Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Monday, July 07, 2025

In the US, people are getting away with murder. The clearance rate, the share of cases that result in an arrest or are otherwise solved, was 58% in 2023. In other words, a murderer's chance of getting caught within a year essentially comes down to a coin flip. For other crimes, clearance rates are even lower. Only 8% of car thefts result in an arrest. Compared with its peers, America overall does an unusually poor job of solving killings. The murder clearance rates of other rich nations, including Australia, Britain, and Germany, hover in the 70s, 80s and even 90s. Several issues, including a lack of resources, the sheer volume of cases, and a distrust of the police, have converged to make the jobs of American detectives much more difficult. "It's a serious problem," said Philip Cook, a criminal justice researcher at Duke University. The lack of legal accountability emboldens criminals, leading to more crime and violence resulting in "a vicious cycle."

More

Alternate links: Google News | Twitter

Every eleven minutes, someone uses a firearm to kill someone in the US. American police are the direct descendants of the Slave Patrol, more akin to political control than genuine sleuthing. There are probably more stories of police abuse than a crime being solved on any given day in the US. A USDJ just ruled that an abusive, violent Seattle police officer can be sued. When we add the tsunami of firearms which have permeated the country, distrust of the police because of their bad seeds, and economic inequalities, the result is a high homicide rate and just not enough Columbos' to solve all the crimes.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/19/ec/c319ec2fc380574409a103595622426f.jpg

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

The flip-side to this story is that the German police have yet to shoot and kill 1,000 suspects since 1945. This includes the Volkspolizei of the GDR. In contrast, American police forces kill an average 1,000 suspects per year.

Links:

en.wikipedia.org

statewatch.org

en.wikipedia.org

#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-07 05:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.theguardian.com

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-07-07 06:02 AM | Reply

#2: Excellent Doc, many thanks for that link. An Aussie woman was just convicted of cartoon number two.

My wife published my anthology of short story mysteries last year (under a different pseudonym).

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-07 06:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


The flip-side to this story is that the German police have yet to shoot and kill 1,000 suspects since 1945.

Whats their 100yr running average?

#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-07-07 10:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The more crude and cruel the American culture becomes, the more we see how poorly we have done; we are basically last among major nations in healthcare, for example... and most people don't even know that; we've believed our own myths about being all about Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

Which Way is become a back road, not a highway.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-07 12:15 PM | Reply

#5: Hi Corky: Yup, Americans believed our own myths is exactly right, and others did too. Recently a literate European told me how impressed he was by President Woodrow Wilson's 'Fourteen Points' platform at the Treaty of Versailles following the bloodbath of WW1 and the dissolution of the ancien regime empires. Then I advised him that Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, was a racist and the same rights he wanted minority groups to have in Europe ('self-determination'), Wilson did not want for people of color in the US. Then I added that Wilson purposely censored Spanish Flu casualty numbers to keep American morale up during the war (as did the French, UK, and Germans). The US military was the largest vector of COVID between the bases, railways, and trans-Atlantic troop carriers. Only neutral Spain reported about this mysterious illness and hence its appellation. Lastly, I informed him the Versailles Diktat was never ratified by the US Senate so the USG signed separate treaties with the Central Powers formally concluding the Great War.

My poor friend was stunned. The American myth used to work globally, but not anymore.

Link:

en.wikipedia.org

#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-07 01:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

50% of murderers get away with it - IN DEEP BLUE -------- CITIES. Also, it has little, if anything to due with staffing levels. It is due to gang related killings (which appear more or less random) and a culture in which people that reside in these deep blue -------- cities refuse to talk to the police. Deep blue -------- cities like Chicago and Oakland have clearance rates in the 30's or below.

Further, it should be noted that the % of murders committed by blacks in the US hover around 60% for cases in which a suspect has been identified. Taking into account the case closure rate is MUCH, MUCH lower in deep blue -------- cities with a lot of gang and drug violence, the actual murder rate for blacks in the US are about 70% of all murders. We have huge issue in the US and it starts with the culture being taught in deep blue -------- cities.

