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Saturday, July 06, 2024

Stormy Daniels' supporters have raised more than $900,000 meant to help her move to a safe house and repay legal fees after testifying in the criminal trial that led to Donald Trump's conviction on 34 felonies. The money comes from an online GoFundMe campaign started by a friend and former manager of the adult film actor, who recently appeared on MSNBC and described how supporters of Trump have bombarded her with social media harassment as he seeks a second presidency, including threats to rape and murder her daughter and other family.

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Vile people do vile stuff...ain't Amerika great?

#1 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-07-06 07:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

MAGATs are scum

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-07-06 07:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

supporters of Trump have bombarded her with social media harassment as he seeks a second presidency, including threats to rape and murder her daughter and other family.

MAGAts are filth.

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-07-06 09:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"supporters of Trump have bombarded her with social media harassment as he seeks a second presidency, including threats to rape and murder her daughter and other family."

Just another part of Project 2025.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 11:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lock them up!

#5 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-07-06 11:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump should sue to seize the money to pay his outstanding legal judgment against her.

That said, I really don't believe she has received any threats from Trump supporters. Did she receive calls from -------- hoping to create a stereotype of unhinged Trump supporters? Probably - we have example after example from Jussie Smollet to Adam Kinzinger.

If I were Stormy, I would be in much more fear of being indicted for perjury given her ever changing story. Now, while the -------- run the DOJ, probably nothing to fear. But, I could see a case whereby the Trump DoJ goes after Bragg and Stormy for the NYC farce for CONVICTING Trump of a federal crime without due process and using perjury in an attempt to violate his civil rights - and yes, I see this being a criminal charge as we know Stormy won't pay civil judgments.

#6 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 10:10 PM | Reply

@#6 ... Trump should sue to seize the money to pay his outstanding legal judgment against her. ..

Sue whom?

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-07 10:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#6 ... really don't believe she has received any threats from Trump supporters. ...

Why?

Because that may be so not out of character for MAGA?


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-07 10:22 PM | Reply

"Sue whom?
#7 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

Stormy Daniels -------.

edition.cnn.com

You don't know she owes Trump almost a million dollars because a jury said that she lied about sleeping with Trump?

#9 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 11:08 PM | Reply

The------------------- is staying true to form by going after Stormy's 13 year old daughter.

#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-07-07 11:09 PM | Reply

"The------------------- is staying true to form by going after Stormy's 13 year old daughter.
#10 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT"

Hey, I know Biden is spray-tanned pedophile - but this is the first I have heard of him going at Stormy's 13 year old daughter. Maybe she reminds him of Ashley Biden and shower time.

Do you have a link?

#11 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 11:16 PM | Reply

@#9 ... Stormy Daniels -------....

I asked a simple question. Your current alias provided an answer.

Why the apparent need of your current alias for an ad hominem attack?

... You don't know she owes Trump almost a million dollars because a jury said that she lied about sleeping with Trump? ...

Yeah, but that was a different case.

From the article in the link your current cites in #9...

... Three thousand miles away from his New York legal drama, Donald Trump secured a substantial victory in another court.

The 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals sided with the former president in his effort to recoup additional legal fees from adult film star Stormy Daniels, who had filed and lost a defamation suit against him.

Daniels was ordered to pay Trump's attorneys just over $120,000 in legal fees. That's on top of the more than $500,000 in court-ordered payments to Trump attorneys she's already been ordered to pay.

The civil litigation is officially unrelated to Trump's arrest and charges filed against him in New York, but both involved Daniels, who was paid $130,000 in hush money during the 2016 presidential campaign to keep quiet about an affair. (Trump denies the affair.) ...


So, I have to ask, what's yer point behind this deflection?


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-07 11:19 PM | Reply

"So, I have to ask, what's yer point behind this deflection?
#12 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

Are you retarded or just libtarded? The article states Stormy raised ----- - my point is that Trump should seize the money as it is owed to him for her lies.

