Saturday, March 01, 2025

Trump's 'disaster' Zelensky Meeting Stuns GOP Hawks

President Trump's explosive Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky shocked hawkish Republican lawmakers and led one prominent GOP backer of Ukraine to suggest that Zelensky should resign.

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Here's some pushback from Rep. Don Bacon (R-Nebraska). Very few Republicans will speak out against Trump, so it's important to identify the ones who will. We need only to flip 2 or 3 Republicans to start blocking Trump in the House.

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...Why it matters: The meeting angered Democrats, who were horrified by Trump and Vice President Vance's conduct. It offended some Republicans, with most of them reserving their ire for Zelensky.

- - - "He needs to either resign or change," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told reporters outside the West Wing.

- - - Zelesnky "has made it almost impossible to sell to the American people that he's a good investment."

Other Republicans shared their concern about the long-term fallout of the short-tempered meeting.

- - - Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.), in a text to Axios, said Friday was "a bad day for America's foreign policy."

- - - "Ukraine wants independence, free markets and rule of law. It wants to be part of the West. Russia hates us and our Western values. We should be clear that we stand for freedom," he said.

- - - Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.), in a post on X, called the meeting "a disaster -- especially for Ukraine," adding, "

Sadly, the only winner of today is Vladimir Putin. ...

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#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-01 01:00 AM

@#1

Oops, emphasis did not work, my error.

The "a disaster -- especially for Ukraine," should have been bolded.

Apologies for my error.


#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-01 01:03 AM

"Stuns"?
Really?
They've helped make this, so, sorry, fuhgedaboudit.
How about they get unstunned and start doing something?
Omfg, stand by for mass smelling salts distribution.

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-03-01 08:50 AM

Trump and Vance are repulsive.

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-03-01 06:20 PM

A bigger victory for Putin than any military battle':

Russia gleeful after Trump-Zelenskyy clash Putin stays silent but Russian politicians and media outlets crow with delight after the ambush of Ukraine's leader"

www.theguardian.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-01 06:39 PM

I almost feel sorry for him. He thought he was playing US, but really we were playing him, and now it's time for the rugpull.
i.4cdn.org

#6 | Posted by itchypossum at 2025-03-01 07:20 PM

I never thought that one day we would have to protect Ukraine from the U.S."

" German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier, quoted by Visegrd 24.

That's Putin's --- dumpster for you.

#7 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-01 07:26 PM

"I am sick to my stomach as the administration appears to be walking away from our allies and embracing Putin, a threat to democracy and U.S. values around the world."

~ Lisa Murkowski ~

Even repugs are disgusted by the demented orange pedo.

#8 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-01 07:32 PM

Time for all NATO members to nuke up.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-01 07:51 PM

#6 | Posted by itchypossum

JFC you're dumb.

Swallow it, cultist.

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-03-01 08:11 PM

Time for all NATO members to nuke up.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL

France has nukes, not under NATO control.

And a very interesting "first use" policy.

I'm ignoring the wackos with the "French surrender monkeys" meme...

Your ignorance of history is hilarious.

#11 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-03-01 08:58 PM

In the history of warfare no nation has won more battles than the French

Just saying

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-01 09:05 PM

In the history of warfare no nation has won more battles than the French

Just saying

#12 | Posted by truthhurts

I'm well aware.

But there are plenty on this site who believe the "French surrender monkeys" meme...

#13 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-03-01 09:13 PM

Your ignorance of history is hilarious.

I'm merely thinking that NATO members that currently don't have nuke should get some.

I think nukes are essentially useless and expensive but now might be the time.

#14 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-01 09:22 PM

You are of course correct.

France has it's own nukes, independent of NATO control.

They'll likely use them if pressed even a little bit too hard.

en.wikipedia.org

#15 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-03-01 09:33 PM

independent of NATO control.

Unless I'm mistaken, NATO doesn't control anyone's nukes.

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-01 09:49 PM

I knew the US would turn on Ukraine. Long before Trump was re-Elected.

