Sunday, June 30, 2024

What SCOTUS Just Did by Overturning Chevron

By overturning Chevron, the Supreme Court has declared war on an administrative state that touches everything from net neutrality to climate change.

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By overturning Chevron, the Supreme Court has declared war on an administrative state that touches everything from net neutrality to climate change.

Yep!

Here's a short video by a charming ------- explaining how this is the lynchpin of the GOP undoing decades of regulation:

@dariarosereal A huge deal #thesupremecourt #chevron ' original sound - Daria Rose

Jill Stein 2024!

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-06-30 04:43 PM

Welp, the embed didn't work, so here's the link.

#2 | Posted by censored at 2024-06-30 04:46 PM

Who should be deciding whether a drug is safe, the scientists at the food and drug administration or judge Matthew Kazmaryk of the Fifth circuit?

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 04:49 PM

The GOP SCOTUS, has basically declared they reside in the jock strap of corporations...

pathetic.

#4 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-06-30 08:50 PM

Overturning settled law after settled law... Arrogance.

#5 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-06-30 09:44 PM

Civilization requires a foundation.

Conservatives are pulling the rug out from under us, by undoing decades of rule-making needed for the orderly function of society.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-30 09:48 PM

Overturning settled law after settled law... Arrogance.

#5 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

A power grab

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 09:53 PM

Any time that power is taken away from unelected bureaucrats is a win for 'We The People'.

#8 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-06-30 11:06 PM

ny time that power is taken away from unelected bureaucrats is a win for 'We The People'.

#8 | POSTED BY MSGT

lol

Do you have ANY clue as whom the power source s being transferred too?

Farking republicans too freaking stupid to live

Seriously how did you live to what ever age you are?

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 11:12 PM

As to whom the power is being transferred

Fat fingers

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-30 11:12 PM

Any time that power is taken away from unelected bureaucrats is a win for 'We The People'.
#8 | POSTED BY MSGT

Police aren't elected.
Defund The Police!

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-01 12:13 AM

@#8 ... Any time that power is taken away from unelected bureaucrats is a win for 'We The People...

Have you really thought that assertion through?

My guess would be, "no."


But I await your reply.

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-01 12:29 AM

This really isn't ultimately a bad thing.

Chevron wasn't a great decision. Letting executive branch agencies effectively create law, including criminal law, is NOT how democracy is supposed to work.

And it's not like Chevron was around for all that long. It happened within my lifetime, and likely the lifetime of most people here. It's from 1984. It was a decision that effectively gave more power to presidents, which isn't a great thing.

Sure, short term it's not going to have great outcomes. But long term having it go away will be better for the country.

#13 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-07-01 07:11 AM

A functional opposition party would rally support nationwide to expand the court and correct the wrongs this court had inflicted upon society. Roe, voting rights, gerrymandering, almost nobody wants what this court is doing and yet Dems can't seem to take the easy W and do a damned thing about it.

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-01 07:47 AM

Letting executive branch agencies effectively create law, including criminal law, is NOT how democracy is supposed to work.

Yeah! We should let unelected judges with no experience in things like engineering or disease control fine-tune our laws instead.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2024-07-01 08:10 AM

OMFG!! THEY JUST RULED IN FAVOR OF TRUMP IMMUNITY!!!
MOST CORRUPT COURT EVER!!!

#16 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-07-01 11:39 AM

" Yeah! We should let unelected judges with no experience in things like engineering or disease control fine-tune our laws instead.

#15 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2024-07-01 08:10 AM | FLAG: |"

That's not what is happening with this ruling. Not at all. Chevron was adjudicated in 1984. The way lefties would have it this country was 3rd world up to that point.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-01 12:08 PM

" A functional opposition party would rally support nationwide to expand the court"

Do you possess any degree of common sense? If Dems were to expand the court, what happens when the pendulum swings and the GOP further expands the court?

The left seeks to destroy any institution it doesn't control.

"We have to save democracy." You people despise democracy.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-01 12:11 PM

Who should be deciding whether a drug is safe, the scientists at the food and drug administration or judge Matthew Kazmaryk of the Fifth circuit?

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 12:12 PM

You people despise democracy.

#18 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

No jeff, we just despise corrupt, insurrectionist, rapist, conmen, liars.

You seem to have no problem with them.

#20 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 12:13 PM

All this ruling did was limit these agencies powers to what congress wrote into law. It was never limitless powers to regulate. Even with this ruling these agencies still have tremendous powers. Now those powers have a bit more constraint.

Chevron was an abomination. Overturning it is a huge credit to this court and is a very positive thing for our country.

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-01 12:22 PM

Who should be deciding whether a drug is safe, the scientists at the food and drug administration or judge Matthew Kazmaryk of the Fifth circuit?

Justice Gorsuch can't tell the difference between a greenhouse gas and laughing gas. He will now be deciding questions of an incredibly complex technical nature.

You don't have a clue what ambiguity means in the real world.

See: Mifepristone

#22 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 12:25 PM

"The way lefties would have it this country was 3rd world up to that point."
...
"Chevron was an abomination"

Oh I see. This country was third world from 1984 to 2024.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-01 12:26 PM

is a very positive thing for our country.

#21 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Who will benefit?

Polluters
Rich, rich people
Large corporations
Anti-vaxxers
Anti-workers
Large farm conglomerates
Elon Musk

Who will pay?

Average Americans

Drink that lead, baby!

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 12:27 PM

"is a very positive thing for our country."

