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Saturday, August 17, 2024

Locked in a tight race for the White House, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump are eager to show voters how they'll handle the economy if elected.

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"Trump is calling for more tariffs if he returns to the White House.

During speeches and interviews conducted earlier this spring, Trump called for adding a tariff of at least 10% on all imports from all countries, as well as another tariff upward of 60% on all Chinese imports.

Together, those tariffs could cost a typical middle-income household $1,700 a year, according to an estimate published by the Peterson Institute for International Economics in May.

This week, Trump suggested that the across-the-board tariff could be as high as 20%.

In April, Moody's estimated that even if Trump cushioned the blow from tariffs with tax cuts, his trade proposals would cost the US economy 675,000 jobs, worsen inflation and shrink gross domestic product by 0.6 percentage points."

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"Trump and Harris have differing views on how to handle the expiration of more than $3.4 trillion in individual tax cuts next year.

The former president has said that one of his main goals would be extending the sweeping array of tax cuts in the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, ... "

In addition, Trump would like to lower the corporate tax rate to 15% from the 21% set by the 2017 tax cuts ""

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"Harris, on the other hand, said that she will continue President Joe Biden's pledge not to raise taxes on anyone making under $400,000 a year.

The vice president has also slammed Trump for wanting to extend all of the 2017 tax cuts.

"Donald Trump fights for billionaires and large corporations," she said Friday. "I will fight to give money back to working and middle-class Americans."

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-08-16 08:40 PM | Reply

When the Washington Post is shutting on Kamala's price controls idea ... It really has me looking forward to the debates.

#2 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-08-16 10:43 PM | Reply

It really has me looking forward to the debates.

#2 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Me too!

Kamala's price control ideas are based on laws that are already on the books in many states.

Including even those socialist states of Alabama, Florida, Mississippi.

They have laws that prohibit price increases after the President of the United States or the state's governor has declared a state of emergency in the affected region.

But wait. There's more!

Housing
California, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, and West Virginia prohibit price increases on housing during emergencies. Kansas and Vermont include both housing and lodging, while Texas only mentions lodging.

Fuel
Indiana's law prohibits price gouging on fuel products during a state of emergency. California also has a law to combat price gouging at the pump.

Other consumer goods and services
California's Penal Code section 396 prohibits excessive price increases on essential consumer goods and services, construction services, hotel lodging, and residential rental properties during and shortly after a declared state of emergency. The law applies to transactions between retailers and consumers, as well as between manufacturers, wholesalers, distributors, and retailers.

I guess the Washington Post needs to get busy shutting!

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-16 10:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Unrelated... (but it is Friday evening...)

Billy Joe & the Checkmates -- Percolator (1962)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

There are no lyrics, it is an instrumental tune....

:)

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-16 10:56 PM | Reply

For starters, fmr Pres Trump is calling for an extension of his tax cuts to the wealthy.

He does not seem to be concerned about the lower- and middle-class at all.



#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-16 11:05 PM | Reply

Was he ever? Errrr, no.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-08-16 11:09 PM | Reply


He does not seem to be concerned about the lower- and middle-class at all.
- gaslighter

You aren't data driven at all, just made up BS.

IRS data proves Trump tax cuts benefited middle, working-class Americans most
thehill.com

#7 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-17 12:11 AM | Reply

1lumper2 is the biggest Lewzer ------- ex-Bernie bro ever.

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-08-17 12:39 AM | Reply

" IRS data proves Trump tax cuts benefited middle, working-class Americans most"

TOTAL bullschittt article.

It's from 2021, and only uses data from 2018, the first (and most favorable) year.

The author also conveniently avoids (checks notes ... ) MATH. Even at its best, it gave more to FOREIGN INVESTORS than it did to American workers.

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-08-17 12:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

@#7 ... you aren't data driven at all, just made up BS. ...

Apparently, neither is your current alias.

Citing an OpEd article as being factual?

What else yer got?

Do try harder.



#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-17 01:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump Tax Cuts Cost $7.8 Trillion, Aid Top Earners, Study Finds (2017)
www.bloomberg.com

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-17 01:49 AM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY 1LUMPER2

You should stick to the nooner where the idiots actually believe your bullshht lies and propaganda.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-08-17 02:48 AM | Reply

1Nut reminds me of something loud and inefficient... a blunderbuss, yeah, thats the ticket!

