Wow, all the Russian collusion information is being released. We will finally get to see all the evidence that Adam Schiff was crowing about for years.

"Republicans ADMITTED it.
#10 | Posted by Danforth"

What did they admit? You have the files now - link to it.

"I already did, Einstein; read it. A "grave security threat"...said REPUBLICANS.
#14 | Posted by Danforth"

And what was the collusion? I probably interact with a Russian every few days in my normal life - hell, half of the Jews in the US are Russian-Jews. Does that mean everyone that interacts with them is colluding to influence an election?

Dems like Schiff claimed their was clear evidence of collusion and to this day, they have nothing to back this up and these releases will just further that. The only ones still buying the collusion nonsense are those being paid to believe it and their mouth breathing stooges.

"Not declassifying everything after all.
#17 | Posted by ClownShack"

Is that the reason why we still have no evidence of collusion? Trump is holding it all back?

"Starting with Paul Manafort providing information to the Russians.
#20 | Posted by ClownShack"

And what did he provide? He was charged for this crime, right?

""we still have no evidence of collusion"
Not for lack of trying.
#21 | Posted by Danforth"

No, I admit you guys tried for years - but, you still failed. Even abusing the FISA court, you still failed. Whatever happened to that Russian bank Trump was wired into that was the lynchpin of these allegations? The funny part is, you have a guy like Michael Cohen that will say literally ANYTHING - and the FBI could never get him to admit to being in Prague for the Russian agent meeting like you -------- claimed for years. We never did get to the bottom of why the FBI was so adamant about that - seems like bad intelligence like the rest of the made up -------- they fed you through Adam Schiff.

"Do you find the need to lie about it at every turn?
#23 | Posted by Danforth"

For the sake of argument, let's say that people in Trump's orbit did meet with Russians on occasion. What specific acts resulted from these meetings? Where is the collusion? That is the part you -------- never could prove despite all your attempts. It was, however, the focus of Schiff's campaign of lies promising the 'the big reveal' that never came that you -------- still believe in to this day.

"Republicans called that A GRAVE SECURITY THREAT. Were those Republicans lying?"

Republicans are not a hive mind. I disagree with about half of what they say. So, let's stick to specifics: what actual actions took place that constitute collusion?

"What specific acts resulted from these meetings?"
One was Manafort gave his puppet masters in Russia insider campaign polling information. Remind us how much the Trump campaign was paying Manafort?
#26 | Posted by Danforth"

What 'insider information' did Manafort provide and how was that used by the Russians in the collusion? You seem to be an expert so tell me what the Russians did with this sensitive information.

"Just admit you're afraid to read the link I provided, and leave it at that.
#27 | Posted by Danforth"

I read your link - and even with it being a biased crap report, there are still no specific actions mentioned that would constitute collusion. So, please tell me the specific actions.

"WHAT THEY ABSOLUTELY HAD TO to save face.
#31 | Posted by Danforth"

I am still waiting for you to say exactly what they admitted - that members of the campaign spoke with Russian? Okay, so what action was taken as a result. Still waiting for you to say what that was but all I get is deflections. So, again - what actual action resulted from these contacts?

We all know the truth - most Russians are designated as state actors by the morons in the 3 letter agencies regardless of if they are or not. Thus, Democrats use this to create the Russia hoax where morons like Danforth just need to know that someone once talked to a Russian to claim collusions despite not having a single link to a specific action that was ever taken by the Russians as a result of this 'collusion'. We know this because years and millions of taxpayers dollars has been spent to prove this negative already - and not just a normal investigation. It was an investigation where the investigators themselves broke the law repeatedly to try to frame up the Trump campaign. At this point, Pam Bondi needs to get off her ass and start arresting the people that perpetrated this fraud.

After all, we already have Schiff censured by Congress for his lies. Now, it is time for him to see a jail cell.

"There literally no evidence the Hunter Biden email that republicans are foaming at the mouth for exists."

Why are you deflecting again? This brings nothing to the conversation other than revealing that you have no argument to make.

"But you need names and specific actions to believe the extremely obvious fact Trump is doing Putin's bidding for personal gain.
#33 | Posted by ClownShack"

If it is obvious, then you should have no problem linking the specific actions. Still waiting.

"I've already mentioned several, for which you've had no answer."

In what post did this occur? All I have seen you post is that people met with 'Russians'. You have some specific allegation or specific actions other than 'meeting'?

"Meanwhile, why aren't you calling for all 18 folks who broke the law with their Signal Chat to face prison terms?"

What law was broken? The ------- journalist claims 'battle plans' but there is no person, place, target or timing mentioned. What you are seeing is 4D chess by Trump to allow this to 'leak out' so our European 'allies' know they are on notice that we are no longer going to tolerate their freeloading ways.

"EVERY ONE of them had the pro-active responsibility to move the discussion to a skiff. NONE of them even suggested as much.
#36 | Posted by Danforth"

What information was posted that would require a skiff?

Yeah, waiting for you to realize your latest 'we got him now circular firing squad' stepped on your own dicks again and were used by Trump.

Sorta like how he got you -------s to cry about the price of eggs when he solved the problem in 2 weeks. Thanks Dems for highlighting a problem that was solved by Trump when you claimed it was not possible.

"Keep denying what the current Secretary of State admitted, Gunga Dim!
#38 | Posted by Danforth"

And what act of collusion did the current Secretary of State admit took place? What specific collusion occurred as proven by the current Secretary of State or anyone else for that matter? We had the Mueller report, we now have Trump declassifying all the documents, and you have been asked 5 times in this thread to state what collusion actually occurred and yet - you still got nothing.

