the Bible are historical and based in truth does not imply all of them are and in no way proves that the Christian God exists.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-08-24 02:20 PM | Reply

"Throughout time ... "

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-08-24 02:24 PM | Reply

Been reading some books lately from RW Catholic presses about how to be a father like the NT Joseph, about whom zero biographical information appears in the Bible other than his profession.

The father of the Son of the Holy Father as Rorshach blot.

The mixture of somewhat extremist religion and self-help, while remunerative and amusing books for my work, just digs a few rabbit holes deeper.

Then again, the awakened earth mamas who are saying you have to accompany your child through all their feelings while unpacking your own are dangerous on another level.

And I doubt they're in the same mommy wine clubs.

#20 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-08-24 02:27 PM | Reply

"My point once again, is not that those ancient people told literal stories and we are now smart enough to take them symbolically, but that they told them symbolically and we are now dumb enough to take them literally." -- John Dominic Crossan

en.wikipedia.org

#21 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-08-24 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Been reading some books lately from RW Catholic presses

I'll pray for you ;^)

- does not imply all of them are and in no way proves that the Christian God exists.

Evidence is like a flood... it starts with rain, perhaps, then builds, if it is strong enough and vast enough, into a deluge that's hard to ignore... unless one tries just as hard.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-24 02:39 PM | Reply

- take them literally

The vid in 12 is, if you get the chance to watch it, quite detailed in it's archeological evidence.

I do appreciate the people like you and Donner who aren't the knee jerk reactionist types; defending preconceived ideas.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-24 02:44 PM | Reply

I really do not care which invisible imaginary sky guy you waste your time with.
Just keep it to yourself and away from public policy.

#24 | Posted by morris at 2026-08-24 03:14 PM | Reply

I'll pray for you ;^)

And I'll meditate for you.

(Well, actually for me. So I can calmly deal with the chronically religulous.)

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-08-24 03:19 PM | Reply

- away from public policy.

Actual Christianity; the Red Letter Jesus stuff... could be a liberal Dem talking today; 2000 years of Cultural Christianity can do that.

It's the OT-bound, oblivious rwing white nationalists who claim to be Christians while ignoring everything JC said that are the problem... although now even some of those are breaking from the Trump Cult.

-sky fairy

This thread has nothing to do with BJ!

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-24 03:29 PM | Reply

"quite detailed in it's archeological evidence."

Don't get me wrong. It IS evidence. It IS archaeological. And it is important we try and get as much accurate information as possible about our past. And we are still learning and finding out new things about us. When we are not too afraid to face the truth of Reality of our Human Condition because of our religious or cultural indoctrination.

There were many smart humans in our past. And many Gods. Even before there was a Jesus. (Or One Ring to Rule them All.)

Even well after, too.

Some attribute their powers to divine beings divine inspiration or a god or gods. Some do not.

And so it goes..

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-08-24 03:29 PM | Reply

I appreciate you corky! We are finding out new stuff about our past all the time now.

Archeology and especially Egyptology today is very exciting what with all the new tools at their disposal. Lidar, Muon Detectors, AI, Ground Penetrating Radar, advanced DNA analysis and 3D photographic representations have revolutionized the field.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-08-24 03:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Is this Abraham in an ancient Egyptian tomb?

In 1890, archaeologists opened an Egyptian tomb and found something that should have been impossible. Painted on the wall, vibrant and preserved for 4,000 years, was a scene of foreign visitors entering Egypt.

They weren't Egyptian. They were Semitic. They carried advanced weapons, wore multi-colored royal coats, and their leader was identified by a specific name: Abisha.

For over a century, most scholars have treated this as just a generic scene of ancient trade. But what if they missed the most explosive detail of all?

In this episode, we're dusting off the file on the "Abisha" painting to investigate a mystery hiding in plain sight. I'll break down the linguistic clues, the timeline, and the visual evidence that challenges everything we think we know about the book of Genesis.

If this really is Abraham, then we have to completely rewrite our mental image of the Bible's most famous patriarch."

www.youtube.com

Interestingly, the names and dates match; the names mean the same thing in Egyptian and Hebrew... AND they mean the same in Mesopotamian, which is where 'Abraham' was from.

He would have been called Aadian, his Mesopotamian title/name; he wasn't called by his Hebrew name until much later writings.... and this isn't because the two names could sound similar, it's because they have the same meaning.

Also:

"The standard date, and I'm going to take the early date here for Exodus, is roughly 1446 BC. And if you go back 430 years from the law, you land in 1876 BC.
That's the year Abraham enters Canaan. (according to Paul the Apostle)

Genesis says he entered the land, traveled for a bit, and then a famine hit. He went down to Egypt shortly after arriving. So let's look at
the numbers.

Abraham arrives in Egypt approximately 1876 BC. And the Beni
Hassan painting is painted approximately 1878 BC. We're talking about a difference of maybe 2 years.

Historically speaking, that is a bullseye. Even if our calculations are off by a decade or two, which happens all the time in ancient chronology, we're squarely in the same generation.

Abraham and Aisha are contemporaries." (at least)

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-24 06:11 PM | Reply

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