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Former Federal Reserve Chairman and Ayn Randian cultist, Alan Greenspan, gave this speech in 2001: www.federalreserve.gov explaining how awful it would be to pay off our public debt. He also went on to support W's tax cuts (which required the US to borrow even more money for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars) as an effective way to prevent budget surpluses and keep the country in debt. The idea that the Social Security trust fund would have "too much" money in it really worried old Al.

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"As a Christian, I accept that America has no state religion."

Christmas is a national holiday. Name a belief other than Christianity whose most sacred day is a National Holiday.

"Christians do not get to impose biblical law on everyone else"

That doesn't stop them from trying. Heck, they'll literally MISINTERPRET the Bible to justify their fascist actions. For example, the Bible talks about "the quickening" as the beginning of life; fascists will overrule God to say moment of conception.

"There are radical Islamist movements that openly advocate bringing Sharia into government and public life."

And there are radical Christian movements who believe husbands should be able to strike their wives, and every household should have only ONE vote: the man's. Frankly, neither will get any traction.

"Religious freedom does not mean the right to impose religious law or religious requirements on everyone else."

So you believe a woman should decide whether she gets an abortion?

"Muslims in America have the same religious freedom, but they also have to accept the same constitutional limits."

Can you show us a single current instance of Muslims getting MORE Constitutional rights than you? Please be specific.

"Here, when religious demands cross constitutional boundaries, the courts will determine where those boundaries are."

Yep. And if you remember, SCOTUS ruled Hobby Lobby didn't have to pay for women's reproductive services, since the owner of Hobby Lobby claimed it was against his religion.

"My concern is that some Americans who are strongly anti-Christian and anti-Israel may become so eager to oppose Christians and Jews that they excuse or support demands from Islamic groups that they would never tolerate from Christians."

Well then, the answer would be to give them no future reason to distrust you or hate you. Start working alongside, and stop called Muslims "them".

Treating minorities like crap is never a good idea, especially if folks who look like you are destined to be in the minority.

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Dan,

As a Christian, I accept that America has no state religion.

America is not governed by laws extracted from the Bible, the Quran, or any other religious book.

That works both ways.

My secular political views about America are not necessarily governed by my religious beliefs.

Christians do not get to impose biblical law on everyone else, and Muslims should not get to impose Sharia law on everyone else.

There are radical Islamist movements that openly advocate bringing Sharia into government and public life. That is what concerns me.

Muslims are free to practice their religion in their mosques, in their homes, and publicly, just as Christians are free to practice and express their faith. But religious freedom does not mean the right to impose religious law or religious requirements on everyone else. I'm not referring to simply letting people know your faith.

Christians have had generations in America for the boundaries between religion and government to be fought over, challenged in the courts, and defined. Living in a pluralistic society means coexisting with other religions and with people who have no religion at all.

Muslims in America have the same religious freedom, but they also have to accept the same constitutional limits. Some Muslims come from countries where Islam has a much greater role in government and public life. That doesn't carry over to America. Here, when religious demands cross constitutional boundaries, the courts will determine where those boundaries are.

When any religious group pushes beyond those limits and attempts to use government to impose its religious beliefs on others, the courts will remind them where those limits are.

My concern is that some Americans who are strongly anti-Christian and anti-Israel may become so eager to oppose Christians and Jews that they excuse or support demands from Islamic groups that they would never tolerate from Christians.

And one day they may realize that acquiescing to those demands was a big mistake.

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She also promoted Rudy Giuliani's call, "let's have trial by combat!" during his speech, although lawyers for Giuliani later asserted his call was "hyperbolic," and not a call for violence. When the president began to speak, Harp tweeted, "FIGHT FOR TRUMP!" a dozen times within a single post, adding, "Today D.C. is TRUMP COUNTRY!" She live tweeted the president's speech: "We will never give up. We will never concede!"

And after a pro-Trump mob forced its way into the US Capitol, Harp shared tweets insisting the rioters were "not Trump supporters," and circulated false reports that Antifa had infiltrated the mob.


Lee,

"If you're Arab, if you're Muslim, you are my brother and sister and countrymen."

Being fellow countrymen does not mean everyone else must accept having one group's religious practices broadcast into their homes.

Muslims began forming a community in Dearborn during the 1920s, and the "American Moslem Society" established its Dearborn mosque in 1938. The Society's current website claims that its outdoor loudspeakers began operating in 2004. Reporting, however, proves they were operating as early as 1979.

The mosque was broadcasting the Islamic call to prayer over outdoor loudspeakers five times a day beginning at 5:30 in the morning. Residents said it could be heard half a mile away.

That history illustrates the point of this thread. As they have grown in numbers and political influence, they have begun pushing their worship and culture onto everyone else. Private worship is a constitutional right. Broadcasting a religious declaration throughout the entire neighborhood forces nonbelievers to listen, whether they wish to or not.

Muslims have the same constitutional rights as Christians, Jews and everyone else. They do not have a special right to ignore noise laws or require an entire neighborhood to accommodate their prayer schedule. Neither does any other religion.

America should welcome people who want to become Americans while retaining their personal faith and heritage. But assimilation also means accepting that public life is governed by the Constitution and laws applied equally to everyone. Bringing your culture to America is one thing. But expecting everyone to submit to your religious practices is another.

We need to nip this in the bud now before they become politically entrenched in American society.

Other countries demonstrate how difficult such demands become to reverse once government officials are afraid or politically unwilling to say no.

The call to prayer is only one example of religious practices and demands being pushed beyond the Muslim community and imposed upon the public. Read this entire thread and follow the links for further examples and supporting information.

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