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The unemployment rate rose to 4.6%, highest since 2021. https://to.pbs.org/4rVhlLP

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-- PBS News (@pbsnews.org) Dec 16, 2025 at 10:29 AM

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These numbers come just days after Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell warned that the government may be inflating jobs numbers by as many as 60K per month. politicalwire.com

#1 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-12-16 10:15 AM | Reply

Another clear sign of the Golden Age.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-16 10:15 AM | Reply

The disgusting------------ is cooking the books and his numbers are still putrid.

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-16 11:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

If they showed the REAL numbers, there might be a Pissy Riot!

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-16 11:20 AM | Reply

The unemployment rate for Black workers rose to 8.3% in November, the highest in four years.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The racist------------- is especially proud of this stat.

#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-16 11:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Wait, I've been told that we need millions of illegal immigrants. Because we have too many jobs and not enough workers, yet we apparently have high unemployment? I'm seeing a logical and mathematical disconnect here.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-16 12:04 PM | Reply

You're the patricidal --------- who voted for the necrotizing------------ with the worst jobs record since Hoover.

#7 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-16 12:08 PM | Reply

6

You're right....we do need them......but they aren't included in the unemployment numbers. I don't imagine they file for unemployment.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-16 12:09 PM | Reply

I don't imagine they file for unemployment.

Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the government uses the number of people collecting unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under state or federal government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.

Because unemployment insurance records relate only to people who have applied for such benefits, and since it is impractical to count every unemployed person each month, the government conducts a monthly survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country.

www.bls.gov

#9 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-12-16 01:00 PM | Reply

Wait, I've been told that we need millions of illegal immigrants. Because we have too many jobs and not enough workers, yet we apparently have high unemployment? I'm seeing a logical and mathematical disconnect here.
#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-16 12:04 PM

I'm curious how you can make any determinations without the jobs report?

You're a simple bigot, or a lesser-calculated one?

#10 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-12-16 01:26 PM | Reply

@#6 ... I've been told that we need millions of illegal immigrants ...

We do.

... Because we have too many jobs and not enough workers ...

Please explain how those who are currently unemployed might want to work in the farm fields, or on construction sites?



#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-16 01:44 PM | Reply

Dan Bondgino hasn't shown in his office for TWO WEEKS.

Perhaps he's hiding with the jobs numbers?

OR, he's already fired and Trump is pretending the government is functioning.

Repubicans are scum.

#12 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-12-16 01:53 PM | Reply

#6 | Posted by BellRinger

Yeah. Watching fat white Trump supporters trying to do those jobs... That'll be some great entertainment!

#13 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-12-16 03:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Wait, I've been told that we need millions of illegal immigrants."

Nobody ever told you that.

"Because we have too many jobs and not enough workers, yet we apparently have high unemployment?"

Take a deep breath.

Let's slow things down for you.

We have many open job positions.

W have many unemployed citizens.

And we have many unemployed citizens who aren't applying for the jobs undocumented workers do.

Finally, as those jobs remain unstaffed, the economy contracts.

It's a shame you can't even try to explain why you support Trump's economic agenda when it comes to immigration.

But don't feel bad. None of you America First people can acknowledge that illegal immigrants are a net positive for the economy.

We're really just developing a way to make mass incarceration a thing, with any eye towards expanding the list of Enemies Of The State to be sent to camps. Expanding the Enemies Of The State list has already been publicly announced by the White House.

Republicans don't talk about that either.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-16 03:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Please explain how those who are currently unemployed might want to work in the farm fields, or on construction sites?

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-16 01:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

There was a time when people would do any job to feed their family and keep a roof over their head.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-16 04:34 PM | Reply

There was a time when people would do any job to feed their family and keep a roof over their head.
#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds

There was a time when any job would do, to feed their family and keep a roof over their head.

That job market doesn't exist any more.

Republicans don't ever talk about that.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-16 04:37 PM | Reply

There was a time when people would do any job to feed their family and keep a roof over their head.

