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Thursday, June 13, 2024

When he was six years old, Mark Martin was legally adopted by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife, Ginni, who raised him from ages six to 19. But according to Martin, they've both cut off all contact with him, and now he's facing up to 25 years in prison.

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Wow, a zombie alias comes to life after no comments since it joined in 2006.


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-12 09:57 PM | Reply

Interesting contrast with Joe Biden who treats his son well.

Thomas is truly scum.

#2 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-06-12 10:03 PM | Reply

Nothing recent at least. I think comment history only goes back 90 days.

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-12 10:03 PM | Reply

Just a reminder:

"During a 2007 interview, Thomas told C-SPAN that he was raising Martin "as a son." At the time, Martin was 16, and was attending Randolph-Macon Academy " an elite military prep school. He also attended the outdoors-themed Hidden Lake Academy (HLA), which Business Insider reported was geared toward "troubled teens." Billionaire Harlan Crow, who is a longtime benefactor of Thomas, paid the tuition for both schools. Because Thomas did not report the tuition payments on his ethics disclosure forms, the total amount Crow paid remains unknown. ProPublica estimated that the cost of four years at both schools was at least $150,000."

If a democrat did 1/10th of what your average republican does half the talking heads on foxnews would explode.

Just as an aside, this is the sort of story that should get wall to wall coverage for weeks on end, yet it will end up being forgotten by friday.

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-12 10:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Clarence and Ginni Thomas reportedly cut off contact with Martin when he entered his teenage years, and Martin said the two "just didn't have time to deal with" him when he was in high school.

Class act.

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-12 10:14 PM | Reply

" the total amount Crow paid remains unknown. ProPublica estimated that the cost of four years at both schools was at least $150,000.""

Time to check if Crow properly reported and paid any Gift Taxes due.

Contrary to popular belief, it's the GIVER who owes taxes on anything over the annual amount, not the recipient...unless the giver can't be tracked down; then the IRS goes after the recipient.

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-12 10:15 PM | Reply

@#3

Thanks for that.

Still, I'd proffer my comment holds.

That aside, I have to ask, why a dormant alias posting that thread header?

I mean, this is not the first time Justice Thomas' son was in the news...

Clarence Thomas Had a Child in Private School. Harlan Crow Paid the Tuition. (May 2023)
www.propublica.org

...

Update, May 4, 2023: This story has been updated to reflect that Mark Paoletta, a longtime friend of Clarence Thomas who has also served as Ginni Thomas' lawyer, acknowledged Harlan Crow's tuition payments.

In 2008, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas decided to send his teenage grandnephew to Hidden Lake Academy, a private boarding school in the foothills of northern Georgia. The boy, Mark Martin, was far from home. For the previous decade, he had lived with the justice and his wife in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. Thomas had taken legal custody of Martin when he was 6 years old and had recently told an interviewer he was "raising him as a son."

Tuition at the boarding school ran more than $6,000 a month. But Thomas did not cover the bill. A bank statement for the school from July 2009, buried in unrelated court filings, shows the source of Martin's tuition payment for that month: the company of billionaire real estate magnate Harlan Crow. ...


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-12 10:18 PM | Reply

"Tuition at the boarding school ran more than $6,000 a month. But Thomas did not cover the bill. A bank statement for the school from July 2009, buried in unrelated court filings, shows the source of Martin's tuition payment for that month: the company of billionaire real estate magnate Harlan Crow. ..."

Notice?

The folks who are dead silent on this are the same ones whose heads would explode if the last name was Sotomayor.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-12 10:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#8

Yeah.

Thomas acknowledges more travel paid for by Harlan Crow. Colleagues report six-figure book payments
apnews.com

OK, at this point I have to ask...

Mr Crow looks to be quite wealthy. Why does he seem to have a need to purchase curry favor with a Justice?


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-12 10:36 PM | Reply

"Mr Crow looks to be quite wealthy. Why does he seem to have a need to purchase curry favor with a Justice?"

ROI, son.

ROI.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-12 10:38 PM | Reply

@#9

How Harlan Crow Slashed his Tax Bill by Taking Clarence Thomas on Superyacht Cruises (July 2023)
www.propublica.org

... For months, Harlan Crow and members of Congress have been engaged in a fight over whether the billionaire needs to divulge details about his gifts to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, including globe-trotting trips aboard his 162-foot yacht, the Michaela Rose.

