Tuesday, May 13, 2025

Trump Plans to Say the Persian Gulf Is the Arabian Gulf

President Donald Trump plans to announce while on his trip to Saudi Arabia next week that the United States will now refer to the Persian Gulf as the Arabian Gulf or the Gulf of Arabia, according to two U.S. officials.

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President Trump has floated changing the name of the Persian Gulf to the Arabian Gulf ahead of a trip to the Middle East next week, infuriating Iran and its people. The body of water has been called the Persian Gulf since at least 550 B.C. www.nytimes.com/2025/05/11/w ...

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-- The New York Times (@nytimes.com) May 11, 2025 at 7:51 PM

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... Arab nations have pushed for a change to the geographic name of the body of water off the southern coast of Iran, while Iran has maintained its historic ties to the gulf.

The two U.S. officials spoke with The Associated Press on Tuesday on condition of anonymity to discuss the matter. The White House and National Security Council did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-08 01:48 AM

Why not call it the Gulf of LIV?

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-08 01:51 AM

Wow, I just tried to log onto my Facebook account. After entering my userid and password, nothing happened.

I was faced with the equivalent of a blank stare.

OK, so then I went to downdector.com, and I was greeted with ...

...
Search results for "facebook.com"

Sorry, we couldn't find the company you were looking for. ...


OK, so downdetector.com says it cannot find facebook.com?

Wow.


Has Zuck purchased them?

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-08 02:08 AM

In KSA they called it the Arabian Gulf.

This is real Banana Republic stuff.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-08 02:08 AM

OK, facebook.com seems to be working now.

I'd say, "never mind" but there is still that downdetector.com denial of the existence of facebook.com.

What's up with that?



#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-08 02:13 AM

@#4 ... In KSA they called it the Arabian Gulf ...

Yeah, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia asserts that.

... This is real Banana Republic stuff. ...

Yup.

My first question would be ...

What money is flowing from Saudi Arabia to the Trump realm that has caused this?

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-08 02:17 AM

What money is flowing from Saudi Arabia to the Trump realm that has caused this?

Maybe he wants them to throttle oil production back to drive the price back up? OPEC+ production increases have really dumped oil prices in the last two months.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-08 02:23 AM

And Trumpf said he stopped bombing the Houthis on his own accord. Boulderdash. Muhammad Bin Salman asked Trumpf to hold off bombing the Houthis until after Trumpf's meeting concluded in Saudi Arabia to avoid an embarrassing situation or 'repercussions.'

When the US stopped bombing the Houthis, the Israelis took over the Murder-Death-Kill campaign anyway.

What a way for Trumpf to abuse our military. Jeopardize our personnel, lose two jets along the way, and waste billions of dollars. So, what mission was accomplished?

Links:

abcnews.go.com

www.middleeasteye.net

#8 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-08 02:24 AM

Trumpf wants to return to the US from Saudi Arabia announcing a 'super terrific successful' trip by claiming he's bringing jobs back to America with this mega-deal: www.armyrecognition.com

#9 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-08 02:38 AM

"Persian Gulf" has been in use for over 2,000 years.
That other one?
Puhleeze.
Distraction over substance,
Every goddamn time.

#10 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-05-08 06:23 AM

Trump Plans To Say the Persian Gulf Is the Arabian Gulf

All prelude to his "2 Inches is Average" executive order.

#11 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-08 09:45 AM

Krasnov Fats is going to rename the San Andreas Fault to Biden's Fault.

#12 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-05-08 09:48 AM

Since we got to the moon first it then belongs to us (see the planted flag?).

So.. time to rename the moon to New America.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-08 04:57 PM

.. This is real Banana Republic stuff. ...
Yup.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-08 02:17 AM | Reply

Wait until you hear what the French call the English Channel.

Banana Republic Frogs!

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-05-09 08:56 AM

It's been the Arabian Gulf for years.

I thought it had become derisive and somewhat disrespectful to refer to it as the Persian Gulf. Like referring to black people as "colored." Something from a different era.

#15 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-09 12:10 PM

"It's been the Arabian Gulf for years."

I've never heard this outside Arabia.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-09 12:12 PM

yeah buddy

lord knows we don't want to upset democrat heroes in Iran.

#17 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-09 04:59 PM

A twist in the plot ...

Mexico sues Google over changing Gulf of Mexico's name for US users
www.theguardian.com

... Mexico has sued Google for changing the Gulf of Mexico's name to "Gulf of America" for Google Maps users in the United States, Claudia Sheinbaum, Mexico's president, said on Friday.

"The lawsuit has already been filed," Sheinbaum said at her morning news conference, without saying where and when it was submitted.

On Thursday, Republicans in the House of Representatives approved legislation to codify Donald Trump's policy of renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the "Gulf of America".

The measure was sponsored by rightwing Georgia lawmaker Marjorie Taylor Greene and passed nearly along party lines, with all Democrats opposed and almost every Republican, with the exception of vulnerable Nebraska representative Don Bacon, voting in favor. ...


#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-09 08:58 PM

"I've never heard this outside Arabia."

Maybe it's just a Military thing. Just like what used to be referred to as the middle east is now southwest Asia.

#19 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-05-10 05:44 AM

We called it the Arabian Gulf back in the 90s when I was still giving daily intel briefs in the USMC because the Saudis got their feelings hurt if we didn't.

#20 | Posted by qcp at 2025-05-13 02:23 PM

"because the Saudis got their feelings hurt if we didn't."

And the USMC decided not to hurt our #1 Muslim Ally's widdle feewings?

Woke!

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-13 02:25 PM

You do what the Admiral demands when you're part of his battle group.

#22 | Posted by qcp at 2025-05-13 02:28 PM

#22: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com

#23 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-13 02:32 PM

Controlling the langue. Right out of the left wing playbook.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-05-13 05:22 PM

"Right out of the left wing playbook."

Would you like Freedom Fries with that?

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-13 05:23 PM


Would you like Freedom Fries with that?
#25 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Never heard of this, whats this about?

Also if I never heard of it, is that controlling the language?

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-13 06:05 PM

I've never heard this outside Arabia.
#16 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Google it, its clearly both.

#27 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-13 06:07 PM

The push to call it the Arabian Gulf gathered steam during the Pan-Arab nationalist movement of the late 1950s.
~ NYT

Not really a fan of Palestinians are you Snoofy?

Ya sit round with your ------- hanging out, and just dont' really know what went on do ya

#28 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-05-13 06:09 PM

"Controlling the langue (sic). Right out of the left wing playbook.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-05-13 05:22 PM"

IRONY

#29 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2025-05-14 09:38 AM

this is another wonderful thread to use in classes somewhere.

people who defend to the point of censorship men named Tim who tell you they/them

is now named sarah....and you get the rest....well maybe not jpw...

but raise cane at changing names of real things...

it's just SO PRECIOUS to read your comments.....

#30 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-14 11:43 AM

"people who defend to the point of censorship men named Tim who tell you they/them
is now named sarah"

Changing your own name is one thing.
Changing something else's name is not yours to do.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 11:50 AM

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