#13 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 11:21 PM | Reply

@#13 ... Are you retarded or just libtarded? The article states Stormy raised ----- ...

Ad hominem attacks aside.

So, Ms Daniels raised money.

So what?


... my point is that Trump should seize the money as it is owed to him for her lies. ...

And what lies might they be?


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-07 11:30 PM | Reply

@#13 ... my point is that Trump should seize the money as it is owed to him for her lies. ...

... and for bonus points, what does this case from a year ago in California (which had been discussed here on this most august site at the time) have to do with anything occurring recently?


As I asked in #12 ... So, I have to ask, what's yer point behind this deflection?


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-07 11:34 PM | Reply

"what does this case from a year ago in California (which had been discussed here on this most august site at the time) have to do with anything occurring recently?
#15 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

She just raised the ----- now - before, she was flat broke so she could not pay her judgment so that alone would make it relevant. But, the bigger connection is the fact that she owes Trump nearly a million dollars in legal fees because the jury found that Trump DID NOT defame her - hence, the jury ruled she lied about sleeping with him.

Now, this is extra relevant because the judge allowed her to fabricate what amounted to a rape story that she told in the 'hush money' trial - which 100% contradicted all of her prior statements and was even called out by Bill Maher - and has ZERO relevance to the actual charges against Trump.

So, my comment is doubly relevant as it deals with both her raising money (which was the point of the article) and that she lied in her most recent trial as evidenced by her already owing Trump nearly $1M - which you clearly did not know about (so, just say thank you for the alleviating you of your ignorance on this matter).

#16 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 12:14 AM | Reply

If she lied about sleeping with trump why did he pay her 130,000 dollars and have her sign a NDA?

you're ridiculous.

#17 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 12:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"If she lied about sleeping with trump why did he pay her 130,000 dollars and have her sign a NDA?
you're ridiculous.
#17 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

It is a nuisance lawsuit and sometimes it is just cheaper to make the problem go away. But, a court has already ruled on this point and found that Trump did not defame her, so, it means it found that she lied about sleeping with him. Remember, he paid her YEARS after she allegedly slept with him - he paid her because he didn't want to deal with this again so it was the path of least resistance. Pretty common for large companies actually. Similar reason why retail stores like Target let people steal - cheaper than having to pay for nuisance lawsuits if the criminal gets hurt while being detained.

#18 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 12:23 AM | Reply

So using your logic since trump was found to have defamed e jean carrol he raped her.

nice job defending your boy.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 12:24 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"So using your logic since trump was found to have defamed e jean carrol he raped her.
#19 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

That is the exactly logic -------- have been applying since the verdict - correct?

#20 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 12:27 AM | Reply

if losing the defamation suit means stormy is lying, then winning a defamation suit means e jean caroll is telling the truth.

so you're voting for a rapist. nice one, you dope.

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 12:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"if losing the defamation suit means stormy is lying, then winning a defamation suit means e jean caroll is telling the truth.
#21 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

Again, this is the logic -------- have been applying since the verdict, correct?

#22 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 12:32 AM | Reply

@16 ... She just raised the ----- now - before, she was flat broke so she could not pay her judgment so that alone would make it relevant ...

I agree.

She owed money, then she paid what she owed.

That's A Good Thing. No?

... But, the bigger connection is the fact that she owes Trump nearly a million dollars in legal fees because the jury found that Trump DID NOT defame her - hence, the jury ruled she lied about sleeping with him. ...

Yeah, that California case, and its current relevance, needs much more discussion here, Maybe your current alias should start a thread to discuss it. I look forward to participating in that thread.

... Now, this is extra relevant because the judge allowed her to fabricate what amounted to a rape story that she told in the 'hush money' trial ..

Extra relevant? Yeah, I'm gonna want to see that extra relevant evidence. (I'm trying not to say that your current makes up stuff without actually saying that I think your current alias makes up stuff.)


