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WSJ: Elon Musk's Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin
Tech billionaire and vocal Trump supporter Elon Musk has talked regularly with Russian President Vladimir Putin for at least two years, according to a new report.
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Now we know why he's been out shilling for Trump. Musk is privy to sensitive information about various U.S. systems.
Reporting includes this:
Elon Musk has regularly talked with Vladimir Putin " and faced 'implicit threats': report "In May 2022, Russia's space chief said in a post on Telegram that Musk would 'answer like an adult' for supplying Starlink to Ukraine's Azov battalion, which the Kremlin had singled out for the ultraright ideology espoused by some members," the Journal reported. The article continued: "Later in 2022, Musk was having regular conversations with 'high-level Russians,' according to a person familiar with the interactions. At the time, there was pressure from the Kremlin on Musk's businesses and 'implicit threats against him,' the person said." That same year, Musk began pushing more Russian-aligned stances, including that SpaceX was losing money by funding terminals in Ukraine, as well as asking his followers on his app, X, to support peace plans that "mirrored some aspects of the Kremlin's offer to Ukraine," the Journal reported. Additionally, Musk has become more critical of American military aid to Ukraine.
"In May 2022, Russia's space chief said in a post on Telegram that Musk would 'answer like an adult' for supplying Starlink to Ukraine's Azov battalion, which the Kremlin had singled out for the ultraright ideology espoused by some members," the Journal reported.
The article continued: "Later in 2022, Musk was having regular conversations with 'high-level Russians,' according to a person familiar with the interactions. At the time, there was pressure from the Kremlin on Musk's businesses and 'implicit threats against him,' the person said."
That same year, Musk began pushing more Russian-aligned stances, including that SpaceX was losing money by funding terminals in Ukraine, as well as asking his followers on his app, X, to support peace plans that "mirrored some aspects of the Kremlin's offer to Ukraine," the Journal reported. Additionally, Musk has become more critical of American military aid to Ukraine.
www.wsj.com
#1 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-24 10:07 PM | Reply
This entire Trump error has gone from the not so sublime, far past the incredibly ridiculous. Every part of the story's pieces makes logical sense and fit together intuitively. Russia's got a person at Trump's right hand that to whom they apparently made 'implicit threats' tied to Putin's ire of Musk letting Ukraine have Starlink which resulted in the deaths of many, many Russians.
Then out of nowhere, Musk buys Twitter, reopens its gates to rightwing flamethrowers, and jumps on the Trump train. Now as lead engineer, he's funded Trump's campaign/PACs with at least $134 million and is giving away a $1 a day for swing state voters.
I'm going to assume that US intelligence already knows all of this but Biden has kept the public lid on due to the volatility of the entire situation.
I wouldn't be surprised - if proven accurate - wasn't leaked by a friendly foreign intelligence agency, trying to thwart Putin by stopping Trump. The kompromat on Musk has to be devastating, along with the spectre of an involuntary window fall.
This is simply radioactive information as it regards the safety and future of this nation - if we can keep it out of the hands of enemies both foreign and domestic. Putin is leaning on Musk and communicating to him and Musk is standing right there next to Trump.
#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-24 11:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7
Here's a link to the original article if you don't have an WSJ subscription:
Elon Musk's Secret Conversations With Vladimir Putin
www.msn.com
And here's an article about reaction to the news of Musk/Putin talks:
Elon Musk's secret talks with Putin spark international concern
#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-25 08:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Boring.
But, have you tried calling him Hitler?
#4 | Posted by deadman at 2024-10-25 09:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
oh cool
I won the pool I had musk and putin somehow connected for today's breaking BS.
I'm getting some esp on tomorrow's pick.....
trump...YES THAT"S IT......tomorrow you'll be back to trump.
or is the image hitler / Mussolini / stalin / pol pot even.
nope...those were already used recently.
well I'm sure the democrat activists in the media will come up with something....
"the committee to elect the democrat" usually does.
--have a great weekend.
#5 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-10-25 09:45 AM | Reply
"Several current and former officials for the U.S., Europe and Russia told The Wall Street Journal Musk has discussed personal topics"
"according to a person familiar with the interactions"
LMAO....
#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-25 09:56 AM | Reply
#4 | Posted by deadman
#5 | Posted by shrimptacodan
#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds
Musk fan-boys are excited.
#7 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-10-25 09:59 AM | Reply
Russia, Russia, Russia. It's always Russian with these guys: Trump, Carlson, Musk. Is anyone surprised?
#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-25 10:09 AM | Reply
#7 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-10-25 09:59 AM | Reply | Flag
It is hilarious that we have yet another top page headline with ghosts accusing someone of wrong doing.
AngryDrunk, like Aroma don't care about ethics in journalism.
#9 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-25 10:10 AM | Reply
You know who knows what Musk and Putin talked about and kept receipts?:
Secrets and Laws @secretsandlaws
As @AshaRangappa_ noted with Trump, Putin certainly recorded all the compromising calls he's had with @elonmusk. So now Putin can blackmail a major US defense contractor, who also happens to be trying to swing the election in favor of Putin's preferred candidate. Cool.
#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-25 10:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
Cut from part of the same cloth as Trump. Both are egotists. They believe they are 'above the law' and will do what 'benefits them, first and foremost', above all else.
#11 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-10-25 10:30 AM | Reply
Trump couldn't spell ethics if you spotted him all six letters in order. The only letter he cares about is the "I".