It's just the American Way. BiPartisan and of long standing.

"Not Agreement Capable" as the Russians say.

Ukraine got played.

Zelinsky is handling himself with grace and dignity.

Trump and Vance are Scum.

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-03-01 09:50 PM

independent of NATO control.

Unless I'm mistaken, NATO doesn't control anyone's nukes.

#16 | Posted by REDIAL

Fine. You're looking for an argument - I'm not interested.

www.nato.int

#18 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-03-01 10:24 PM

You're looking for an argument

I'm not. Do you think NATO can "control" US nukes? Why is France different? Or the UK?

#19 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-01 10:41 PM

If/when Russia takes Ukraine, they take the largest, most experienced, best trained on modern weapons Military in Europe.... and then Vlad uses it on Nato.

He and Trumpalumpagus have already divvied up the world as Corporate Oligarchs do their Markets.

And Russia taking Europe makes in more normal for when Trump takes his share... Canada to Patagonia most likely. And Orangeland, formerly Greenland.

China gets all of Asia, and Africa goes to Israel and the Saudis, well, until the US, Russia, and China start dividing it up, too, for resources.

Africa being the New Plantation South, and all.

No... not kidding.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-01 10:43 PM

I'm old enough to remember when the US stood up for democracy and stood up to dictators. Ronald Reagan would have punched Trump in his face if he was still around.

#21 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-03-02 08:35 AM

Do we really have anything anymore like a Republican "hawk"?

Seems like they would be doing a lot more if they really existed.

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-02 08:47 AM

"Do we really have anything anymore like a Republican "hawk"?"

They have all devolved into chicken hawks terrified of offending King Trumpy.

Foghorn Leghorn was smarter than most republicans are these days.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-02 12:28 PM

"He needs to either resign or change," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told reporters outside the West Wing.

Sorry senator Limp Wrist, Zelensky was the only one in the room who played his cards correctly. He left with his head held high and egg in everyone else's faces. Art of the deal indeed....

If you ever decide to go into theater, try out for Gollum in "The Trilogy"

#24 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-03-02 03:14 PM

"He needs to either resign or change," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told reporters outside the West Wing.

Sorry senator Limp Wrist, Zelensky was the only one in the room who played his cards correctly. He left with his head held high and egg on everyone else's faces. Art of the deal indeed....

If you ever decide to go into theater, try out for Gollum in "The Trilogy".

#25 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-03-02 03:16 PM

Sorry about that-thought maybe you'd want to read it in stereo...

#26 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-03-02 03:17 PM

... Trump's 'disaster' Zelensky Meeting Stuns GOP Hawks ...

What do those GOP have to say about this?

Elon Musk Supports US Withdrawal from NATO, UN
www.newsweek.com

... President Donald Trump's close confidant and billionaire backer Elon Musk has supported a call for the U.S. to withdraw from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the United Nations (UN).

In a post on Saturday night, Musk endorsed a suggestion from user @GuntherEagleman, who wrote: "It's time to leave NATO and the UN." ...



#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-02 06:35 PM

Chris Murphy fraudulent leftist CT Dem senator undermined the deal to make Trump look bad.

#28 | Posted by Robson at 2025-03-02 08:12 PM


If/when Russia takes Ukraine, they take the largest, most experienced, best trained on modern weapons Military in Europe.... and then Vlad uses it on Nato.

What you lack in intelligence Corky, you make up for in fantasy story telling.


China gets all of Asia, and Africa goes to Israel and the Saudis, well, until the US, Russia, and China start dividing it up, too, for resources.

Its possible, if the US keeps allowing itself to be distracted, its interesting you admit this.


I knew the US would turn on Ukraine. Long before Trump was re-Elected.

This is true, as an Asian immigrant, I see first hand the devastation and chaos the US creates with its helter-skelter foreign policy.


Time for all NATO members to nuke up.
#9 | POSTED BY REDIAL

IMO They should just give UKR the nukes.