#15 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

The rest of us are just waiting on your example.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-16 04:52 PM | Reply

#15 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

I don't see why Americans should take "any job" to save Donald Trump's bacon.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-16 04:54 PM | Reply

There was a time when people would do any job to feed their family and keep a roof over their head.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Yeah. I read about the Great Depression as well.

#19 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-12-16 05:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

There was a time when people would do any job to feed their family and keep a roof over their head.
#15 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Yeah and that time was not long ago. The US achieved record low unemployment under Biden.
Is that the period of time you referring to?

Most of the people you are portraying as lazy were employed until recently.

#20 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-12-16 05:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

= There was a time when people would do any job to feed their family and keep a roof over their head.
#15 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Did ya'll, I say, ya'll, know that LFT sings?

www.youtube.com

(The one on the right is FISHFART)

They were already the subject of parodies way back in 1972. Now they're just Cultists.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-16 06:31 PM | Reply

Full Version
Boy, the way Glen Miller played.
Songs that made the Hit Parade.
Guys like us, we had it made.
Those were the days

Didn't need no welfare state.
Everybody pulled his weight
Gee, our old LaSalle ran great.
Those were the days

And you knew who you were then
Girls were girls and men were men.
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.

People seemed to be content.
Fifty dollars paid the rent.
Freaks were in a circus tent.
Those were the days

Take a little Sunday spin,
Go to watch the Dodgers win.
Have yourself a dandy day
That cost you under a fin.

Hair was short and skirts were long.
Kate Smith really sold a song.
I don't know just what went wrong
Those Were the Days

(What went wrong was Corporations stopped paying a Living Wage compared to their Profits, that's what went wrong.

And they invested what they made in making Money Speech, inventing Corporate Personhood, and using the Returns on their Investments to buy SC Justices, Politicians, and a Conman President... and entire Cults now, really.)

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-16 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There was a time when people would do any job to feed their family and keep a roof over their head.

#15 | Posted by lfthndthrds

There was a time when those jobs would actually feed a family and keep a roof over their head.

You MAGAt Republicans made sure that's not true anymore. If you weren't too busy raping underage girls, waving Nazi flags, and jerking off to trans porn, you MAGAts might realize this.

#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-12-16 07:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#23 ... There was a time when those jobs would actually feed a family and keep a roof over their head. ...

Yup.

#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-16 08:10 PM | Reply

@#15 ... There was a time when people would do any job to feed their family and keep a roof over their head. ...

... and those jobs were willingly filled by immigrants working for low wages and few benefits.


#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-16 08:13 PM | Reply

@#22 ... (What went wrong was Corporations stopped paying a Living Wage compared to their Profits ...

Not just their profits, but pay for the wealthy execs ...

CEO pay declined in 2023
www.epi.org

... Summary: CEO pay dipped in 2023 but remains enormous compared with the pay of other workers. ...

Key findings

- - - From 1978-2023, top CEO compensation shot up 1,085%, compared with a 24% increase in a typical worker's compensation.

- - - In 2023, CEOs were paid 290 times as much as a typical worker -- in contrast to 1965, when they were paid 21 times as much as a typical worker.
...


#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-16 08:19 PM | Reply

- In 2023, CEOs were paid 290 times as much as a typical worker -- in contrast to 1965, when they were paid 21 times as much as a typical worker.
...

This is why the Elites are pointing at Immigrants and Muslims in General as the primary causes of our economic problems.... because while we are looking at those, the Billionaires are picking our pockets.

And Trumpers are either too stupid or too much a Cultist, or both, to figure that out.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-16 09:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Turdfyck has never held a job. A lot of dicks, sure, but not a job.

#28 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-12-17 12:11 AM | Reply

Ford laying off all 1600 employees at a Kentucky plant amid major EV shift

westkentuckystar.com

Another banner day for pedo 47.