Crow's lawyer argues that Congress has no authority to probe the GOP donor's generosity and that doing so violates a constitutional separation of powers between Congress and the Supreme Court.

Members of Congress say there are federal tax laws underlying their interest and a known propensity by the ultrarich to use their yachts to skirt those laws.

Tax data obtained by ProPublica provides a glimpse of what congressional investigators would find if Crow were to open his books to them. Crow's voyages with Thomas, the data shows, contributed to a nice side benefit: They helped reduce Crow's tax bill.

The rich, as we've reported, often deduct millions of dollars from their taxes related to buying and operating their jets and yachts. Crow followed that formula through a company that purported to charter his superyacht. But a closer examination of how Crow used the yacht raises questions about his compliance with the tax code, experts said. Despite Crow's representations to the IRS, ProPublica reporters could find no evidence that his yacht company was actually a profit-seeking business, as the law requires. ...


OK, that may explain the process, but not the "why" ...

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-12 10:40 PM | Reply

Oh, wait...

Clarence Thomas's Billionaire Friend Did Have Business Before the Supreme Court (April 2023)
www.bnnbloomberg.ca

... Justice Clarence Thomas said he was advised he didn't have to disclose private jet flights and luxury vacations paid for by billionaire Harlan Crow because, although a close friend, Crow "did not have business before the court."

But in at least one case, Crow did.

Bloomberg reviewed dozens of state and federal cases involving companies that the Crow family has owned or had a financial stake in since Thomas' 1991 confirmation. Nearly all of these disputes played out at the trial and appellate level and didn't reach the Supreme Court.

In January 2005, though, the court declined to hear an appeal from an architecture firm that wanted more than $25 million from Trammell Crow Residential Co. for allegedly misusing copyrighted building designs. When the court issued a one-sentence order denying the petition, there were no noted recusals " indicating that Thomas participated " and no noted dissents.

The Crow family had a non-controlling interest in the company at the time, according to a statement to Bloomberg from Harlan Crow's office. Thomas had already reported a 1997 private flight and high-dollar gifts from Crow, both documented in a December 2004 report from the Los Angeles Times. The justice had described Crow and his wife Kathy as "personal friends." ...

Given Crow's status as "a close friend and a generous benefactor," Thomas should have recused himself from cases where he knew or should have known that Crow had a direct financial interest, Hellman said. But he said it seemed unlikely that the justice would have been on notice or had reason to investigate the architecture firm's petition at the time, he said.

Close friendships can warrant recusals, Hellman said. He said that the key question is: "Would a reasonable person, knowing all of the circumstances, question the judge's impartiality?"

Stephen Gillers, a judicial ethics expert at New York University School of Law, said that given the close relationship between the Thomases and the Crows over 25 years and the many commercial interests of Crow and his companies, Thomas should have been "hypervigilant to the prospect of a Crow interest showing up on the Court's docket." ...


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-12 10:45 PM | Reply

"ProPublica reporters could find no evidence that his yacht company was actually a profit-seeking business, as the law requires"

Oh, it was part of a profit-seeking business...

...just not that one.

Time for the IRS to act.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-12 10:49 PM | Reply

"Would a reasonable person, knowing all of the circumstances, question the judge's impartiality?"

The judge gets half his income, and most of his lifestyle, from bribes. It's reasonable to believe he's partial.

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-12 10:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

@#14

The main issue seems to be that the Justices of the Supreme Court are not subject to any manner of ethical consideration or limits.

So, the following does not apply, apparently...

28 U.S. Code 144 - Bias or prejudice of judge
www.law.cornell.edu

... Whenever a party to any proceeding in a district court makes and files a timely and sufficient affidavit that the judge before whom the matter is pending has a personal bias or prejudice either against him or in favor of any adverse party, such judge shall proceed no further therein, but another judge shall be assigned to hear such proceeding. ...


So, it really appears that Chief Justice of the US Roberts is shirking his responsibility, or highlighting his inability, to protect the, I'll say, gravitas of the Supreme Court.

So, how can we get the Supreme Court back to being responsible to the democratic Republic is should serve?

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-12 11:44 PM | Reply

"it really appears that Chief Justice of the US Roberts is shirking his responsibility, or highlighting his inability, to protect the, I'll say, gravitas of the Supreme Court."

