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Monday, October 27, 2025

Republican congressman Randy Fine has called for an investigation into the citizenship status of NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani. The Islamophobic Florida representative posted that "we have clearly suffered from massive naturalization fraud," claiming that some immigrants "swore an oath to America but clearly came to destroy it." Mamdani, the Democratic front runner in the NYC mayoral race, was born in Kampala, Uganda, in 1991. His family later immigrated to the US and he was raised in NYC, naturalizing in 2018. The AIPAC-funded Fine brayed it was "time to go back and review every naturalization of the past 30 years, starting with Zohran Mamdani, Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, and journalist Mehdi Hasan"and where fraud is found, denaturalize and deport." Congresswoman Ilhan Omar was born in Somalia and Mehdi Hasan was born in the UK; both of whom are Muslim. There are ~4.5m Muslims in the US, making up less than 2% of the US population.

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Early balloting began this weekend in NYC and polling sites have been flooded with voters. Despite the hideous Islamophobic smear campaign against the amiable Zohran Mamdani, he still commands a double-digit lead over the mercenary Andrew Cuomo. Like Judas Iscariot, this slimy reprobate betrayed the Democratic Party for 30 pieces of silver. Dummkopf Trumpf, the landlords, the oligarchs, and AIPAC are desperate to beat the young Muslim upstart who has a plan to make NYC more affordable for its residents. Moreover, as Mayor of NYC, Zohran can give voice to the vulnerable and dispossessed people of the world from the "bully pulpit" of City Hall, notably ethnically-cleansed Palestinians. Nota Bene: Catherine Connolly (68), an independent socialist, was elected Ireland's next president in a landslide on Saturday. She ran on a ticket of of inclusion and compassion. Link: NYT: Zohran Still Leads in Polls.

"Newman!"

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Let's give Mamdami a chance.

He's a lot less crazy than the MAGA out for his blood.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-27 08:39 AM | Reply

Nice headline. LOL

they aren't trying to strip him of citizenship. They are trying to fool NY voters into believing he isn't an American.

Wrong...but it's not "striping him of citizenship".

#2 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-27 09:08 AM | Reply

At least 13,000 people crammed into Forest Hills Stadium in Queens attending "The New York Is Not for Sale" rally on Sunday, attended by NYS Governor Kathy Hochul.

Campaigning with Zohran are two Ashkenazi Jews: US Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and City Comptroller Brad Lander. House Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) drew massive applause when she said NYC "was built by Irish people fleeing famine, Italians escaping fascism, Jews seeking shelter after the Holocaust, and blacks escaping Jim Crow laws.'

Meanwhile Zohran's rival, Islamophobe Andrew "Judas Iscariot" Cuomo, spent Sunday skulking around NYC trying to explain why he idiotically bleated that Zohran Mamdani would laugh if terrorists attacked our city.

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-27 02:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

it's not "striping him of citizenship".
#2 | Posted by eberly

"Republican congressman Randy Fine has called for an investigation into the citizenship status of NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani"

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-27 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Republicans and AIPAC consider Zohran another Obama: "Go back to where you came from!"

The porcine Randy Fine, a Newman doppelganger, should move to Israel since he loves it more than his own state of Florida which is beset by soup-to-nuts disasters, all the handiwork of the abysmally dysfunctional Republican Party led by pit fiends Ron DeSatan or mega-oligarch Senator Rick Scott.

#5 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-27 03:07 PM | Reply

"They are trying to fool NY voters into believing he isn't an American."

That will only work on people who were already not voting for him. But even then, he has votes to spare.

#6 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2025-10-27 03:16 PM | Reply

The latest polls continue to show the amiable Zohran Mamdani has a double-digit lead over despicable Andrew "Benedict Arnold" Cuomo, a sexual predator who cravenly betrayed the Democratic Party of his father, the late NYS Governor Mario Cuomo.

For 30 pieces of silver, this Judas Iscariot has become a pariah of the Democratic Party in the Empire State.

Andrew Cuomo and George Santos should both consider moving to Israel after the election since they consider Israelis and Jews more important than New Yorkers of all religions (e.g. Catholics, Jews, Buddhists, Protestants, Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims) or atheists.

www.nytimes.com

#7 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-27 03:35 PM | Reply

-That will only work on people who were already not voting for him.