#29 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-02 08:26 PM

#28

Bizarro World King.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-02 08:26 PM

#29

Bizarro World Queen... complete with pigtails!

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-02 08:29 PM


@#28 ... Chris Murphy fraudulent leftist CT Dem senator undermined the deal to make Trump look bad. ...

How so?

I ask because I have voted for Sen Murphy in his recent elections.

So, if your current alias has real issues to raise about him that may change how I vote, I'm willing to listen.

Yer up.

#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-02 08:57 PM

@#29 ... if the US keeps allowing itself to be distracted, ...

The US is not allowing itself to be distracted.

Pres Trump is actively abandoning the US as the leader of the free world, and in favor of autocrats and dictators.


Pres Trump is not allowing anything to happen, he seems to be actively encouraging it.

#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-02 09:00 PM

- Pres Trump is actively abandoning the US as the leader of the free world,

He prefers Leader of the Fee World now. What with US policy For Sale and all.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-02 09:19 PM

"I knew the US would turn on Ukraine." EFFORTTRAITOR
You have been against him with your anti Jewish -------- for three years.

"Zelinsky is handling himself with grace and dignity." EFFORTTRAITOR
WTF? What happened to all that ---- you been talking about him?

#35 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-03-02 10:38 PM

Is Susan Collins concerned yet?

Anyone surprised by this is stupid.

I knew the US would turn on Ukraine. Long before Trump was re-Elected.

Watch out for those splinters up your ass from sitting on the fence.

You have been from day one pushing for UKRAINE TO SURRENDER because your a coward.

Save your selective outrage now.

#36 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-03-03 08:08 AM

Guess no-one here are aware that Zelensky met with dems before the Trump meeting and they told him not to accept the deal. What a 180 for dems who decades ago were the anti-war 'peaceniks' who pretty much created the 'Peace Sign, are now the pro-continuous war party of today [warmongers]. Go figure....

#37 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-03-03 11:51 AM

x.com

Ain't that the truth

#38 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-03-03 12:30 PM

#37

From a NY Post article that IGNORES THE FACT that Zelensky had spent the entire week prior to the Meeting with Dems and the WH declaring that he would not accept a Deal that did not include a Security Guarantee.

Because, of course, that would be foolish as Vlad has proven time and again that a Cease Fire deal means nothing to him.

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-03 12:46 PM

Re 39

And Shady JD could not wait to spring his surprise attack claiming that Zelensky was ungrateful and did not even thank them today.

Even though he has thanked us over and over and even just before the ambush.

Trumpy could shoot a million Americans right in front of us all. (He kinda already did!)

And not only would maga maroons still support him, 10 minutes after they witnessed it, they'd be out telling anyone who would listen that those Americans had it coming for not thanking Trump for choosing him to shoot them. And Tommy Tuberville would then tweet that we should be thanking God for Trump, because without him we'd never know the American dream of being able to shoot Americans in streets.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-03 01:26 PM

@#40 ... And Shady JD could not wait to spring his surprise attack ...

www.reuters.com

... Friedrich Merz, the conservative due to become Germany's chancellor after winning the largest share of the vote in an election a week ago, suggested Friday's Oval Office argument, in which Zelenskiy was pressed to commit publicly to a diplomatic solution, had been a pre-planned trap.

"It was not a spontaneous reaction to interventions by Zelenskiy, but obviously a manufactured escalation," Merz said. ...


#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-03 01:58 PM

Guess no-one here are aware that Zelensky met with dems before the Trump meeting and they told him not to accept the deal. What a 180 for dems who decades ago were the anti-war 'peaceniks' who pretty much created the 'Peace Sign, are now the pro-continuous war party of today [warmongers]. Go figure....

#37 | Posted by MSgt a

Being anti war doesn't mean allowing dictators to invade whoever they want.

When exactly did your party go from being anti russia to pro russia? Did it happen on the day you realized putin was helping elect trump?

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-03-03 02:36 PM

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