The only real collusion is Schiff with Russia and he was censured as a result - oh, and Hillary and her campaign fined for making up the Steele Dossier.

"Scatberg, what did the putrid orange pedo do with the missing Russia binder?
#40 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

What missing Russia binder? Is this another liberal fapping fantasy like the fake pee tape? Please explain.

"They leaked highly sensitive classified data to the public."

What classified information was shared? That Trump is sick of Europe freeloaders? I don't think that is classified -------. You fell for the hoax.

"Paul Manafort was convicted of tax evasion and fraud.
#44 | Posted by donnerboy"

So, not Russian collusion?...you know, the thing being discussed here.

"You're pretending to look for a magical word (collusion), while ignoring the central tenet.
#45 | Posted by Danforth"

I am not looking for a word - we all know that never exists which is why you are deflecting.

So, let's look for examples of: "cooperate in an unlawful way in order to deceive or gain an advantage over others." Please provide specific actions that meet this definition or just admit that you fell for the hoax and move on.

"You keep demanding collusion; the three-figure amount of contacts prove the lies to America were no accident.

Yes, I keep demanding COLLUSION because simply meeting with a Russian is meaningless. And again, you fail to do so.

"And 8 years later, we see we were correct all the time: Russia has infiltrated, and now controls, the Republicans."

8 years later and your fantasy world of pee tapes and collusion is still alive and well with the useful idiots

"Remember when both parties were hacked, but only the (D) emails were released???
Kompromat.
#49 | Posted by Danforth"

Seth Rich was Russian?

"Marco Rubio and the Republicans disagree."

If the GOP was a hivemind like the Dems, you might have a point. But, half or more of the GOP is trash.

"And why aren't you starting a thread demanding the 18 folks who violated the Espionage Act be fired and jailed? Letter after the name?
#52 | Posted by Danforth"

And when was the Espionage Act violated?

"You admit there were meetings with Russians?
#54 | Posted by ClownShack"

Of course, where else did Steele get his bar-talk stories that he used in his fake Steele Dossier which started the whole collusion hoax?

"Proof of Russian collusion - 1
#57 | Posted by ClownShack"

Yes, we have 100% proof that Hillary colluded and conspired with the Russians in 2016. First, she conspired with a British national - Steele and then using Steele, she colluded and conspired with Russians (as linked above) to make up stories attributed to Russian officials to defame Trump. This is 100% documented and proven.

Based on this fake Steele Dossier, the US government spent years investigating Trump based on wholly made up stories - like the hooker pee tape, Trump hotel deals that never occurred, Trump having a direct server connection to a Russian bank, Michael Cohen flying to Prague to do deals with Russians on Trump's behalf, etc. All of which have been totally debunked leaving only the fact that yes, people on Trump's team have met with people that are Russian citizens. To this day, NO ONE has been able to prove that the Russians and Trump team colluded or can point to ANY actions taken by Russia in 2016 that benefitted Trump in any way.

"Proof of Hunter Biden's email - 0
#57 | Posted by ClownShack"

As for Hunter Biden - why did he require a pardon going back a decade if he did not commit any crimes? Why didn't the pardon just cover the gun and tax crimes he was already found guilty of committing?

"Because as it has been explained here 100 times Trump is a vindictive ----- that has promised to go after his political enemies.
#60 | Posted by Alexandrite"

If he committed no crimes, how can he 'go after' him?

"Fauci committed no crimes and he and his daughters get death threats.
#63 | Posted by Alexandrite"

Fauci lied to congress about gain of function research being conducted at the Wuhan lab. This is beyond debate at this point. Fauci also obstructed investigations into the origin of covid to cover for the fact that he was doing illegal gain of function research in Wuhan. Fauci's lies and authorization of gain of function research likely resulted in the deaths of over 6M people globally. He deserved a cell now but I am willing to give him due process. Look him up for lying to Congress while investigating the other points.

"Scotts is a repository of discredited right-wing nonsense, conspiracy theories, and Qanonsense, isn't he?
#66 | Posted by YAV"

Do you believe that gain of function research occurred at the Wuhan lab? Simple yes/no question for you.

"So, I'm not the only one to notice that?
#69 | Posted by LampLighter"

Do you believe that gain of function research occurred at the Wuhan lab? Simple yes/no question for you.

Did the Hillary campaign pay Steele to generate the fake Steele Dossier? Simple yes/no question for you.

The first step to being able to have a true debate is both sides agreeing on a central point of facts. So, please state your answers.

"Also - just so you know, all your nonsense was litigated years ago. You present nothing.
#73 | Posted by YAV"

Well, the Hillary one has been litigated:

"DNC, Clinton campaign agree to Steele dossier funding fine"

"The "gain of function" was brought up to try and derail from the obvious criminal actions of this lawless president.
#78 | Posted by YAV"

Did it occur or not. Fauci testified in front of Congress that it didn't. So, do you believe it did (making Fauci guilty of lying to Congress) or you think it didn't (Fauci not guilty of lying to Congress). So, what do you believe? Simple yes/no question.

"Simple yes/no question.
#80 | Posted by ScottS

With no nuance necessary.

#82 | Posted by rstybeach11"

Exactly what nuance is required to answer the question of whether gain of function research occurred? Are you trying to pull a Bill Clinton and argue the meaning of the word is?

Now, if you think what they were doing falls short of 'gain of function' research, you can simply say no. The fact that you won't answer points to not even you believing that is the case.