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Wednesday, April 16, 2025

Comedian Tim Dillon pushed back on the claim that comedians have undergone a "rightward shift" in recent years and questioned why core American values, such as free speech, are being rebranded as "right-wing." In a sit-down interview with Fox News Digital, Dillon was asked about the perceived shift to the right in comedians' political views, with figures such as Joe Rogan endorsing President Donald Trump in the last election. Dillon took issue with the observation, arguing that values comedians typically support today " such as free speech and advocating for the middle class " are not inherently right-wing.

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They are not rightwing - they are common sense. Further, Trump is not rightwing - he would be a Clinton Democrat from 1992.

It is the left that has abandoned everything they used to stand for.

#1 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-16 07:25 PM | Reply

... undergone a "rightward shift" in recent years and questioned why core American values, such as free speech, are being rebranded as "right-wing." ...

For starters, what MAGA calls "free-speech" seems to be more hatred towards others and violence-provoking speech.

So yeah, those types of speech have appeared to be owned by the right-wing of late.

But free speech?

Why is Pres Trump actively trying to silence those who express their free speech to disagree with him?



#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 07:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Boaz would have to k is something about values to post this.

Scott's would have to be something more than an idiotic s^%*heap to comment.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-16 08:24 PM | Reply

It is the left that has abandoned everything they used to stand for.

#1 | POSTED BY SCOTTS

Especially if it's going to say something as d^*%ing stupid and lacking in self awareness as this -----------.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-16 08:25 PM | Reply

"It is the left that has abandoned everything they used to stand for."

The left stood for something?
I wonder what it was...

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-16 08:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donors getting access to policy.

But hey, that "value" is Bipartisan.

#6 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-04-16 08:46 PM | Reply

For starters, what MAGA calls "free-speech" seems to be more hatred towards others and violence-provoking speech.

No, there's no 'hate speech' exception to the First Amendment reason.com The article also briefly covers the "fighting words" exception.

Ten short videos on the First Amendment by Volokh. www.youtube.com

#7 | Posted by et_al at 2025-04-16 10:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

thanks.

#8 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-16 10:15 PM | Reply

@#7 ... No, there's no 'hate speech' exception to the First Amendment reason.com The article also briefly covers the "fighting words" exception. ...

Thanks for that correction.

From the article you cite ...

... To be sure, there are some kinds of speech that are unprotected by the First Amendment. But those narrow exceptions have nothing to do with "hate speech" in any conventionally used sense of the term. For instance, there is an exception for "fighting words" - face-to-face personal insults addressed to a specific person, of the sort that are likely to start an immediate fight. But this exception isn't limited to racial or religious insults, nor does it cover all racially or religiously offensive statements. Indeed, when the City of St. Paul tried to specifically punish bigoted fighting words, the Supreme Court held that this selective prohibition was unconstitutional (R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992)), even though a broad ban on all fighting words would indeed be permissible. (And, notwithstanding CNN anchor Chris Cuomo's Tweet that "hate speech is excluded from protection," and his later claims that by "hate speech" he means "fighting words," the fighting words exception is not generally labeled a "hate speech" exception, and isn't coextensive with any established definition of "hate speech" that I know of.)

The same is true of the other narrow exceptions, such as for true threats of illegal conduct or incitement intended to and likely to produce imminent illegal conduct (i.e., illegal conduct in the next few hours or maybe days, as opposed to some illegal conduct some time in the future). Indeed, threatening to kill someone because he's black (or white), or intentionally inciting someone to a likely and immediate attack on someone because he's Muslim (or Christian or Jewish), can be made a crime. But this isn't because it's "hate speech"; it's because it's illegal to make true threats and incite imminent crimes against anyone and for any reason, for instance because they are police officers or capitalists or just someone who is sleeping with the speaker's ex-girlfriend. ...



In my view, the key is the phrase "narrow exceptions."

... The same is true of the other narrow exceptions, such as for true threats of illegal conduct or incitement intended to and likely to produce imminent illegal conduct (i.e., illegal conduct in the next few hours or maybe days, as opposed to some illegal conduct some time in the future). ...

thx again.


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-16 10:21 PM | Reply

No, there's no 'hate speech' exception to the First Amendment

Ah, just like there's no local exception for the "separation of church and state"(which does not exist)?

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2025-04-17 07:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#10
Invest in a pocket Constitution and give it a read.
You will be sooo soooprised.
Whoever represents Dawgpatch in DC these days will probably happily supply you with a copy.
Great constituent service.

#11 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-04-17 08:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Ah, just like there's no local exception for the "separation of church and state"(which does not exist)?

#10 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Those voices in yer head getting real loud again? Time to take yer meds!?

The men who led the United States in its revolution against an authoritarian tyrant in England, who wrote the Declaration of Independence and put together the Constitution, were not Christians by any stretch of the imagination.

Beliefs in higher powers, a god or a deity, does not automatically make you a Christian. America was not founded on the Christian Religion. And religion has no place in our government Of The People.

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, - and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arrising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. -John Adams

"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury to my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -Thomas Jefferson

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-17 12:32 PM | Reply

DEI hire Bo-ass thinks the Constitution is "librul"

#13 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-04-17 03:27 PM | Reply

"Core American Values"

Like blacks are 3/5 of a person

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-04-17 07:16 PM | Reply

"The left stood for something?
I wonder what it was...
#5 | Posted by snoofy"

They stood for:
1.) Criminals
2.) Illegals
3.) Pedophiles
4.) LGBTQ+ and other sexual degenerates
5.) White hate
6.) Christian hate

That is your party now - every one of the laws proposed by your party benefits or protects at least one of these groups.

#15 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-17 07:55 PM | Reply

This is how MAGAts display right wing core values.

docs.google.com

#16 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-17 08:13 PM | Reply

Trump is not rightwing

Hey. Look at that. We agree on one thing.

Trump isn't a Conservative or a Christian.

Trump is a failed businessman turned Russian asset who realized he could use hate and racism to win the hearts of conservatives.

As president his only actions are to make himself wealthier. At all cost.

In exchange the GoP gets to turn back civil rights and return America to pre New Deal era.

Basically eliminating all gains unions made for workers and American citizens.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-17 08:27 PM | Reply

Snotty Scotty is a ------- dweeb.

#18 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-04-18 01:52 AM | Reply

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