#29 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-17 03:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ford laying off all 1600 employees at a Kentucky plant amid major EV shift
westkentuckystar.com

Another banner day for pedo 47.

#29 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-17 03:23 AM | Reply | Flag: America Run by Ebenezer Scrooges and "Old Man" Potters

Perfect timing as the holidays approach.

Are there any unemployed CEOs, Chairmen of the Boards, or Oligarchs in America, I wonder?


#30 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-17 04:24 AM | Reply

Ford laying off all 1600 employees at a Kentucky plant amid major EV shift
westkentuckystar.com

Another banner day for pedo 47.

They got what they voted for.

#31 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-12-17 07:55 AM | Reply

They got what they voted for.
#31 | Posted by Nixon

Trump and the GOP crashed the EV market when the little ugly bill eliminated the incentives for ev's in September on Sep 31. Some makers reported sales have already fell over 1,000 units sold per month to single digits.
They truly did get what they voted. The workers can take pride in knowing the sacrifice of their livelihoods really owned the libs.

#32 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-12-17 09:48 AM | Reply

Some makers reported sales have already fell over 1,000 units sold per month to single digits.

Instantly increasing the price of an EV up to $7500 was bound to do that. But that was their goal under Project 2025 as was war with Venezuela to project military superiority in the western hemisphere AND get more fossil fuels to drive up profits for the fossil fuel industry.

#33 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-12-17 10:00 AM | Reply

EV's mostly suck. Sales have plummeted because nobody wants them. How perverse that a $7500 raping of the taxpayer was required to move a single unit. People still need transportation and are purchasing vehicles that make sense for their needs.

#34 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-17 10:13 AM | Reply

"EV's mostly suck."

You mostly suck.
The only thing you've ever contributed is bbq tips, before you had to go into hiding.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-17 10:14 AM | Reply

#34 | Posted by BellRinger

If you think the $2B being refunded to American consumers in an effort to create jobs by building up American manufacturing is a "raping of the taxpayer" then tell us what action you would use to describe $12billion Trump is paying, mostly to corporate farms, out of the taxes that Trump illegally levied against the American people to partially make up for the $44B lost by farmers due to those same taxes?

#36 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-12-17 11:21 AM | Reply

" If you think the $2B being refunded to American consumers in an effort to create jobs by building up American manufacturing is a "raping of the taxpayer"

And in spite of that manufacturers, Ford in particular, lost their shirts investing in a product very few want because the central planners tried to force it on the market. Very similar to wind and solar.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-17 11:30 AM | Reply

You ignored my question but I'm not surprised because you can't actually justify Trump's economic policy.

#38 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-12-17 11:48 AM | Reply

I don't support Trump's economic policies, particularly tariffs. I support his deregulatory approach as well as his all-in energy policy and that's about it.

As for your equivocation - I would say that food production is more important than producing EV's.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-17 12:08 PM | Reply

I don't support Trump's economic policies
#39 | Posted by BellRinger

Then why do you constantly make posts giving cover for those policies? Why are you right now trying to redirect the conversation away from his policies which have been disastrous for US workers?

#40 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-12-17 12:34 PM | Reply

I am doing neither of those things. I addressed the awfulness of EV's because Nixon brought it up as if a $7500 subsidy for them is a good thing. It's not! It's a terrible thing.

#41 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-17 12:43 PM | Reply

" If you think the $2B being refunded to American consumers in an effort to create jobs by building up American manufacturing is a "raping of the taxpayer"
And in spite of that manufacturers, Ford in particular, lost their shirts investing in a product very few want because the central planners tried to force it on the market. Very similar to wind and solar.
#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-12-17 11:30 AM

EV-1 owners held wakes as their cars were taken back by the manufacturers and then destroyed.

These vehicles were perfectly functional and beloved by their drivers.

Mel Gibson's "bat cave" expression you might appreciate in the 2006 documentary.

Who Killed The Electric Car? trailer 2:15

#42 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-12-17 01:29 PM | Reply

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