#7 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-07 08:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Red state --------- have the highest murder rates because they're run by repug ----------.

www.cdc.gov

#8 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-07 08:12 PM | Reply

#8: And somebody posted today that a community in New Mexico is drawing retirees away from Florida and other locales because of low costs. But New Mexico has a 14.5 death rating, 3x higher than NYS. I guess the costs of funerals are cheaper in NM than NYS.

#9 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-07 08:42 PM | Reply

"Red state --------- have the highest murder rates because they're run by repug ----------.
#8 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

There is no such thing as a 'red state' - you have red suburban and rural areas surrounding deep blue -------- cities. Depending on the size and number of deep blue -------- cities that are in a state, the state is qualified by red or blue by stupid people that don't understand the dynamics at play. Take Tennessee for an example - Memphis accounts for 60-70% of all statewide murders (depending on the year) but accounts for under 10% of the population. Memphis voted 2:1 for Harris despite the state voting 2:1 for Trump. So, your biggest issue with this 'red state' is the deep blue -------- that resides within it causing all the problems. Rinse and repeat this for Michigan, etc and even for California and New York.

#10 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-07 08:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Red state --------- have a murder crisis, -------.

www.thirdway.org

#11 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-07 08:58 PM | Reply

"#11 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot"

Read #10 again - real slow this time so you can understand it -------.

#12 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-07 09:00 PM | Reply

Read the link in #11, you scat-munching pedo.

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-07 09:03 PM | Reply

Let's have some more fun with numbers on the 'red' states. Omaha, Nebraska is known as the 'blue dot' in the otherwise red state. Omaha accounted for a ~45% of all murders despite being under 30% of the total state population and - unsurprisingly, voted for Kamala in 2024.

Again, a pattern that is repeated over and over and over again. Deep blue -------- cities, whether in 'red' states or 'blue' states are crime filled --------s. Red state just have enough normal people to outvote them but is does not change the characteristics of the people residing in the deep blue -------- cities - violent, angry liberal voters.

#14 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-07 09:07 PM | Reply

The excuse that sky high red state murder rates are because of their blue cities is without merit. Even after removing the county with the largest city from red states, and not from blue states, red state murder rates were still 20% higher in 2021 and 16% higher in 2022.

Scatberg loses again.

#15 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-07 09:09 PM | Reply

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

Tell me the "red" state that does not have a deep blue -------- city OR - in the case of mountain and plains states - widespread Indian reservations disproportionately driving up the murder rates. The 'red' part of the states is not the problem.

#16 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-07 09:14 PM | Reply

While murder rates have fallen, they're still significantly higher in red states than blue states.

That's a fact.

#17 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-07 09:21 PM | Reply

"#15 | Posted by reinheitsgebot"

Again with your fake 'red state' vs. 'blue state' --------. Counties won by Kamala represent 65% of all murders and 50% of the US population. For Trump, it is 35% and 50% - counties won by Democrats are more violent at almost a 2:1 ratio - I don't give 2 ----- if the counties are grouped into a 'red state' or 'blue state' - the problem is that murder is committed in Dem voting/controlled areas at shocking rates.

Of course, this is the common sense conclusion as we also know that blacks represent 60%+ of all murders and vote Democrat at an 80% clip.

I would even go further to state that the already ultraviolent Dem counties benefit from a largely non-violent red population as a VAST majority of the crimes in blue counties are committed by Dems or Democrat aligned groups (see the above stats on blacks as evidence for this).

Just stop with the fake 'red state' vs. 'blue state' divide - it is deep blue -------- cities vs. normal people living in red areas.

#18 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-07 09:30 PM | Reply

You're a ------- idiot.

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-07 10:15 PM | Reply

Plus, I like those odds. Watch your back, lil Jeffy.

#20 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-07 10:15 PM | Reply

Oh, and you're a ------- racist cowardly pus-filled ----. Buddy.

#21 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-07 10:16 PM | Reply

"#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead"

You skipped right by the part where the data does not support your ridiculous argument and you admit you are wrong - how about we circle back to that -------?