They obviously disagree with you. They think there are a lot on the fence and this will push them over.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-27 03:53 PM | Reply

it's not "striping him of citizenship".
#2 | Posted by eberly
"Republican congressman Randy Fine has called for an investigation into the citizenship status of NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani"
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-27 02:52 PM | Reply

He doesn't care enough to read the articles.

#9 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-27 03:55 PM | Reply

-Randy Fine has called for an investigation into the citizenship status of NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani

which Randy knows will turn up exactly nothing. He's not trying to strip him of his citizenship. He's powerless to do so.

He didn't even say he wants to strip him of his citizenship.......but called for an investigation.....which nobody is going to do.

He's trying to move voters off the center.........

-He doesn't care enough to read the articles.

Obviously, I did and obviously, you didn't.

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-27 04:00 PM | Reply

Randy Fine's braying is presented as a pitch to see if the people who bother him can be stripped of their citizenship.
Headline makes perfect sense.

#11 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-10-27 04:45 PM | Reply

Republican Congressman phatphuq Randy "Not So" Fine wants to deny Americans universal healthcare as enjoyed by all Israeli citizens in a top-ten ranked medical system where the term "medical bankruptcy" does not exist, while Zohran Mamdani wants "no-cost child care" and public funding for NYC transgender patients.

All of Zoharn's ideas could be easily funded by taxing the fatcat NYC oligarchs, banks, and Wall Street.

Who is the real "American" here and who should be deported, repugnant Republican Randy Fine or soft-spoken Democrat Zohran Mamdani?

www.i24news.tv

newrepublic.com

readsludge.com

www.zohranfornyc.com

#12 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-27 05:06 PM | Reply

Typo fixed to read: "All of Zohran's ideas could be easily funded by taxing the fatcat NYC oligarchs, banks, and Wall Street."

#13 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-27 05:40 PM | Reply

Time to shoot old white billionaires.

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-10-27 06:25 PM | Reply

And good-for-nothing Randy Fine is making 174,000 per annum salary, with platinum healthcare in Congress, paid for by hardworking American taxpayers while he denies us affordable healthcare and brays Islamophobic hate speech.

Last year a judge ruled this human pockmark to be in contempt of court and to attend anger management classes.

www.wesh.com

What a fkkking country we have.

#15 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-27 09:23 PM | Reply

**** Republicans, Oligarchs, Slumlords, AIPAC in Complete Apoplexy Over Zohran Mamdani ****

  • Human gumboil Ron DeSatan, Florida's inept Republican governor, slimed both Zohran Mamdani and House Democrat Ilhan Omar and quipped what he might do if Mamdani is elected Mayor of NYC: "Look, if I have to build a wall on I-95 ... maybe we'll have to do it." floridapolitics.com

  • Chief Junta Propagandist Steve Bannon: "Marxist Jihadist" Mamdani Is "Illegal citizen" and must be "denaturalized and sent out of the country," he brayed on his odious daily podcast. Not linked.

  • Good-for-nothing Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson: "Zohran Mamdani is ending The Democratic Party. He is expected to take the helm of one of the most important cities in the world and the largest city in America, and he now has the full blessing of the Democrat leader in the House of Representatives. It is shocking, and that leader and all the other Democrats are going to co-own the consequences of what they do to America's largest city." youtu.be

  • #16 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-27 11:15 PM | Reply

    The amount of hatred and fear they are trying to smear Zohran with just shows how much they fear his message and popularity.

    The people are tired of republiturds and republiturd light candidates. They're tired of the government protecting pedophiles and billionaires while voters are left to starve caught between poverty wages and ever increasing food and housing costs.

    They fear his victory will inspire a generation of Mamdani like candidates that will kick their corrupt asses to to the curb.

    #17 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-10-28 07:32 AM | Reply

    Do it, Republicans.

    The publicn reaction should prove how much Americans agree with Trump's "mandate".

    #18 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-10-28 04:01 PM | Reply

    The national attention this election is receiving is significant.

    The oligarchs are terrified by the prospect of working class Americans being represented by our politicians.

