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Former President Donald Trump's campaign pledges would hasten the insolvency of the Social Security trust fund and lead to a 33% across-the-board cut to all benefits, according to a new analysis from the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB).

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... Former President Donald Trump's campaign pledges would hasten the insolvency of the Social Security trust fund and lead to a 33% across-the-board cut to all benefits ...

Yeah, .... and?

Such a cut to Social Security is what fmr Pres trump's wealthy donors seem to want.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-21 06:43 PM | Reply

It is funny that these 'experts' predict Trump will cut social security benefits because of a shortfall in tax revenue but don't apply that to any other huge deficit spending.

Let's look back at the Trump term.

www.crfb.org

When he took office, US national debt was $19.95T and when he left it was $27.75T, an increase of $7.8T. However, the fed had an unprecedented cash balance of $1.6B at this time. If they were not holding this cash, the debt would have only increased by $6.2T. This, despite the pandemic crushing taxes and having to do direct cash assistance.

Now, we have Biden coming in at the tail end of the pandemic with the economy already under an almost full recovery and Biden growing the debt from $27.75B to $35.5B today (how much more it will increase, who knows?). That is an increase of $7.65T in under 4 years of this disaster Biden/Harris administration.

To put this into perspective, that is INCREASED DEFICIT spending amounting to $23,000 over for every man, woman, and child in the US. This is in addition to the $54,000 the US government spent for every man, woman, and child (non-deficit spending) over the last 4 years. So, in the last 4 year, what did you do with $77,000 that the government spent on your behalf? For a family of 4, this is equivalent of a starter home spent on your family in the last 4 years. Do you see that type of benefit?

#2 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-21 08:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Posted by: deadman (new) | Serious level

#3 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-21 08:37 PM | Reply

"A cut of that size would mean that the typical monthly benefit check of $1,907 in 2024 would be reduced by $629 per month, leaving recipients with average payments of $1,278."

That would be catastrophic

I know I'm supposed to believe everything Trump says except when he's lying.....LOL.

No chance this happens

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-21 08:43 PM | Reply

Posted by: Hans

#5 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-21 08:49 PM | Reply

from the thread article:

"Together, Trump's plans would add about $2.3 trillion to Social Security's cash deficit between fiscal year 2026 and 2035, the CRFB estimated.

"As a result of these higher cash deficits, Social Security trust fund reserves would be depleted much faster than under current law," the analysis noted.

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Trump spokesman Leavitt told CBS MoneyWatch that the former president's plans for "unleashing American energy, slashing job-killing regulations, and adopting pro-growth America First tax and trade policies" would put Social Security "on a stronger footing for generations to come."

However, the CRFB said it was skeptical of those plans. "[W]e've shown that increased energy exploration is unlikely to have a meaningful effect on Social Security " even if the gains were deposited into the trust fund," the analysis said.

The group added that the U.S. would require "unrealistically fast economic growth" to close its existing funding gap."

'
It's the math of the economy, stupid.

Orange Cult Leader wants to pile the debt onto taxpayers for Billionaire Tax Cuts while cutting the throats of seniors.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-21 09:16 PM | Reply

"Orange Cult Leader wants to pile the debt onto taxpayers for Billionaire Tax Cuts while cutting the throats of seniors.
#6 | Posted by Corky"

And yet, Biden has piled on Trillions more in debt than Trump did. You have some explaining to do.

#7 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-21 09:21 PM | Reply

"President Trump approved $8.4 trillion of new ten-year borrowing during his full term in office, or $4.8 trillion excluding the CARES Act and other COVID relief.

President Biden, in his first three years and five months in office, approved $4.3 trillion of new ten-year borrowing, or $2.2 trillion excluding the American Rescue Plan.

President Trump approved $8.8 trillion of gross new borrowing and $443 billion of deficit reduction during his full presidential term.

President Biden has so far approved $6.2 trillion of gross new borrowing and $1.9 trillion of deficit reduction."

www.crfb.org

DeadPedo is SO easy!