#22 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-07 10:23 PM | Reply

"#21 | Posted by LegallyYourDead"

What part is racist?

1.) Saying that blacks commit 60%+ of murders in the US?
2.) Saying that blacks vote Democrat at an 80% clip?
3.) Noticing the two points above to be facts?

#23 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-07 10:26 PM | Reply

You're a ------- lying racist pile of ----, Jeff. None of your so-called "statistics" are true. And, again, we will take care of things French Revolution style, you mewling ----.

#24 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-07 10:32 PM | Reply

LGH hides behind his keyboard trying to act all tough. Also, this loser just calls everyone "Jeff".

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-07 10:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bwahaha. I'm kicking all of your pathetic sock puppets ass. Go ---- yourself, junior.

#26 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-07 10:45 PM | Reply

"None of your so-called "statistics" are true.
#24 | Posted by LegallyYourDead"

1.) Saying that blacks commit 60%+ of murders in the US? - ucr.fbi.gov

Here is on the 'solved' cases - does not include the 40% unsolved murder rates in the deep blue -------- cities as they lack a suspect

2.) Saying that blacks vote Democrat at an 80% clip? - www.ap.org

-------- like you are unprepared to have an actual debate because you are putting up feelings vs. facts.

#27 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-07 11:04 PM | Reply

Why do nearly half the murders go unresolved?

Could it be because TV shows like CSI... tell the murderers how to hide their tracks?

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-07 11:42 PM | Reply

Squats the -------- liar. ---- off, Jeff.

#29 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-07 11:50 PM | Reply

"#29 | Posted by LegallyYourDead"

Again - where is the lie -------? It is a lie because it hurts your fee-fee's?

#30 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-08 12:22 AM | Reply

...posted by Scotts...

So why don't the state governments work on solving the problems of the blue cities within their state? Maybe if the citizens of these cities thought the state government gave a s#!7 about them, they would vote red.

#31 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-07-08 06:49 AM | Reply

"#31 | Posted by TFDNihilist"

Why don't the state governments in Blue States work on solving their blue cities problem like Oakland or Chicago? Ultimately, politics is local and if a population is so stupid as to continue to vote in those people which tolerate a violent, deep blue -------- to develop, then they are getting what they voted for.

#32 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-08 09:19 AM | Reply

"Maybe if the citizens of these cities thought the state government gave a s#!7 about them, they would vote red."

There is almost no separation between "these cities" and "state government". State government is typically located in "these cities" and the representation in state government is heavily weighted in those cities.

Which is why the whole red state/blue state dynamic is so stupid.

As if poor people in rural Illinois are different from their counterparts in Texas or Oklahoma.

And poor people in metro Chicago are different from their counterparts in Dallas or Houston.

JFC, people have lost their minds.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2025-07-08 10:03 AM | Reply

"Which is why the whole red state/blue state dynamic is so stupid.
#33 | Posted by eberly"

I have tried explaining it to them already. Maybe you will have better luck.

#34 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-08 10:28 AM | Reply

...politics is local...
#32 | Posted by ScottS

Wrong. How does a city run its public transportation or fund its schools if the state doesn't give them the money? How do they fix their water problems if the state cuts the budget?
I grew up in a big city in a conservative state. The legislature actively fights the cities constantly.

#35 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-07-08 11:38 AM | Reply

The Jackson, Mississippi water crisis refers to the ongoing issues with the city's water system, particularly the O.B. Curtis Water Treatment Plant, which failed in late August 2022 due to flooding and aging infrastructure, leaving over 150,000 residents without safe drinking water. The crisis highlights a long history of neglect and underinvestment in the city's water infrastructure, leading to frequent boil-water notices, low water pressure, and unsafe water quality.
(Google AI)

Who do you think under funds them?

#36 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-07-08 11:40 AM | Reply

The following HTML tags are allowed in comments: a href, b, i, p, br, ul, ol, li and blockquote. Others will be stripped out. Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

Anyone can join this site and make comments. To post this comment, you must sign it with your Drudge Retort username. If you can't remember your username or password, use the lost password form to request it.
Username:
Password:

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy

Drudge Retort