... So, my comment is doubly relevant ...

I don't see that yet.

But, yer up.



#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-08 12:32 AM | Reply

enjoy your rape vote, claudio. you can gave your scalp back, it isnt worth anything.

#24 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 12:34 AM | Reply

"I agree.
She owed money, then she paid what she owed.
#23 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

She didn't pay the money - that is the point. That is why Trump should seize it.

#25 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 12:37 AM | Reply

Enjoy your zombie vote, Alexandrite.

I totally get voting against Trump at all costs, but don't be a liar and pretend to know who will actually be running the Executive Branch, which according to our Constitution is singular and not some mesh-mash of unelected bureaucrats

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-08 12:39 AM | Reply

"enjoy your rape vote, claudio.
#24 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

So, you don't follow that logic? Very strange as all -------- do.

For myself, I believe that ONLY the criminal justice system should be hearing cases on things like rape, kidnapping and murder where the defendant is given full legal protections and must be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt. So, I don't buy into your ------- logic - hence, you have nothing on me. However, -------- such as yourself - CANNOT claim that Trump raped Carroll (WHICH ALL OF YOU CLAIM TO BELIEVE) AND believe Stormy without mental gymnastics.

#27 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 12:41 AM | Reply

Biden isnt an adjucated rapist. when Biden lost his bid for presidency before he didnt stage a coup. Biden wasnt impeached twice and convicted of 34 felonies (so far)

---- off.

#28 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 12:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

claudio what court ruling told you that biden was a pedophile?

youre the one doing partisan gymnastics here.

#29 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 12:42 AM | Reply

Trump is a rapist.

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

www.washingtonpost.com

#30 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-07-08 12:44 AM | Reply

" where the defendant is given full legal protections and must be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt."

so not your defaming posts about joe biden on drudge retort then? i agree.

#31 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 12:44 AM | Reply

"Biden isnt an adjucated rapist.
#28 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

Neither is Trump as:
1.) THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CONVICTION IN CIVIL COURT
2.) The jury indicated on their jury form that Trump DID NOT rape her

#32 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 12:45 AM | Reply

Reins link killed your post, claudio.

#33 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 12:47 AM | Reply

"where the defendant is given full legal protections and must be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt."
so not your defaming posts about joe biden on drudge retort then? i agree.
#31 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

When I file a civil suit against Biden for molesting his daughter - then you may have a point. As it stands, he is alleged to have molested his daughter - BY HIS DAUGHTER - and I choose to believe her. I wish he would face criminal charges for it and he may still be forced to do so. Until then - he IS NOT a convicted child molester - he is a just a credibly accused child molester. He would be free to take me to court for defamation if he wants, but remember the truth is best defense against defamation and exhibit #1 will be Ashley's diary.

#34 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 12:50 AM | Reply

"Reins link killed your post, claudio.
#33 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

Yeah, maybe if this was the first time this nonsense came up on this website - instead, it is about the 100th and the ACTUAL JURY FORM is what matters. Linked to below for about the 100th time:

www.nytimes.com

#35 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 12:53 AM | Reply

Judge Kaplan:

"The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was raped' within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump raped' her as many people commonly understand the word rape,' " Kaplan wrote.

He added: "Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that."

or i can believe claudio. tough call.

#36 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 12:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump put his fingers into E Jean Carrol against her will.

what would you call that? besides your next presidential vote i mean.

#37 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 01:02 AM | Reply

Donald Trump raped Jean Carroll and joined Epstein in raping a 13 year old girl.

"Grab them by their P***y!"
-Rapist and Pedophile, Donald Trump, Republican candidate for President of the United States

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-08 01:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

""The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was raped' within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump raped'"

------- word salad. Further, he is mixing the concept of a penal/criminal code with civil courts - which is nonsense in itself.

"her as many people commonly understand the word rape,' " Kaplan wrote."