Chief Justice Roberts: Clarence, thanks for coming here today. I wanted to talk with you about the appearance of impropriety---

Justice Thomas: Kiss my black ass. I'm leaving.

Chief Justice Roberts: Could you let Sam in on your way out?

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-12 11:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

two "just didn't have time to deal with" him

More republican family values.

Too busy corrupting government for their own personal benefit I guess.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-13 10:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Martin, who was arrested for allegedly trafficking 400 grams of meth and heroin in 2021, was also arrested for drug trafficking and gun possession in June of last year.

Justice -----' son is a piker compared to Ronny Jackson.

#18 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-13 05:41 PM | Reply

Clearance Thomas took 3 more private jet trips footed by GOP billionaire

www.rawstory.com

#19 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-13 05:51 PM | Reply

"Clearance Thomas took 3 more private jet trips footed by GOP billionaire"

That guy either has the worst memory ...

... or the worst ethics.

I guarantee there are more, unreported.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-13 07:09 PM | Reply

----- is almost as bad a parent as he is a judge.

#21 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-13 09:35 PM | Reply

" Interesting contrast with Joe Biden who treats his son well.

Thomas is truly scum.

#2 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2024-06-12 10:03 PM | FLAG: "

Now do Biden's granddaughter.

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-13 09:40 PM | Reply

you cannot defend any aspect of thomas.

you dont even try because its impossible.

#23 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-06-13 09:41 PM | Reply

I don't know the background as to how/why this young man became estranged from his adoptive parents.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-13 09:44 PM | Reply

The noxious orange pedo is a complete scumbag.

www.independent.co.uk

#25 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-13 09:46 PM | Reply

"I guarantee there are more, unreported."

#20 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

And I think it's safe to guarantee that the aberrant behavior of Trump appointed U.S. Supreme Court Justices will not only continue but will get worse if Trump is back in the White House.

Trump had his escape from justice safety net planned out long before anybody guessed what he was doing.

So now they owe him and its payback time.

The only solution is to keep Trump out of the White House ~ and let his date with destiny and the justice system play itself out.

#26 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-06-14 03:24 AM | Reply

from above...

"Clarence and Ginni Thomas reportedly cut off contact with Martin when he entered his teenage years, and Martin said the two "just didn't have time to deal with" him when he was in high school."

Yeah, because Clarence was too busy jet setting around the world with a billionaire plotting how to set Harlan Crowe's vision of
America into action, whilst Ginny was busy hobnobbing with those Jan. 6thers wanting to tear down the Capital and kill Pelosi and
Pence...

Ah, what a lovely family...

#27 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-06-14 06:50 AM | Reply

I'm sure a man with these sterling ethics told the truth in his Senate confirmation hearing (involving Anita Hill).

#28 | Posted by anton at 2024-06-14 08:59 AM | Reply

I don't know the background as to how/why this young man became estranged from his adoptive parents.

#24 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Just pretend it is Hunter Biden.

Then you would suddenly and miraculously know everything. Especially the bad stuff.

Because it would be all over Fixed News.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-14 12:18 PM | Reply

So why do you think Democrats always hate and trash black Americans, unless they tow the leftist party line and cry perpetual victimhood? Dems like their blacks downtrodden and in ghetto begging Dem elites for handouts.

#30 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-15 07:29 AM | Reply

30 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Why don't you tell us about all of your Black friends?

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-15 08:37 AM | Reply

Sad for Hunter even more for America. But how many multimillion dollar taxpayer funded trips did the shameful loser son Hunter Biden take so he could do corrupt business for himself and the Biden family brand?

Whatever trips Justice Thomas took it had nothing to do with fleecing America as did each and every Hunter Biden scam that were stolen from and paid for by taxpayers.

#32 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-15 08:37 AM | Reply

" how many multimillion dollar taxpayer funded trips did the shameful loser son Hunter Biden take so he could do corrupt business for himself and the Biden family brand?"

"Taxpayer-funded trips?" None.

Not a one.

Feel free to post your proof.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-15 11:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe it's not the absent fathers after all.

