Thursday, February 20, 2025

Trump: Russia 'have the Cards' in Peace Negotiations

Donald Trump says he believes Russia "have the cards" in any peace talks to end the war in Ukraine because they have "taken a lot of territory".

Posted by REDIAL at 07:31 AM | 31 COMMENTS | permalink

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Russia has the cards Trump has given them.

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-- Ian Bond (@cerianbond.bsky.social) February 20, 2025 at 2:00 AM

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Well, Old Orange Liberace handed them the deck.
Ever wonder how this colossal fool went broke running gambling dens?
Now you know.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-20 05:31 AM

He's an idiot.

Putin pulls Elmo's strings and Elmo pulls Felon47's.

The endgame will be the US sending weapons and soldiers to fight along side Russia.

Putin's destruction of America is just about complete.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-02-20 07:56 AM

Perfect example of the Big Lie! A Lie So Big that stupid people believe it because they can't believe anyone would try to tell a lie that big but the stupid MAGAS ARE ALREADY SWALLOWING IT BECAUSE THE ARE BIGLY STUPID! There is no lie too big for those stupid people to not believe! Mind blowingly stupid! Stupid to a wgole new level od stupidity. It was not thought that scientifically it was possible to reach these levels of stupidity but still they will claim that liberals are mean for commenting on their stupidity; It's not politically correct to call them retarded! no matter how retarded MAGA is! They are MAGAtarded! Bringing reyarded to new levels only reachable through brain deathin the past! Are all MAGA members medically brain dead? Or just the loudest of them? It is a serious condition which causes the body to forget to breath! If thereod thing! was no stipidity there would be no Republicans which would be a good thing!

#3 | Posted by danni at 2025-02-20 08:02 AM

There's Dumb and then there is Dumberer! And then there is Bluewaffleserer! Bi"uewaffles: remember in...out...in....out! Repeat...in....out...in...out....as necessary. Stop if you wish! We just don't care!

#4 | Posted by danni at 2025-02-20 08:09 AM

Trump says the truth. Ukraine has manpower shortages and is losing territory daily. The Kursk front is slowly contracting. They have zero ability to retake Donbass and Luhansk. Ukraine refuses to lower the draft again again. Anybody saying otherwise is lying just to be partisan.

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-02-20 08:19 AM

"Trump says the truth. "

lol

Trumpy's "truth", like Russia's, is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma ... only Trumpy's Truth is also always found under a pile of stinky cow pies like an hallucinogenic mushroom.

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-20 11:29 AM

Russia has all the cards because Pres Trump surrendered to Pres Putin.

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-20 11:33 AM

Trump says the truth. Ukraine has manpower shortages and is losing territory daily. The Kursk front is slowly contracting. They have zero ability to retake Donbass and Luhansk. Ukraine refuses to lower the draft again again. Anybody saying otherwise is lying just to be partisan.

#5 | Posted by SITZKRIEG

Good thing Trump wasn't President during WWII.

#8 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-02-20 12:36 PM

Russia has the cards...
--Guy who bankrupted three casinos, providing an indication of his ability to turn cards

#9 | Posted by catdog at 2025-02-20 12:46 PM

The orange pedo would've blamed Poland for being invaded by Germany and the Soviet Union in 1939.

#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-20 12:47 PM

Just more 'Art of the Deal'...

OCU

#11 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-02-20 12:58 PM

Good thing Trump wasn't President during WWII.

#8 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-02-20 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Are you advocating committing combat troops to Ukraine?

If not, you're just bitching to bitch, there's no solution to their problem except bodies that can shoot rifles and fly drones.

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-02-20 01:38 PM

Are you advocating committing combat troops to Ukraine?

Why would we need to?

Ukrainians were kicking Russian butt all over the place.

We simply provided them access to some of our stockpiles of munitions.

Fact is, everyone knew Trump would surrender to Putin. This is happening as expected.

Trump is a weakling. He's a fat orange loser.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-20 01:43 PM

"Are you advocating committing combat troops to Ukraine?"

No need.. the war is essentially over. (For now)

Trumpy is obviously going to concede Ukraine to Russia by giving his full support to his BFF Vlad the Impaler. Without American support the war will end. Badly. But it won't really be over will it? It will just devolve into guerrilla warfare. Ukrainians will become the "terrorists" to the Russians in their own land.

Yeah. I don't think it will work out the way Trumpy and his maga maroons hope.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-20 01:59 PM

Ukrainians were kicking Russian butt all over the place.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-20 01:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

The fact you've never followed any of the livemaps that show this is not true, makes your name perfect.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-02-20 02:02 PM

Without American support the war will end.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-20 01:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

More lies. The EU has contributed more than the US in donated military hardware.

Ukraine doesn't have recruiting to put bodies on the line. American can not lower the draft age in Ukraine.

I don't know why I come to these threads, none of you really follow the action on the ground and never have. You're headline whores at best, easily led by the nose with disinfo you believe.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-02-20 02:05 PM

The fact you've never followed any of the livemaps that show this is not true, makes your name perfect.
#15 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

After two years of fighting, Russia hasn't accomplished gaining any ground in the Ukraine.