Point me to the issue before the Court, and how the ruling led to positive change on the issue.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-01 12:30 PM

" Chevron was an abomination. "

And the Dunning-Kruger justice who can't tell laughing gas from pollution agrees with you.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-01 12:45 PM

Overturning it is a huge credit to this court and is a very positive thing for our country.

Trollin' trollin' trollin'...

#27 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-01 12:52 PM

Chevron was a pro-polluter decision at the time btw.

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 12:53 PM

Police aren't elected.
Defund The Police!

#11 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-07-01 12:13 AM | FLAG: |: Sorry to have to explain to an ignorant one --- Police do not make laws, rules or regulations, they just enforce them.

#29 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-07-01 05:53 PM

Any chance we'll get you to explain how you can enforce a law without interpreting it?

Any chance we'll get you to explain the difference between a police officer enforcing the law and a regulator specifically trained in the issue?

Any chance we'll get you to explain how removing authority from "unelected bureaucrats" to "unelected judges" is a "win for the people"?

Any chance we'll get you to explain how an unelected judge isn't an unelected bureaucrat?

Any chance we'll get you to answer the following question: Who should be deciding whether a drug is safe, the scientists at the food and drug administration or judge Matthew Kazmaryk of the Fifth circuit?

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 06:01 PM

11 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-07-01 12:13 AM | FLAG: |: Sorry to have to explain to an ignorant one --- Police do not make laws, rules or regulations, they just enforce them.

police do make law when they arbitrarily execute someone for a non capital offense and get away with it.

#31 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-01 06:04 PM

I'd like to thank everyone in a swing state who voted third party or chose not to vote in 2016.

You helped make this possible.

#32 | Posted by Tor at 2024-07-01 06:13 PM

Who should be deciding whether a drug is safe, the scientists at the food and drug administration or judge Matthew Kazmaryk of the Fifth circuit?

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag

You make absolutely no sense. As it stands large corporations run the FDA and have for a long time. You think they have an agenda? And don't give me this BS about it being republicans because it's not "just republicans".

"From Ronald Reagan through Barak Obama.
Monsanto's corrupting influence within the US government has continued seamlessly from one administration to the next; the company has continually used its vast resources to influence public policy by infiltrating every government agency that sets policy positions affecting its business interests. It also sabotages the safety reviewing process by oversight agencies, including the FDA, the USDA and EPA. (Open Secrets, 2013; US Right to Know)"

ahrp.org

#33 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-07-01 09:24 PM

You clearly don't understand the issue lefthandedturd.

Here let me provide you with an example.

One of the arguments in the Mifepristone case that the plaintiffs made was that many of the approvals for Mifepristone by the FDA were not appropriate. They stated, without factual basis that Mifepristone was unsafe, they relied on some anti-reproductive freedom website posts by anonymous bloggers as "proof". 5th Circuit Judge Matthew Kazmaryk accepted that argument and put a stay on the use of Mifepristone. The stay was lifted by the SC until the argument was adjudicated. The SC found that the plaintiffs did not have standing. They did NOT comment on the merits of the case. Thus, if the standing issue hadn't played out OR if the SC decided not to hear the case, Mifepristone would have been outlawed due to a Federal Judge's interpretation of anonymous blog posts.

Mifepristone is safer than Tylenol.

These are the facts of the issue

A federal judge ordering a safe drug taken off the market due to anonymous posts.
Not science
Not the federal agency which studied the medicine

A federal judge.

But let's play out your hypothetical.

You are saying the FDA is run by large corporations.

Now the large corporations will just get the courts to do their bidding. So instead of scientists at the FDA making the approval, pharmaceutical companies will argue before a judge that the FDA is being a meanie and the federal judge-not the scientists at the FDA to approve the drug. The decision will be profit driven and not driven by safe science

I do not disagree that large corporations have too much sway on the regulatory agencies but the solution is NOT to farm out oversight to radical, partisan, corrupt judges. The solution is to properly fund and reform the agencies.

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 09:31 PM

#34

One of the funny/sad thing about Trumpers is that so many claim to be anti-corporate, anti-globalist radicals... when they let some waddling billionaire globalist corporatist con artist convince them he is, 'for the little guy!'.

It's hilarious, really. They are truly blinded by their hate.

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-01 09:43 PM

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-01 09:31 PM | Reply | Flag

It's mighty fkking funny that all of a sudden, you and Corky want to nitpick a system run by both parties for a half a century as a corrupt establishment all because Trump is running for president. That's truly laughable.

#36 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-07-01 09:49 PM

- all because Traitor Trump the Big Lie J6 Criminal is running for president.

ft/nc

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-01 09:54 PM

You clearly don't understand the issue lefthandedturd.

I'm not sure what you expect from him.

He's a deplorable Trumping MAGAt who brags about taking ivermectin and cheers on the destruction of America.

He's the definition of an emasculated cuck desperate for Trump to fix his pathetic life.

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-01 09:56 PM

He's a deplorable Trumping MAGAt who brags about taking ivermectin and cheers on the destruction of America

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-01 09:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

At least I'm trying to be healthy. You OTOH continually engage in activity you've been told to stop by the surgeon general because it spreads an incurable disease. You have absolutely no right to talk about other people's healthcare choices.

#39 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-07-03 07:38 AM

"At least I'm trying to be healthy."

Telling people the reckoning is coming isn't trying to be healthy.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-03 07:55 AM

"You have absolutely no right to talk about other people's healthcare choices."

Does anyone have a right to talk about other people's health care choices?
Anyone other than Deplorables like you, naturally!

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-03 08:30 AM

You have absolutely no right to talk about other people's healthcare choices.

#39 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Abortion has entered the chat

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-03 08:40 AM

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