    Name another mayor from any other city in America that has received the same amount of attention Zohran Mamdani is receiving.

    #19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-28 04:46 PM | Reply

    He didn't even say he wants to strip him of his citizenship.......but called for an investigation.
    #10 | Posted by eberly

    You're lying, Eberly.

    I'll demonstrate, by asking a question you can't answer.

    What primary purpose could the investigation serve, other than stripping Mamdani's citizenship?

    #20 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 04:52 PM | Reply

    Of course he lying. For attention.

    www.theguardian.com

    An Irish grandmother who has lived in the US for most of her life and holds a green card is facing deportation because she wrote a bad cheque for $25 in 2015.

    Donna Hughes-Brown, 58, was detained in July after landing in Chicago on a flight from Dublin and is being held in isolation in a detention centre in Kentucky. She has lived in the US since 1977, has five children and grandchildren, and ran a horse farm in Troy, Missouri.

    Her husband, Jim Brown, a US citizen and military veteran, told reporters his wife was not a criminal and that he "100%" regretted voting for Donald Trump as president.

    He said she had been detained on a misdemeanour relating to a $25 cheque she signed a decade ago and for which she made restitution and received probation.

    She was detained under legislation amended on 4 July as part of Trump's sweeping "one big beautiful bill" act. The couple visited Ireland that month for a funeral. When they landed at Chicago's O'Hare airport on 29 July a police officer was waiting for her on the ramp.

    Five days later she was transferred to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) facility in Kentucky, where she told her husband conditions were "deplorable". He lost contact with her this week when she was moved to an isolation cell, he told the Irish Times.

    Brown thinks her requests for low-sodium diet might be the reason she was moved. "[They] tried to feed her hot dogs and chilli mac. She probably told them after the fifth time they tried to serve her: I'm not eating that.' So they locked her up. I haven't heard from her in three days now."

    Brown said a deportation was scheduled for 17 September. "Hopefully they'll dismiss it. We have 40 character witnesses we sent to the lawyer."

    Hughes-Brown was born in England and grew up in Ireland before moving as an 11-year-old to the US, where she renewed her green card but never became a citizen.

    Brown told Newsweek that his wife did volunteer work for the homeless and poor. Last October, instead of celebrating her birthday, she helped to fill a horse trailer with supplies for victims of Hurricane Helene and delivered it to North Carolina, he said.

    Brown, who served in the navy and marines for decades, said he had supported Trump's promise to deport "criminal illegal immigrants" but that federal authorities were targeting other people to reach quotas.

    "You look at the news, and they're not telling the truth about what's actually happening to a lot of legal immigrants. What's bad is that Trump is so demeaning to people, and he's so condescending and so retaliatory that people are afraid to say anything."

    The case has parallels with other cases, including that of Cliona Ward, a green card holder who was detained in April at San Francisco airport after a visit to Ireland because of offences dating back almost 20 years. She was released in May.

    THIS is what Republicans are trying to do to Zohran Mamdanis.

    #21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-28 05:17 PM | Reply

    Republicans are terrified by what Mamdanis represents.

    #22 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-28 05:18 PM | Reply

    Republicans are terrified by what Mamdanis represents.
    #22 | Posted by Alexandrite

    They're terrified that he'll get elected and actually improve life for New Yorkers, that his policies might work, making him and his ideas popular.

    If they truly believed socialism would fail, they'd be cheering him on. They'd want him to win, to implement those policies, and to watch them backfire, proving once and for all that "socialism" can't work in a city like New York, let alone in America.

    But they're not doing that. They're doing the exact opposite and that speaks volumes.

    #23 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 05:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

    -THIS is what Republicans are trying to do to Zohran Mamdanis.

    treat him like a bad check writer?

    No....they are trying to cost him an election. they are trying to frighten new york voters into staying home.

    This is what was successfully done to Kamala Harris. Frighten voters into staying home. How? by branding her a ---- and an opportunist who can't handle being president and exploiting what really scared folk...... Her gender and her race.

    And look at how many people who voted for Biden last time stayed home this past election. I think it worked.

    That's what they are trying to do to Mamdanis.

    You don't have run in front of a truck to prove me wrong, Alex. Just disagree and move on.