So, he is arguing that the jury was too stupid to understand it?

"Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.
#36 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

Trump should sue the ------- for defamation in a West Virginia court.

#39 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 01:07 AM | Reply

i will ask again:

Trump put his fingers into E Jean Carrol against her will.

what would you call that?

#40 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 01:08 AM | Reply

"Trump put his fingers into E Jean Carrol against her will.
#37 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

Using ------- logic - 100%. Which also means that Trump DID NOT sleep with Stormy Daniels by the same ------- logic.

It is not the logic I would use - but I am not a -------.

#41 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 01:09 AM | Reply

Trump put his fingers into E Jean Carrol against her will.

what would you call that?

answer you coward.

#42 | Posted by alexandrite at 2024-07-08 01:13 AM | Reply

"what would you call that?
answer you coward.
#42 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

I would call that a CRIMINAL allegation.

I would 100% encourage her to file a criminal complaint in NY so this potentially dangerous rapist could be removed from the public if he actually did it. Why doesn't she do that?

#43 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 01:22 AM | Reply

@#25 ... She didn't pay the money - that is the point. That is why Trump should seize it. ...

First and foremost for me...

If she owes it, she should pay it. I've no bias against that basic tenet.

And, is this a justification for the topic of this thread...

That is...
... supporters of Trump have bombarded her with social media harassment as he seeks a second presidency, including threats to rape and murder her daughter and other family....

So, at this point, I would say there are two differing levels of concern that I have.

At a lower level, the money Ms Daniels may owe fmr Pres Trump because of the 2023 court proceedings.

But then there is also a more crucial level that needs to be acknowledged.

And that level is, as noted in the header of this thread...

... supporters of Trump have bombarded her with social media harassment as he seeks a second presidency, including threats to rape and murder her daughter and other family. ...


So, my question to your current alias now becomes, why did your current alias find the need to deflect the discussion away from the topic of the thread?



#44 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-08 01:22 AM | Reply

"But then there is also a more crucial level that needs to be acknowledged.
#44 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

Already addressed in my #6. I have as much concern about this being real as I am about MAGAs attacking Jusie Smollet in Chicago while yelling 'This is MAGA country!'. After all, Stormy is a proven liar by the CA courts AND by her own changing statements so why believe her about this allegation?

#45 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 01:25 AM | Reply

its called rape.

coward.

#46 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-08 01:29 AM | Reply

"its called rape.
#46 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

Rape is a criminal act and should be decided in a criminal court. Now, if Carroll would have pressed charges and Trump was convicted in a criminal court AND THEN sued him in civil court for damages, I could get behind that. But, making a serious allegation of this type AND NOT filing criminal charges is an abuse of the legal system and should be banned.

#47 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 01:37 AM | Reply

@#45 ... Already addressed in my #6. ...

I don't see it.

Can your current alias elaborate?

... After all, Stormy is a proven liar by the CA courts AND by her own changing statements so why believe her about this allegation? ...

... And fmr Pres trump has been proven to be a sexul predator by the NY courts.

But, is Ms Daniels running for President?


So, I have to ask, what's yer point?

Is your current alias trying somehow to justify the topic of this thread? That supporters of Trump have bombarded her with social media harassment as he seeks a second presidency, including threats to rape and murder her daughter and other family.?

I'll ask once again, why all the apparent deflection attempts from the topic of the thread?

Why all the ascription of blame to everyone else besides the MAGA folk who seem to be making threats "to rape and murder her daughter and other family"?

I mean really.

I've entertained your current alias' apparent deflection in the hope the discussion would wind up somewhere useful.

I now realize that trying to have a discussion with your current alias appears to be futile.

So, that said, let me go back to my questions of a few comments ago...

Why the deflection attempt from the topic?


#48 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-08 02:15 AM | Reply

"@#45 ... Already addressed in my #6. ...
I don't see it."

I don't actually believe them that any threats actually occurred just like I don't believe Jusie Smollet was attached by MAGAs in Chicago.