Practically a toe-tapping intellectual slut.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-21 09:25 PM | Reply

Study Reveals Both Trump And Harris' Plans Add To The National Debt, But Trump's Proposal Will Inflate It By An Extra $4 Trillion

finance.yahoo.com

Again, from the non-partisan source.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-21 09:34 PM | Reply

"President Biden has so far approved $6.2 trillion of gross new borrowing and $1.9 trillion of deficit reduction."
#8 | Posted by Corky"

National debt under Biden is up $7.65T and we are not yet done with his term. Spin it how you want - more debt will be accumulated under Biden than any prior president.

#10 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-21 09:49 PM | Reply

National debt under Biden is up $7.65T and we are not yet done with his term.

Because the majority of that amount is accrued interest on money borrowed before he entered the White House.

But you knew that before you wrote that sentence, right?

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-21 10:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

DeadPedo is shockingly obvious in the way he lies, um, cherry-picks the data.

Of course, he has no compunction to be interested in the facts.

It's the Lies that matter.

I mean, once one decides a criminal traitor is their political icon, then the truth isn't really a consideration.

It's just so difficult, though, to choose between his utter nonsense and the crfb.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-21 10:09 PM | Reply

"Because the majority of that amount is accrued interest on money borrowed before he entered the White House.
But you knew that before you wrote that sentence, right?
#11 | Posted by tonyroma"

And Trump and EVERY president before them had the same. So, what is the excuse now? How can Biden add trillions more in debt than Trump despite not really being effected by the pandemic? He had multiple vaccines on the 1st day in office and the economic recovery was in full swing. Why is his deficit THIS YEAR so god awful?

But, more importantly, tell me about Springfield. Did you know about the 911 call before I linked you directly to it?

#13 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-21 10:15 PM | Reply

"way he lies, um, cherry-picks the data. Of course, he has no compunction to be interested in the facts.
#12 | Posted by Corky"

Yeah, cherry picking data like the national debt when they came into office and when they left. Yes, very cherry picked indeed.

#14 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-21 10:17 PM | Reply

I'm afraid that the CRFB has rejected your application for employment as an economics expert.

They do mention an opening in the Secretarial Pool, if you're interested.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-21 10:20 PM | Reply

"I'm afraid that the CRFB has rejected your application for employment as an economics expert.
#15 | Posted by Corky"

I don't doubt that. The can't have people working there that can do actual math.

#16 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-21 10:22 PM | Reply

-Secretarial Pool,

It's "administrative assistant" and has been for 30 years or more

Jeez....how old are you?

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-21 10:22 PM | Reply

btw

Trump Administration Abuses Thwart US Pandemic Response

The Brennan Center is tracking Trump administration attacks on government science, ethical violations, and other abuses during the Covid-19 pandemic.

www.brennancenter.org

No wonder you are such a groomed Trumper!

When you aren't being stupid, you're lying.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-21 10:24 PM | Reply

#17 |

If you ever have something to say on topic, it'll be the first time.

But then, you are much better at personal insults... ok, well, that's not true, either.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-21 10:26 PM | Reply

#17 |

If you ever have something to say on topic, it'll be the first time.

But then, you are much better at personal insults... ok, well, that's not true, either.

#16

lmao! They wouldn't give you the time of day.

www.crfb.org

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-21 10:29 PM | Reply

Damn...what is it with some here tonight.

Hans has you all trying to post faster and faster.......don't fall for it.

Poor fuckers......

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-21 10:32 PM | Reply

Here's how Trump handles the Economy, btw...

"Trump US rallies leave behind unpaid dues, again and again

Donald Trump owes US cities for costs associated with putting on a rally including security expenses and police overtime."

www.aljazeera.com

F'er runs Casinos into the ground, and US banks won't touch him; Vlad has financed him for decades... but you clowns want the criminal traitor back in the WH.

Sad.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-21 10:39 PM | Reply

@#21 ... what is it with some here tonight. ...

Projecting?

Again?

Or, maybe i should say...

Still?


#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-21 11:21 PM | Reply

Pink Floyd - Biding My Time (1969)
www.youtube.com

Wow, an ancient tune.

Apropos?

You decide.

Lyrics excerpt...

genius.com

...
Wasting my time
Resting my mind
And I'll never pine
For the sad days and the bad days
When we was workin' from nine to five
...



(fwiw, one of my favorite Pink Floyd tunes...)


#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-21 11:25 PM | Reply

Relics?

Saucerful of Secrets is much better IMO.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-21 11:29 PM | Reply

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