    Calm down, for Christs sakes.

    #24 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-28 05:51 PM | Reply

    -They're terrified that he'll get elected and actually improve life for New Yorkers, that his policies might work, making him and his ideas popular.

    Is that how you would describe the opposition to Trump?

    #25 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-28 05:52 PM | Reply

    Is that how you would describe the opposition to Trump?
    #25 | Posted by eberly

    The reaction to Mamdani does echo how people responded to Trump in 2016. But the context is totally different.

    In 2016, Trump had never held office, and most of the opposition came from people who saw him as corrupt, power-hungry, and obsessed with notoriety (not because they feared his ideas might work). They thought he'd use the presidency to enrich himself and after seeing how things played out, they weren't wrong.

    Mamdani's opposition, on the other hand, isn't about personal ethics or corruption. It's ideological. He's pushing for a level of socialism (e.g., rent freezes, city-run groceries, and free public transit, etc.) that's never really been implemented at this scale in the U.S. The fear isn't that he'll fail; it's that he might actually succeed and prove those ideas popular.

    That's the key difference. With Trump, people feared the man and his proven corruption. With Mamdani, they fear a movement that could spread if proven to be impactful and popular.

    #26 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    Very well said, Rsty.

    #27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-28 06:28 PM | Reply

    www.rawstory.com

    #28 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-28 06:31 PM | Reply

    A week away from Election Day in New York City, a national economic justice group on Tuesday released a report detailing how billionaires "outraged at the prospect of the rich and corporations paying higher taxes" have spent millions of dollars to defeat Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani.

    "Just 62 billionaires and descendants of billionaire families (billionaire spenders') as of October 14th have contributed over one-third"37%, or $18.7 million"of all the donations collected by so-called outside expenditure groups involved in the race," according to the Americans for Tax Fairness Action Fund (ATFAF) report, Billionaires Buying Gracie Mansion.

    The publication notes that "almost all of that money has backed former New York state Gov. Andrew Cuomo," who is running as an Independent after losing the Democratic primary to Mamdani, a democratic socialist in the state Assembly who has campaigned on promises to make the metropolis more affordable for everyday people and "tax the rich!"

    #29 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-28 06:31 PM | Reply

    "a level of socialism (e.g., rent freezes, city-run groceries, and free public transit, etc.) that's never really been implemented at this scale in the U.S."

    Its all been done.

    1. NYC and other cities have had rent controlled apartments for many years.
    2. Seattle has free city buses for five or ten years -- it made them rolling homeless shelters and eventually they stopped.
    3. Everyone in the military gets a government run grocery store called the PX.

    #30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 08:20 PM | Reply

    Best comment on this was Mamdani pointing out how one of NYC's ideologically opposed oligarchs has spent over $1M advertising against Mamdani's tax on the rich.

    But the amount Mamdani would raise his taxes is less than $1M.

    #31 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 08:23 PM | Reply

    From what I am seeing on local NYC news, Mr Cuomo seems to be gaining on Mr Mamdani, cutting Mr Mamdini's lead in half.

    Will the gain be enough to matter by next Tuesday? I dunno ...

    #32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-28 08:57 PM | Reply

    @#32

    And, if I may add ...

    the political commercials for the NYC Mayoral race and the NJ Governor race have been taking a new low, imo.

    For example ...

    Cuomo condemned over racist AI ad depicting criminals for Zohran Mamdani'
    www.theguardian.com

    ... New York City mayoral hopeful Andrew Cuomo has been widely labeled as racist after his official X account posted " and then deleted " an AI-generated ad depicting "criminals for Zohran Mamdani".

    Not even 20 minutes into the second mayoral debate, Cuomo's official account, @andrewcuomo, tweeted the video. It was reshared by many before being deleted.

    The Cuomo and Mamdani campaigns did not immediately respond to the Guardian's request for comment.

    The video, which has been saved and reshared by various people, runs a little over two minutes and opens with an AI iteration of Mamdani, first running through the streets of New York and then eating rice with his hands.

    It goes on to show a Black man in a keffiyeh shoplifting, a man abusing a woman, a sex trafficker, a drug dealer, and others, all showing their support for Mamdani.

