Tuesday, March 18, 2025

Family says U.S. Sent Innocent Young Venezuelan Man to Salvadoran Prison

The men had just begun new lives in Dallas when officers arrived at their home and arrested them. Their relatives deny that they have any connection to the Tren de Aragua gang.

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In interviews, relatives of the men insisted they are not members of the Tren de Aragua gang. "If there are people with criminal records, then look for them," Mercedes Yamarte said. "But the innocent shouldn't have to pay for the rest." www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/ ...

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-- Max Boot (@maxboot.bsky.social) March 18, 2025 at 8:26 AM

The Trump administration moved one large step closer to a constitutional showdown with the judicial branch of government when airplane-loads of Venezuelan detainees deplaned in El Salvador even though a federal judge had ordered that the planes reverse course and return the detainees to the U.S.

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-- The New York Times (@nytimes.com) March 17, 2025 at 5:32 AM

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Well innocent of what is the question. Crime? Well you don't need to be convicted of a crime to be deported under the Alien Enemies Act.
I suggest if you are in contact with anyone that associates with a Terrorist organization to break off contact.

I mentioned Trump making all these cartels terrorists organizations and what it means. You all ignored it.

#1 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-19 11:03 AM

Hey, he only raped and killed 4 but his parents said he was a good boy, a very good boy.

#2 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-19 11:03 AM

We can only hope Democrats are smart enough and strong enough to learn the lesson: Due Process isn't real and shouldn't apply to anyone the administration considers a traitor or terrorist.

So when a Dem is in office, arrest Trump, Elon, and their cronies. Remember, Due Process isn't for traitors and terrorists.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-19 11:10 AM

The orange pedo is serial rapist who killed 1.2 million Americans.

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-19 11:12 AM

Hey, he only raped and killed 4 but his parents said he was a good boy, a very good boy.

#2 | Posted by fishpaw

I don't see any evidence of that. Maybe you can show us?

And if that's the case, WHY didn't it go to the Court so he could be deported with proper due process?

Can Democrats deport anyone they want in power? Deny Due Process to anyone they want?

#5 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-19 11:13 AM

I'm on the brown kid's side here.

-He has no tattoos. These gang members must have certain tattoos, and nonmembers with the tattoos are murdered.

#6 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-03-19 11:41 AM

He has the soulless eyes, though. And no documents? Yeah, he has to go back. Maybe not to the harsh prison, but just back to where he sneaked in from.

#7 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-03-19 11:47 AM

Due process is NOT optional.

Trump and Elon should Hang.

In a just world they Will.

How did Americans become so in love with the idea of Dictatorship?

What the Hell happened to this country?

It make me feel sick to watch it.

#8 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-03-19 12:13 PM

What the Hell happened to this country?

It make me feel sick to watch it.

POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Apparently Americans voted for this. Apparently.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-19 12:19 PM

I don't see any evidence of that. Maybe you can show us?

Are you seriously asking for evidence from a maga maroon?

They don't require evidence for anything.

You, as a dem or a lib, require evidence for everything.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-19 12:22 PM

Hey, he only raped and killed 4 but his parents said he was a good boy, a very good boy.

#2 | Posted by FISHPAW

Liar.

#11 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-03-19 01:00 PM

We can only hope Democrats are smart enough and strong enough to learn the lesson: Due Process isn't real and shouldn't apply to anyone the administration considers a traitor or terrorist.

So when a Dem is in office, arrest Trump, Elon, and their cronies. Remember, Due Process isn't for traitors and terrorists.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-19 11:10 AM | Reply | Flag:
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Due process, due process, did you just learn what that phrase means? If you did apply it to the 34 NY felonies case.

#12 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-19 03:15 PM

Hey, he only raped and killed 4 but his parents said he was a good boy, a very good boy.

#2 | Posted by FISHPAW

Liar.

#11 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-03-19 01:00 PM | Reply | Flag:
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I'll play Democrat here, prove that he didn't.

#13 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-19 03:16 PM

I suggest if you are in contact with anyone that associates with a Terrorist organization to break off contact.

CRAP! I interact with domestic terrorists and/or terrorist sympathizers on a daily basis right here on the DR. Every MAGA maroon on this site is associated with a Terrorist organization, led by the rapist convicted felon and his rapist pedophile crew.

#14 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-03-19 03:26 PM

So when a Dem is in office, arrest Trump, Elon, and their cronies. Remember, Due Process isn't for traitors and terrorists.
#3 | Posted by Sycophant

Pay attention, because the real world is more complicated than your pea brain can seem to handle.

The law that Trump is using to implement this doesn't require "due process" by the judicial system.

From a previous post of mine

My understanding reading the law as best I could, SCOTUS ruled it has no say in the matter of the Alien Enemies Act.

Just like an airplane, if the pilot (president) deems the the orders are against the safety of the flight (gang members) he/she can disregard those orders.

Under authority of the Act of 1798, the President, on July 14, 1945, directed the removal from the United States of all alien enemies "who shall be deemed by the Attorney General to be dangerous to the public peace and safety of the United States."