#34 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-15 01:47 PM | Reply

#33
Hunter Biden traveled to at least 15 countries with VP dad: 'I can catch a ride with him'
Hunter Biden traveled on Air Force Two to Europe, Africa, Asia, Canada and Mexico after co-founding Rosemont Seneca Partners

The White House has stood by its decision to exclude Hunter Biden from the Air Force One and Marine One passenger manifestos it shares with reporters.

as he accompanied his father to China, Hunter Biden was forming a Chinese private equity fund that associates said at the time was planning to raise big money, including from China. Hunter Biden has acknowledged meeting with Jonathan Li, a Chinese banker and his partner in the fund during the trip,

#35 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-15 02:10 PM | Reply

Daddysfist, what did the smelly orange pedo give away in return for all of those Chinese trademarks?

#36 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-15 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe it's not the economic diasdvantage after all.

#37 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-15 03:55 PM | Reply

"arrested for allegedly trafficking 400 grams of meth and heroin in 2021, was also arrested for drug trafficking and gun possession in June of last year."

Big Bust in 2021, somehow free and unsupervised two years later, doing same crimes.
...Maybe it's not the biased legal system after all?

#38 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-15 04:00 PM | Reply

"Hunter Biden traveled to at least 15 countries with VP dad: 'I can catch a ride with him'"

I'll need a link to your claim.

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-15 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'll need a link to your claim.

I seem to recall Hunter and his daughter flew on a trip to China on AF2.

#40 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-15 05:12 PM | Reply

"I seem to recall Hunter and his daughter flew on a trip to China on AF2."

Okay, you've got the flight part, but none of the other part of the claim. But let's pretend that counts.

So...

1 down, 14+ to go.

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-15 05:14 PM | Reply

1 down, 14+ to go.

It wouldn't surprise me if he did travel with Joe a fair bit. Why not? The Secret Service would probably prefer it.

#42 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-15 05:20 PM | Reply

"It wouldn't surprise me if he did travel with Joe a fair bit"

That's not the point. Flight does NOT suggest corruption, in and of itself.

Trust, but verify. The claim made has not been proven.

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-15 05:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Flight does NOT suggest corruption, in and of itself.

No, it's just a flight. It's not like Uday and Qusay never flew with Lewzer.

#44 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-15 05:29 PM | Reply

Man who Joe Biden raised as a son and pimped out to foreign nations for cash found guilty on gun charges and will likely spend time in prison. He's also a crack addict.

#45 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-06-15 07:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So why do you think Repubicans always hate and trash black Americans, unless they toe the fascist party line and cry perpetual victimhood? Pubs like "their blacks" downtrodden and in ghetto, or more preferably, owned by white people.

#30 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Fixed it for you

#46 | Posted by chuffy at 2024-06-15 09:12 PM | Reply

I'll need a link to your claim.

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-15 04:56 PM | Reply | Flag:
| Newsworthy 1

-Google it, you and your newsworthy too. You can google any of these for more information.

The White House has stood by its decision to exclude Hunter Biden from the Air Force One and Marine One passenger manifestos it shares with reporters.

as he accompanied his father to China, Hunter Biden was forming a Chinese private equity fund that associates said at the time was planning to raise big money, including from China. Hunter Biden has acknowledged meeting with Jonathan Li, a Chinese banker and his partner in the fund during the trip,

#47 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-16 06:10 PM | Reply

-I don't want to tax your attention span, but you started it. You and your pet newsworthy.

"Taxpayer-funded trips?" None.

Not a one.

Feel free to post your proof.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-15 11:36 AM | Reply | Flag:
| Newsworthy 1

#48 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-16 06:18 PM | Reply

Democrats are experts at fudging history, be it message board posts on DR, or news of an addicted Hunter Biden laptop that the New York Post accurately reported in 2020. But as typical Democrats do, the DR refuses to allow the NYPost to be used as a news source. They call it reverse gas lighting and you can bet they muzzled it here in 2020 from the laptop news just as was done on a recent news article along with the 51 lying Democrat officials.

#49 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-16 08:05 PM | Reply

Reality is apparently very difficult for Robson.

One hopes that the new medications improve his symptoms.

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-16 08:09 PM | Reply

The difference between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. No mine but it needs repeated.

Trump gave up a billionaire lifestyle for his country.

Biden gave up his country for a billionaire lifestyle.

#51 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-16 08:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

See what I mean?

None of 51 is reality.

Trump is still a billionaire, and Biden still is not.

Facts.

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-16 08:12 PM | Reply

None of 51 is reality.

He's just phoning it in these days.

#53 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-16 08:21 PM | Reply

On a rotary phone, in fact, lol.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-16 08:27 PM | Reply

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