    Reaction to the video, which was re-uploaded by journalist Prem Thakker, was fast and negative. ...


    But Mr Cuomo seems to need the support of Republicans in NYC, and that ad looks like it was his campaign's way to get that support.

    #33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-28 09:02 PM | Reply

    Everyone in the military gets a government run grocery store called the PX.
    #30 | Posted by snoofy

    Yet regular citizens don't have access to this. Now you get the point?

    #34 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 09:21 PM | Reply

    Yet regular citizens don't have access to this. Now you get the point?
    #34 | Posted by rstybeach11

    Military housewives seem pretty regular to me. Actually so do enlistees. So I'm not sure what you're getting at.

    #35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 09:37 PM | Reply

    -The fear isn't that he'll fail; it's that he might actually succeed and prove those ideas popular.

    Do you mean popular or successful?

    It's clear the ideas are already popular.

    #36 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-28 09:37 PM | Reply

    The fear isn't that he'll fail; it's that he might actually succeed and prove those ideas popular.

    vs

    The fear isn't that he'll fail; it's that he might actually succeed and prove those ideas successful.

    #37 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 09:39 PM | Reply

    Military housewives seem pretty regular to me. Actually so do enlistees. So I'm not sure what you're getting at.
    #35 | Posted by snoofy

    The only Americans with access to government-run grocery stores right now are in the military and those affiliated. Extending that model to civilians would be a first in U.S. history. We've subsidized food before, but we've never actually run the grocery stores ourselves.

    #38 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 10:05 PM | Reply

    "Extending that model to civilians"

    Military wives are civilians, I thought I was kinda driving that point home earlier.

    #39 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 10:06 PM | Reply

    "We've subsidized food before, but we've never actually run the grocery stores ourselves."

    Well, except all those PX's...

    #40 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 10:07 PM | Reply

    The Museums on the National Mall have gift shops...

    #41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 10:08 PM | Reply

    #36 | Posted by eberly

    Yeah, you're right. The ideas themselves already poll well. I meant "popular" in the after-the-fact sense: if he actually made them work, they'd go from being popular talking points to proven policy. That's what scares his critics! Success turns slogans into precedent.

    #42 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 10:14 PM | Reply

    Well, except all those PX's...
    #40 | Posted by snoofy

    You refer to them as PXs, not grocery stores. Thanks for proving my point.

    #43 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 10:15 PM | Reply

    "Extending that model to civilians would be a first in U.S. history."

    I suspect you are running a little lean on facts and history, friend.

    "City-owned grocery stores have popped up in small towns like Saint Paul, Kansas and big cities like Atlanta."
    theweek.com

    #44 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 10:17 PM | Reply

    "You refer to them as PXs, not grocery stores."

    I called them PXs because that's what they're called.
    Ever been in one? It's closer to a Costco or a Super Wal-Mart. A lot more than just groceries.

    #45 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 10:19 PM | Reply

    Military wives are civilians, I thought I was kinda driving that point home earlier.
    #39 | Posted by snoofy

    Regular (*unaffiliated to military) citizens...

    Is that good enough for you? If so, maybe opine upon the actual context.

    #46 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 10:20 PM | Reply

    Ever been in one? It's closer to a Costco or a Super Wal-Mart. A lot more than just groceries.
    #45 | Posted by snoofy

    I've never been to one because I am a Regular (*unaffiliated to military) citizen.

    You catching on now?

    #47 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 10:21 PM | Reply

    Military wives can be some of the worst Karens imaginable. Actually I can imagine them storming the NYC stores just to complain that having other government run stores diminishes the value of their stores, like they complained gay marriage cheapens the value of their marriage. No honey you sleeping around while your husband is in Afghanistan is what diminished your marriage.

    #48 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 10:23 PM | Reply

    I've never been to one because I am a Regular (*unaffiliated to military) citizen.
    You catching on now?
    #47 | Posted by rstybeach11

    I don't believe I am.
    What am I supposed to be catching on to with that comment?

    #49 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 10:27 PM | Reply

    What am I supposed to be catching on to with that comment?
    #49 | Posted by snoofy

    PXs aren't open to the general public, only to service members and their families. So while they're technically government-run, they don't qualify as civilian grocery stores.

