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Sunday, December 15, 2024

Sen. Mitt Romney, a frequent Donald Trump critic who will soon retire from Congress, stood by his criticism of the president-elect's character but said Trump and his MAGA movement now define the Republican Party.

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Mitt Romney, in his quiet way, has always been radical- a role model for public service who defied partisanship. My latest: adamkinzinger.substack.com/p/mitt-romne ...

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-- Adam Kinzinger (@adamkinzinger.bsky.social) December 13, 2024 at 11:40 AM

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"MAGA is the Republican Party and Donald Trump is the Republican Party today," he said."

"Asked what he thinks the legacy of the January 6 attack will be, Romney said he thinks that it will be seen as "a very dark day in American history" and that "it's unfortunate that there are some in the MAGA world that try and paper over it, but I don't think it's possible to do."

But Romney also said he thinks American institutions will hold up in the years to come "because I think people, when faced with the reality of what's at stake, they're going to want to protect the roots of freedom."

No real sign of protecting those roots of freedom from the Party of Billionaires in/as Government.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-15 04:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

MAGA is the Republican Party and Donald Trump is the Republican Party today

Yeah everyone already knew that.

#2 | Posted by qcp at 2024-12-15 08:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Yeppers sadly so much this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-15 09:09 PM | Reply

Yeah, I don't expect much out of Mr "49% of Americans don't pay taxes" - a blatant lie because everyone who actually earns an income pays a minimum of 15.3% federal income tax from the first dollar. He doesn't notice of course - because his only earned income is his senate salary. Everything else is unearned, which isn't subject to payroll tax. And most of his senate income isn't, it only applies to the first $168k.

#4 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-12-15 09:12 PM | Reply

It's pretty bad when a venture capitalist thinks you're scum.

#5 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-15 09:44 PM | Reply

---- Mitt Romney

#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-15 09:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

MAGA sees drones.

(I see the navigation lights on airplanes).

MAGA sees "manned drones".

(Oxymoron?)

MAGA sees drones that are brightly lighted until they think you look at them, and then turn invisible.

MAGA thinks the drones come from an "Iranian mothership".

MAGA thinks the drones are an alien invasion.

MAGA thinks the drones are Biden faking an alien invasion.

The good news is that, for the moment, MAGA turns its ignorance, paranoia, and hysteria to the skies and not to the rest of us.

The bad news is that can change on a dime.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-16 08:31 AM | Reply

The Establishments Big Iraq Adventure, led by Bush-Cheney, signed off on by Biden and Hillary, with the later occupation continually signed off by Romney, killed off the Republican party that Mitt knew. The 18 to 25 year olds they lied to that are the veterans of that conflict have resoundingly rejected them and is actively purging them from the party with Trump as their voice.

Probably shouldn't have invaded Iraq.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-16 09:04 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

MAGA and proud vs woke, clueless and treasonous. Big Rs and big Ds are what screwed our country with stupid wars and idiots making stupid decisions wasting our country.

#9 | Posted by Robson at 2024-12-16 06:35 PM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY ROBSON AT 2024-12-16 06:35 PM | REPLY | FLAG: projecting little d energy

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-16 06:39 PM | Reply

#9

Said like a 4th grader who's been kept back a grade... twice.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-16 08:01 PM | Reply

Romney is in the where are we now file and Kinzinger is ,well, a crybaby. He is really a Democrat, the party of weak men and angry woman.

#12 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-12-17 11:57 AM | Reply

Big Rs and big Ds are what screwed our country with stupid wars

#9 | POSTED BY ROBSON

You opposed the war in Iraq?

My aren't you the sh-- faced liar.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:07 PM | Reply

angry woman.

#12 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Just the one?

Yours?

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Probably shouldn't have invaded Iraq.

#8 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

What a liberal thing to say.

Your idea that Iraq made people turn to Donald is interesting, but contradicted by the fact that I've seen and being with MAGA my entire life.

In regards to war----If Donald says he wants one, MAGA will go. Or make someone else go.

As a movement, MAGA recognizes no hypocrisy.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#8 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

I recall the near-deification of George W. the entire time the MAGA wars were going badly. Even to the point of wanting him on Mt. Rushmore.

That should cause deja vu, because it's now the MAGA buzz for Donald.

MAGA, in part, is about a misplaced application of the religous sense. A gross misapplication. MAGA lives in a word of demons and wizards. It's all 200,000 BC from their point of view.

This hysteria over drones is a good recent example.

No, I don't see and I don't believe in any "principled" explanations for MAGA. It is superstitious, and that explains most of it.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:23 PM | Reply

Your idea that Iraq made people turn to Donald is interesting, but contradicted by the fact that I've seen and being with MAGA my entire life.

In regards to war----If Donald says he wants one, MAGA will go. Or make someone else go.

As a movement, MAGA recognizes no hypocrisy.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:13 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Unfortunately for you the wars we're involved with didn't start when Trump was in office, they started when Biden was in office. Telling that former GOP war mongers like John Bolton and the Cheneys switched to the Democrat party.

#17 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-12-17 12:32 PM | Reply

MAGA lives in a word of demons and wizards. It's all 200,000 BC from their point of view.

This hysteria over drones is a good recent example.

No, I don't see and I don't believe in any "principled" explanations for MAGA. It is superstitious, and that explains most of it.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:23 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Well then explain why Democrats are saying the world is about to end.