They're getting hammered by the Ukrainians.

But don't you worry.

Trump is here to surrender.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-20 02:28 PM

After two years of fighting, Russia hasn't accomplished gaining any ground in the Ukraine.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-20 02:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

You lie to yourself just because Trump. That's not healthy. You can sit and watch the momentum yourself, but you don't, because it's not about Ukraine for you. It's just R vs D nonsense.

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-02-20 02:34 PM

Pokrovsk and Myrnohrad are slowly being encircled. Chasiv Yar has almost fallen. The last defenders of Bilohorivka have a 3/4 envelopment around them 2 miles deep. Russians crossed the river at Novoluibivka. Russia forces are at the outskirts of Kupiansk.

You know so little that it's insulting to the Ukrainians being slowly peeled back by Russia.

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-02-20 02:37 PM

Fat Quisling and Vlad the Mass Murderer can waste all the time they like wanking each other off over in Saudi Arabia but the Ukrainians are not going to do anything they wish. What a waste of time and money. Give Ukraine the nukes!

#20 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-02-20 06:42 PM

Two reasons the Ukrainians do not lower they draft age; one is that they wish to safe their youth for the future and secondly, they do not have the equipment to outfit them if they did start to draft in mass. Russia is down to using suckers and losers getting shoved into this mess all the way from North Korea and have very few trained NCO's, much less junior and middle ranking officers left, to do much more than send waves of bodies at the Ukrainians how have lost thousands but so did the Vietnamese when they wore down the French and then the USA who finally gave up as everybody at home was sick of a war without a cause. Taking a month to go ten kilometers at the cost of 58,000 soldiers is not sustainable for Russia. Give Ukraine those nukes back!

#21 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-02-20 06:52 PM

@#20 ... Give Ukraine the nukes! ...

Ukraine, at one point had the nukes. But they gave them up.

Budapest Memorandum
en.wikipedia.org

... The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances comprises three substantially identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994, to provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).

The three memoranda were originally signed by three nuclear powers: Russia, the United States and the United Kingdom.[1] China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[2]

The memoranda, signed in Patria Hall at the Budapest Convention Center with U.S. Ambassador Donald M. Blinken amongst others in attendance,[3] prohibited Russia, the United States and the United Kingdom from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations."

As a result of other agreements and the memorandum, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.[4][5] ...


So much for Russia abiding by an agreement it signed ...

#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-20 07:02 PM

More lies. The EU has contributed more than the US in donated military hardware.

More lies? It's not a lie if it's an opinion bro.

And it did not originate with me.

I would say that if anyone knows the truth it's Zelenskyy. And his opinion has more weight than everyone here combined.

Ukraine probably can't survive without US help, Zelenskyy says ...

"It will be very, very, very difficult," he said in the interview with Kristen Welker scheduled to air Sunday. "And, of course, in all the difficult situations, you have a chance. But we will have a low chance " low chance to survive without support of the United States."

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-20 09:24 PM

More lies. The EU has contributed more than the US in donated military hardware.

Should have been in quotes ...

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-20 09:25 PM

So much for Russia abiding by an agreement it signed ...
#22 | Posted by LampLighter

Same with US. They didn't hold up their end of the bargain either.

#25 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-20 09:42 PM

The EU has contributed more than the US in donated military hardware.
- somefool

This is funny, a country donates its old American paid for equipment to Ukraine, gets credit for it.

And the US sends the country new equipment.

And idiots think the EU is donating equivalent equipment.

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-20 09:45 PM

@#23 ... Ukraine probably can't survive without US help, Zelenskyy says ...

"It will be very, very, very difficult," he said in the interview with Kristen Welker scheduled to air Sunday. "And, of course, in all the difficult situations, you have a chance. But we will have a low chance " low chance to survive without support of the United States." ...

Yup.

And, despite all the deflection attempts on this thread, that is the nub.

Of course, that begs the questions, why all the deflection attempts?

The activity of a current alias that seems to be intent upon upon deflection and misinformation seems to have risen in the past day or two.

My curiosity for now, is, why the apparent sudden increase in attention of this most august site by such aliases?



Russian-induced propaganda?

Why?

#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-20 09:55 PM

why the apparent sudden increase in attention of this most august site by such aliases?

They have to defend the mess they voted for, and the mess it's making for them. It's going to be a glorious 4 years! Deflectus Whattaboutis. LOL.

#28 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-20 10:00 PM

Donald Trump says he believes Russia "have the cards" in any peace talks to end the war in Ukraine because I'm Putin's *itch."

Very honest moment by Trump.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-20 10:03 PM

"why the apparent sudden increase in attention of this most august site by such aliases?"

In war truth is the first casualty.

This war is getting to a critical turning point. Turning points are tense moments. Disinformation will be flying. Both Trumpy and Pooty are good at it too.

Stand by to stand by ...

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-20 11:24 PM

More lies? It's not a lie if it's an opinion bro.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-20 09:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Okay Donald.

#31 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-02-21 10:34 AM

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