"And fmr Pres trump has been proven to be a sexul predator by the NY courts."

Under ------- logic, this is true - so, it is not possible for a liberal to simultaneously believe that Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels AND that Trump rapes E Jean Carroll.

"Is your current alias trying somehow to justify the topic of this thread? That supporters of Trump have bombarded her with social media harassment as he seeks a second presidency, including threats to rape and murder her daughter and other family.?"

Not justify - I just highly doubt that it actually happened. Again, this was a known liar as proven in the courts as well as by her prior states making these allegations against Trump supporters in a money grab attempt. And you ------- libs ran to her with your wallets open. You can't fix stupid.

#49 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 02:28 AM | Reply

@#49 ... I don't actually believe them that any threats actually occurred ...

So, that is the reason your current alias states why it chose to try to deflect this thread? That's what your current alias is hanging its hat upon?

Of course, that then raises another question, what in in original topic of the thread raised such a concern with your current alias to the point that it determined its tactics to be deflection?


#50 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-08 02:48 AM | Reply

"So, that is the reason your current alias states why it chose to try to deflect this thread?"

My reasons for commenting on this article have been crystal clear since my #6 for anyone with a functioning frontal lobe.

"Of course, that then raises another question, what in in original topic of the thread raised such a concern with your current alias to the point that it determined its tactics to be deflection?
#50 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

My tactics of discussing an article? You going to have to expand on that one as I have no clue what you mean here.

#51 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 03:14 AM | Reply

There is literally no evidence of any of Efraud Carrolls claims. No rape, no assault, nothing. She can't even ------- remember WHAT YEAR anything she alleged happened.

#52 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-07-08 04:54 AM | Reply

"#52 | POSTED BY THEBULL"

Finally, some intelligence is brought to the conversation by someone other than me. Thank you.

#53 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-08 05:03 AM | Reply

There is literally no evidence of any of Efraud Carrolls claims. No rape, no assault, nothing. She can't even ------- remember WHAT YEAR anything she alleged happened.

#52 | POSTED BY THEBULL AT 2024-07-08 04:54 AM | REPLY | FLAG PPPFFFTTTT

The BESTand MOST EXPENSIVE lawyers that would work for him... so many won't... the best his (promises of) money could buy. Let me repeat.
BESTand MOST EXPENSIVE
BESTand MOST EXPENSIVE
BESTand MOST EXPENSIVE
BESTand MOST EXPENSIVE
Top-notch lawyers from prestigious law firms!
Experts in their fields.

Still, he lost both times.

Finally, some intelligence is brought to the conversation by someone other than me. Thank you.

#53 | POSTED BY CLAUDIO AT 2024-07-08 05:03 AM | FLAG: GFY

Republicl0wnery is when you agree with all THEBULL... which is what makes you stupid... and why you're such sore losers.

#54 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-07-08 08:54 AM | Reply

Oh... I forgot to thank Trumpanzee's legal team for garnering together all their strategic brilliance and legions of professionals to lose so publically in open court... for the entire world to see...

Their service to the country is appreciated... 34 convictions...WTG losers!

#55 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-07-08 09:00 AM | Reply

One more thing... he lost in court to a porn star and a model... that's "B*mbos" in cl0wn speak... your boy got out-legaled by both of them... true story... forced to pay... best lawyers in the land... lost

#56 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-07-08 09:08 AM | Reply

Claudio, please be quiet. The adults are playing here, and we promise to let you play if we get bored (VERY unlikely).

#57 | Posted by john47 at 2024-07-08 12:56 PM | Reply

That said, I really don't believe she has received any threats from Trump supporters. Did she receive calls from -------- hoping to create a stereotype of unhinged Trump supporters?

#6 | Posted by Claudio

Whenever trumpers do something they can't excuse, they say it was liberals in disguise.

#58 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-08 01:10 PM | Reply

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