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2024-08-17 09:18 AM | Reply

Another Jeff Puppet goes down in flames.

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#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-08-19 12:17 AM | Reply

@#7 ... IRS data proves ...

A citation of an OpEd proves nothing.

What else yer got?

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-19 12:30 AM | Reply

@#7 ... You aren't data driven at all, just made up BS. ...

That is a very significant accusation.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
--- Carl Sagan

What's your current alias got?

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-19 12:34 AM | Reply

The melon felon wants to add at least 10% more to the price of goods with tariffs. He also wants to increase taxes on the poor and middle class while giving another huge tax cut to millionaires and corporations. He has no plans to target inflation. Period.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-08-19 08:39 AM | Reply

~ They have laws that prohibit price increases after the President of the United States or the state's governor has declared a state of emergency in the affected region

Yes in Louisiana too.

The laws were designed to protect the public as well as commerce during a period of time following a natural disaster like a hurricane.

It's like you're labeling the current administration a natural disaster.

#18 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-08-19 10:41 AM | Reply

- the current administration

Has never tried to illegally stay in power after knowing they had lost the election... and caused several deaths in the process.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2024-08-19 11:40 AM | Reply

Rather than forward BOLD populist proposals, I think it would benefit Harris to be more vague about some issues. If we've learned anything from previous Presidential campaigns, instead of making proposals that can easily be shredded before they even leave the gate, she needs to acknowledge the problems as something her Administration will put serious thought and effort into.

After all, the Republican economic policy is the same tired BS they've pushed for decades. Most of us already know what a failure trickle down has been. ..And that Trump healthcare reform is still just "two weeks away".

#20 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-08-19 12:09 PM | Reply

Communism and populism are two different things. Her proposals are communist. Correct and repost. Thx.

#21 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-08-19 12:15 PM | Reply

#21

The only Commies around here live under your bed, doofus.

"But the big flailing tell is his current fixation on communism. She's gone "full communist" with her talk of "price controls."

"Kamala" even sounds sort of like "communist," you see. In Trump's brain, riffing on that counts as clever.

What Harris proposed, among many other ideas, was a Federal Trade Commission crackdown on post-pandemic price gouging.

That some price gouging has taken and is taking place is not seriously disputed.

Economists generally hate the government doing anything about it, though, because, well, the government (to these economists) isn't supposed to do anything ever to mess with the glorious free market.

Interestingly, a person of note once disagreed with that.

He signed Executive Order 13910, which enabled the Justice Department to establish a Covid-19 Hoarding and Price Gouging Task Force.

Want to hazard a guess? Here's a hint: He signed the order on March 18, 2020, and he was the president at the time. Yep. Donald Trump."

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Now, many will say we were in the teeth of a crisis then and are not now. That's true.

And yet, we know that corporate profits are at massive record highs (look at this chart).

If some corporations raised their prices legitimately during shortages but have kept them high after those shortages ended, isn't it the government's business to say "no you don't"?

Of course it is.

Let Trump call that communist all he wants.

If the FTC gets the price of eggs or diapers lowered a bit, it seems safe to say that most swing voters won't care what label Trump and the economics profession put on it."

newrepublic.com

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2024-08-19 12:32 PM | Reply

"Her proposals are communist."

What a riot.

A Communist?!? Wake me when she proposes the end of personal property.

Until then, how about sticking to words you understand?

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-08-19 12:35 PM | Reply

Damn!

I'm missing the Cornell West/Jill Stein "Abandon Harris '24" presser.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2024-08-19 12:53 PM | Reply

Communism and populism are two different things. Her proposals are communist. Correct and repost. Thx.

#21 | Posted by visitor_

When your fascist coup fails on live tv, just call the other side communists.

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-08-19 12:57 PM | Reply

"Her proposals are communist."

Sure, if you're playing Humpty Dumpty with the definition.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-08-19 01:00 PM | Reply

It's like you're labeling the current administration a natural disaster.

That's funny.
The COVID "recession" (downturn) happened in 2020 (Trump).
Biden was inaugurated January 20th, 2021.
Inflation kicked in about 5 month's later with no change in Trump's policies having been made.
The Inflation Reduction Act was signed on August 16, 2022.

Why would an economic disaster not be handled like a natural disaster when it comes to protecting citizens from price gouging?
Relying on the Fed to handle everything is not efficient or particularly intelligent, IMHO.

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2024-08-19 02:01 PM | Reply

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