And this is from Rupert Murdoch's paper, you know, the same person that owns Fox News. It's a multi-sourced story so the editors know who the sources are even if pinheads like Turds don't. Is Murdoch trying to smear Trump? Your complaints are laughable in the face of reality.
The issue here is that Putin is in direct communication with the person funding Trump's campaign to the tune of $134 million and counting. In Turd's world, the Watergate story was bogus too since the source never became public until almost 50 years afterwards. If he had 2 braincells in total he'd understand how anonymous sources work and why they want to remain nameless. Newspapers can be sued for libel if they publish information that they know is false and derogatory and lord knows Musk has the money to sue, so why not wait and see if he does before casting ignorant aspersions because you simply don't like the information being offered?
I guess the Trumpers are showing that America simply isn't meaningful anymore to them if their first complaint is about the reporting instead of the allegation Putin is pressuring Musk for his own misery in Ukraine. And then Musk buys Twitter, removes the fact checking of right wing disinformation, and joins Trump as a surrogate in his campaign while in communication with Putin himself.
National security sacrificed on the altar of Trumpism, how quaint.
#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-25 10:31 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2
So, in the end, Russia is going to win the cold war without firing a shot.
#13 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-10-25 10:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
Elon Musk's "X" is a virulent cesspool of racists, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists.
This South African can potentially be de-naturalized of his US citizenship for "Fraud and Willful Misrepresentation" under the Immigration and Naturalization Act (INA).
Sources:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/4/16/2225845/-Nazism-Bigotry-Disinformation-Thriving-Under- Elon-Musk-s-X-Platform
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-j-chapter-2
#14 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2024-10-25 10:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
This South African can SHOULD potentially be de-naturalized of his US citizenship...
FTFY
#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-25 10:52 AM | Reply
Oh no! Not Russia again. Why didn't they make China the bogeyman? Because our uniparty is in thrall the real threat, China. #RussiaHoax2.0
#16 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-10-25 11:02 AM | Reply
#17 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2024-10-25 11:11 AM | Reply
ROFL, damn the Democrats are really desperate. If all goes according to Dear Leader Putin's plan it's going to be a very long 4 years for some of you ...
#18 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-10-25 11:31 AM | Reply
damn the Democrats
I didn't know that the Democrats are running the Wall Street Journal. Rupert Murdoch is a Democrat. Wow.
You're not very bright, are you?
#19 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-25 11:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
This guy is a defense contractor with the united states government. How is this allowed?
#20 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-10-25 11:38 AM | Reply
The editorial board isn't Murdoch now is it? Are you retarded?
#21 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-10-25 11:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#4 | POSTED BY DEADMAN
MeLon would be more akin to Joseph Goebbels.
The dancing ------- wants to be Trumpy's Maga Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda (The Ministry of Propaganda) obviously.
#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-25 11:40 AM | Reply
#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-25 10:31 AM | Reply | Flag
Rupert Murdoch? Big donor to Hillary - you probably don't remember that one. Murdoch is a media mogul, he makes money off people consuming his version of the news. Do you really think he gives a ---- about the truth?
#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-25 11:42 AM | Reply
WSJ has definitely shifted left as they see Trump as a threat to the deep state uni-party neo-cons. But it's still better than the Altantic, owned by Kamala and Ghislaine Maxwell's good friend, Laurene Powell Jobs. Rumor has it that Ghislaine provided Kamala's husband's nanny.
#24 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-10-25 11:44 AM | Reply
The editorial board isn't Murdoch now is it?
Damn. If there was only a timely story about the owner of one of the nation's largest papers overruling his editorial board.
Oh,... there is.
Billionaire LA Times Owner Stops Kamala Endorsement, Editor Quits
And the story isn't an editorial, it's an investigative piece. But to think that an owner such as Murdoch couldn't kill this story if he wanted to is simply false. It happens all the time. Especially for an owner like Rupert.
Donald Trump tells Rupert Murdoch to help him secure US election victory'
#25 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-25 11:57 AM | Reply
WSJ has definitely shifted left as they see Trump as a threat to the deep state uni-party neo-cons.
Voters Prefer Trump, Not Just His Policies Oct. 24, 2024
#26 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-25 12:01 PM | Reply
Rumor has it that Ghislaine provided Kamala's husband's nanny.
#24 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
Rumor has it you are an unpaid Russian troll (useful idiot), too
Aren't "rumors" fun?
Trumpy's new Minister of Propaganda, Elmo, loves them too.
#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-25 12:09 PM | Reply
The article shows Pres Putin's continuing infiltration into the GOP.
#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-25 12:16 PM | Reply
And the Chinese have infiltrated the Democrat Party ... what's your point?
#29 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-10-25 12:21 PM | Reply
#29 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES
But it was only fantasy The wall was too high, as you can see No matter how he tried, he could not break free ...
And the worms ate into his brain.
#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-25 12:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
@#29 ... what's your point? ...
That all your current alias seems to have are misrepresentations and false equivalencies.
#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-25 01:03 PM | Reply
Let's see here ... Eric Swalwell and the honey pot incident, Kathy Hochul's aid are just two recent examples ... I'm sure I can sift for more if I really have to ...
#32 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-10-25 01:28 PM | Reply
@#32
As I said, false equivalencies.
#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-25 01:59 PM | Reply
No it's very much so not a false equivalency but okay lol
#34 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-10-25 02:39 PM | Reply
Here's short interview with Leon's biographer... including about his, "demon mode'.
www.youtube.com
#35 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-25 02:50 PM | Reply
Trump and Leon enjoy being Putin's butt -----.
#36 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-10-26 08:30 AM | Reply
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