As Congress explicitly recognized in the recent Administrative Procedure Act, some statutes "preclude judicial review." Act of June 11, 1946, 10, 60 Stat. 237, 243. Barring questions of interpretation and constitutionality, 164*164 the Alien Enemy Act of 1798 is such a statute.
A war power of the President not subject to judicial review is not transmuted into a judicially reviewable action because the President chooses to have that power exercised within narrower limits than Congress authorized.
scholar.google.com

#15 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-19 03:27 PM


CRAP! I interact with domestic terrorists and/or terrorist sympathizers on a daily basis right here on the DR.
#14 | POSTED BY CHUFFY

Glad I warned you.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-19 03:28 PM


If you did apply it to the 34 NY felonies case.

#12 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

He didn't care when J6rs were held without charges for months on end.
www.wusa9.com

This is why Lumpers lose in the long game, I wish they would listen to me. Its really unfortunate.

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-19 03:31 PM

I'll play Democrat here, prove that he didn't.

#13 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

You can't even do THAT right. Asking someone to prove a negative is dumb, even for you. I'm sure ICE has evidence and paperwork on everyone they've disappeared, right? Isn't it the responsibility of the people doing the illegal deporting to prove their kidnap victims are guilty? How about you prove that he DID? You can't, because you are not a smart, or moral, person.

#18 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-03-19 03:32 PM

Glad I warned you.

#16 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

And yet you continue to get me in trouble for interacting with a Terrorist sympathizer and Russian apologist.

#19 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-03-19 03:33 PM

Say hi to TonyRoma for me. I respect his decision to not come back. And I figured I must have been an irritant with my racist pastiche comments so I hope I didn't drive him away. If that is a thing that happened I'm sorry. He did have good things to say. So did Sully. I often felt like if both Sully and I agreed on something, there was no other way to slice it.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-19 03:37 PM

A judge ordered the planes to be turned around. The Admin laughed and made excuses, with a wink and a nod, for why that did not happen. This is at least the third judicial order that the Admin has ignored. Fascist playbook...

#21 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-03-19 03:37 PM

Oh well, can't have an omelet without breaking some eggs. Anyway, look at them. It's pretty obvious he's a bad HOMBRE and the MOM looks suspicious too.

#22 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-03-19 03:38 PM

"A judge ordered the planes to be turned around."

Sorry, you're breaking up.
(crinkling paper)

Say again, over.
(more crinkling paper)

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-19 03:42 PM

"A judge ordered the planes to be turned around."

Not his/her jurisdiction.

Sorry, you're breaking up.

The pilot can just say "unable". He/She has that authority.

#24 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-19 04:00 PM


A judge ordered the planes to be turned around. The Admin laughed and made excuses, with a wink and a nod, for why that did not happen. This is at least the third judicial order that the Admin has ignored. Fascist playbook...

#21 | POSTED BY CHUFFY

Tell congress, they wrote the law.

#25 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-19 04:01 PM


And yet you continue to get me in trouble for interacting with a Terrorist sympathizer and Russian apologist.
#19 | POSTED BY CHUFFY

Which would indicate you are a terrorist, not just a sympathizer.

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-19 04:02 PM

Say hi to TonyRoma for me. I respect his decision to not come back. And I figured I must have been an irritant with my racist pastiche comments so I hope I didn't drive him away. If that is a thing that happened I'm sorry. He did have good things to say. So did Sully. I often felt like if both Sully and I agreed on something, there was no other way to slice it.
#20 | Posted by snoofy

I'll tell him you said hi. No, I'm pretty sure it wasn't anything you or anyone here said. He's gone cold turkey on following the news because he finds Trump et al so vile and despicable.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-19 04:05 PM


Asking someone to prove a negative is dumb, even for you.

Yes it is, which is why he was coy about saying "I'll play the democrat", are you a Democrat?


I'm sure ICE has evidence and paperwork on everyone they've disappeared, right?

Why do they need it? Where is it written they need this "evidence"?

Did you know the police can impound your property because you were transporting CASH?

Did you know there were J6rs that were held without charges for months?

When did you actually start caring about evidence, be specific?

#28 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-19 04:06 PM


He's gone cold turkey on following the news because he finds Trump et al so vile and despicable.
#27 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

He sounds mature.

#29 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-19 04:07 PM

He didn't care when J6rs were held without charges for months on end.
www.wusa9.com
#17 | Posted by oneironaut
Did you know there were J6rs that were held without charges for months?
#28 | Posted by oneironaut

They were held without BOND, you idiot. Not without charges.

Are you honestly too stupid to read your own article?

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-19 05:17 PM

Hey, he only raped and killed 4 but his parents said he was a good boy, a very good boy.

#2 | Posted by fishpaw

I don't see any evidence of that. Maybe you can show us?

#5 | Posted by Sycophant

STILL waiting...

#31 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-19 05:18 PM

Due process, due process, did you just learn what that phrase means? If you did apply it to the 34 NY felonies case.

#12 | Posted by fishpaw

Okay. Trump had a full trial, with lawyers, rules of evidence, legal charges, a judge, and an appeals process.

You're turn.

#32 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-19 05:19 PM

Trumpers really are the dumbest people on Earth.

#33 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-19 05:21 PM

#30

The answer to the question is he really that stupid.... is a resounding, almost unanimous, "YES!".

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-19 05:26 PM

Isn't it odd that magat scum are making jokes about the literal death of our constitution?

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-19 05:31 PM

#32

You're

sub-90 detected

#36 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-03-19 05:39 PM

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