    Mamdani's proposal would be the first time a U.S. city operates that kind of store for everyone.

    You drinking IPAs tonight by chance?

    #50 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 10:37 PM | Reply

    "Mamdani's proposal would be the first time a U.S. city operates that kind of store for everyone."

    Oh you mean this?

    I'll include one sentence before and after since those sentences seem very applicable here.

    Mamdani's idea is "less radical than critics portray," said CNN. City-owned grocery stores have popped up in small towns like Saint Paul, Kansas and big cities like Atlanta. That makes them "more common than people are aware of," said Nevin Cohen, director of the City University of New York's Urban Food Policy Institute.
    theweek.com
    #44 | Posted by snoofy

    #51 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 10:41 PM | Reply

    You drinking IPAs tonight by chance?
    #50 | Posted by rstybeach11

    Good idea! I went for Dogfish Head. Not sure how available that is on the Left Coast.

    #52 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 10:41 PM | Reply

    #51 | Posted by snoofy

    That's a good pull, and you're right! A few cities have opened small, publicly run grocery stores, usually in food deserts where private chains have pulled out. Baldwin, Florida, and St. Paul, Kansas are clearly prime examples.

    What makes Mamdani's proposal different is scale and intent. Those cases were isolated stopgaps, IMO. He's talking about a citywide network of publicly operated stores serving everyone! Not one-off responses to local crises.

    So yeah, the idea's been tested in miniature, but never as a core part of an urban economic model. That's a distinction with a difference, right?

    #53 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 10:52 PM | Reply

    Good idea! I went for Dogfish Head. Not sure how available that is on the Left Coast.
    #52 | Posted by snoofy

    Sierra Nevada Torpedo for me this evening.

    #54 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 10:53 PM | Reply

    "What makes Mamdani's proposal different is scale and intent."

    He's talking five stores. It's not much in terms of scale. Intent is pretty similar too, he wants lower income people in NYC to have access to quality nutritious food, and not so much the stuff you get at Dollar General.

    Personally I would take a much more radical approach. I would be running soup kitchens like they do at Rainbow Gathering. Which scales well; every camp has one. It was Garick's idea, and he got the idea when his Uncle Sam sent him to Vietnam. So I can promise you it's a very workable, very implementable idea. But hey, handouts to people needing food, who does this Snoofy guy think he is, Jesus?

    #55 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-28 10:58 PM | Reply

    "Argh! Stupid Muslim Mamdani! Blargh! Deport him back to Kenya with Obama! Socialist Communist Marxist Muslim! Gargh! Screw the poor! Blargh!"

    #56 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-28 10:58 PM | Reply

    @#51 ... Mamdani's idea is "less radical than critics portray," said CNN. City-owned grocery stores have popped up in small towns like Saint Paul, Kansas and big cities like Atlanta. That makes them "more common than people are aware of," said Nevin Cohen, director of the City University of New York's Urban Food Policy Institute. ...

    One other aspect that many of the locals know (and has been stated on the local NYC news many times), but may not be known nationally ...

    Many of the policies that Mr Mamdani wants to put into place need approval from the NY State legislature for them to go into effect.

    That may be why Mr Cuomo has turned to racist ads to try to gain points, instead of debating the policy proposals of Mr Mamdani.




    #57 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-28 11:03 PM | Reply

    But hey, handouts to people needing food, who does this Snoofy guy think he is, Jesus?

    #55 | Posted by snoofy

    Ummmm....yes?

    #58 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 11:43 PM | Reply

    #56 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

    You just quoted my SIL!

    #59 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 11:44 PM | Reply

    #55 | Posted by snoofy

    Food access should be basic, not radical. The fact that "feeding people" still counts as a political statement kinda proves Mamdani's point, doesn't it?

    #60 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-28 11:48 PM | Reply

    @#57 ... That may be why Mr Cuomo has turned to racist ads to try to gain points ...

    Or, maybe, it is just a campaign in desperation?

    Seven days from now (give or take), we'll know ...

    #61 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-28 11:54 PM | Reply

    @#61 ... Seven days from now ...

    Seven long days.

    I am grateful that my DVR has a fast-forward button ....


    #62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-28 11:55 PM | Reply

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