#18 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-12-17 12:34 PM | Reply

FishChum, it never ceases to amaze me how proud you are of your ignorance.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-17 12:43 PM | Reply

Well then explain why Democrats are saying the world is about to end.

#18 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

You don't think that Donald will screw things up? To me that's the most obvious thing in the world; no more than what he did last time.

I think that you're actually at peace with any coming Donalesque chaos and destruction. It's all rationalized under a peculiar sense of divine destiny.

Even bringing back polio doesn't faze MAGA. They will shortly use your tax dollars to rebuild that Temple in Jerusalem, the plans for which already exist.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:44 PM | Reply

Unfortunately for you the wars we're involved with didn't start when Trump was in office, they started when Biden was in office.

#17 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

I really don't know what in hell you're talking about.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:45 PM | Reply

It is sometimes possible to argue with the even very pious religous.

It is flatly impossible to argue with the superstitious.

This is why you can't get through to MAGA.

They see evil spirits clustered all around them. And you're just one more.

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 01:14 PM | Reply

Unfortunately for you the wars we're involved with didn't start when Trump was in office, they started when Biden was in office.

#17 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

I really don't know what in hell you're talking about.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:45 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Did you know that Russia invaded Ukraine and Hamas invaded Israel? Did you know that the US has spent $61.5 billion so far in Ukraine alone? That's what I'm talking about. Truly scary that you didn't know about these wars but understandable.

#23 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-12-17 01:20 PM | Reply

I think that you're actually at peace with any coming Donalesque chaos and destruction. It's all rationalized under a peculiar sense of divine destiny.

Even bringing back polio doesn't faze MAGA. They will shortly use your tax dollars to rebuild that Temple in Jerusalem, the plans for which already exist.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag:
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You mean the chaos and destruction caused by the Democrat tantrums during Trump's first term? Bring back polio? You might want to reach out a little, getting all your news from Joy Bahar isn't doing you any favors.

#24 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-12-17 01:24 PM | Reply

Zed is used to being the town fool

By himself.

He sees MAGA coming his way and he's getting kicked around on the stage.

He has competition for the biggest moron competition

Zed's struggling to find a new act.

I worry he's going to resort to drinking his own piss for attention.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-17 01:31 PM | Reply

#24 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

MAGA doesn't believe in science or science-based medicine.

It believes in conspiracies, and in evil spirits.

Therefore we will have polio again and we will have measles.

Like any other primitive society.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 01:35 PM | Reply

25 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Bored?

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 01:36 PM | Reply

You mean the chaos and destruction caused by the Democrat tantrums during Trump's first term?

#24 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Donald is an unwell, incompetent, unfit man.

You're here to cover for all that.

I get it.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 01:37 PM | Reply

25 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Yeah, you must be bored. That's what all the hillbillies do in my neck of the woods, pick fights.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 01:38 PM | Reply

Did you know that Russia invaded Ukraine and Hamas invaded Israel? Did you know that the US has spent $61.5 billion so far in Ukraine alone? That's what I'm talking about. Truly scary that you didn't know about these wars but understandable.

#23 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Donald, by force of his alleged personality, has never had any influence over HAMAS or Putin.

In regards to Putin, Donald's the tail. Putin wags him.

This is another one of your superstitious beliefs: that Donald is somehow strong and other powers are somehow frightened of him.

Donald is exactly what he seems to be: ignorant, venal, and cowardly.

No godlike traits except for you voodoo cultists.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 01:46 PM | Reply

Did you know that the US has spent $61.5 billion so far in Ukraine alone?

#23 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

A bargain for what's been accomplished.

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 01:47 PM | Reply

------- is selling a$2 bill with his face on it

Stay classy magat scum

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-12-17 01:48 PM | Reply

"------- is selling a$2 bill with his face on it"

Isn't that queer.

#33 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2024-12-17 02:19 PM | Reply

Isn't that queer.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2024-12-17 02:19 PM | Reply

Nah. You're thinking of the 3 Dollar Bill.

#34 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-17 02:21 PM | Reply

-Bored?

yeah, a little.

You wanted my attention.

You're welcome

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-17 03:23 PM | Reply

What a liberal thing to say.

Your idea that Iraq made people turn to Donald is interesting, but contradicted by the fact that I've seen and being with MAGA my entire life.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 12:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Instead of telling me I'm wrong so it doesn't shake your world view, you can just go listen to them yourself on Shawn Ryan interviews.

Try John McPhee or pretty much any of the other GWOT vet interviews. They're all anti-establishment-that-lied-to-them Trumpers.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-17 03:35 PM | Reply

They're all anti-establishment-that-lied-to-them Trumpers.

#36 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

How do these people handle Donald's lies?

I mean, he's the establishment.

#37 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 04:00 PM | Reply

#36 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

MAGA is just too amoral and irrational.

It has to be based on something amoral and irrational.

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 04:08 PM | Reply

Zed is used to being the town fool
#25 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You must have FishPuss plonked.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-17 04:08 PM | Reply

And I really have been exposed to MAGA my entire life. It's just been called different things at different times.

It's founding principle is that there is nothing in life that cannot be made better by stomping on it.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 04:10 PM | Reply

POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

"How do these people handle Donald's lies?"

Let me guess. Donald's lies never bother them?

Not much idealism there, no wonder what your podcast guests tell themselves.

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-17 04:18 PM | Reply

-You must have FishPuss plonked.

Zed doesn't like a crowd. He wants to be on the stage all by himself......

#42 | Posted by eberly at 2024-12-17 04:31 PM | Reply

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