"We abolished slavery, passed voting rights, civil rights, affirmative action."

Did we try giving them lawyers?

"if you correct for whether or not they had a lawyer, racial discrepancy's go away."

We didn't try making that go away.

"the Gestapo was a reliably brutal tool that enforced Nazism's most radical impulses."

This is what I voted for.
--Boaz

It's interesting how Whites can harm blacks through slavery and Jim Crown and mass layoffs ordered by White Elon Musk.

But for some reason, yet to be explained, Whites somehow just aren't able to help Blacks.

I'd like to hear a suggestion as to how to turn that around.
#63 | Posted by HeliumRat

The destruction of the Black family.
#65 | Posted by HeliumRat

You already have your answer:

there is no White Savior. Only Blacks can help themselves
#54 | Posted by HeliumRat

"I'd like to hear a suggestion as to how to turn that around."

Turn what around?

By the early 2020s, multiple commentators and academics argued that the John Birch Society and its beliefs had successfully taken over the Republican Party and the broader conservative movement.[28][27][67][64][29][68] Efforts of Moms for Liberty in the 2020s to influence public education in the United States via school board elections and book bans have been compared to JBS's efforts in the 1960s.[69][70] When introducing legislation to withdraw the U.S. from the UN, Senator Mike Lee used "some of the same arguments to support the bill" that the JBS "first employed."[71] By the 2020s, some national Republican and conservative figures openly associated with the JBS.[65]
same link as above

"The Black family did fine until about the 1950's"

"Did fine."
They went to segregated schools, drank from segregated water fountains.
They avoided Sundown Towns after dark.
They did fine!

Have you read John Birch?
#56 | Posted by HeliumRat

The guy Charlie Daniels sings about?

"I'm a faithful follower of Brother John Birch
And I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church"

The problem is the destruction of the Black family.
#54 | Posted by HeliumRat

Golly, who spent two hundred years doing that through racial slavery and Jim Crow and more recently targeting black Federal government workers for mass layoffs?

"Snoofy, there is no White Savior."

Who ended slavery, was it Whites?

in the 1920's during the Black renaissance, Blacks had the same poverty rate and the same crime rate as whites. What changed?
#48 | Posted by HeliumRat

Where do you get this White Nativist propaganda from?
Please share the link.

Race and just about everything else are of course closely correlated with class.

But they're not interchangeable.

"I just told you all he needed was lawyer"

That's like saying black poverty goes away once you correct for blacks not having as much money as whites.

"Look, in the 1920's during the Black renaissance, Blacks had the same poverty rate and the same crime rate as whites. What changed?"

Black Wall Street got burned down by jealous Whites is what changed.

"It turns out to be class, not race."

Does it also happen to be that the black race... is also the lower class?

So it turns out to be both class and race.

"Snoofy, if you correct for whether or not they had a lawyer, racial discrepancy's go away."

Okay, so you're saying the racial inequality blacks face is real, and it extends to blacks having lesser access to effective legal counsel.

Ahh. Haven't seen that one since film class. Not ringing any bells unfortunately.

...Upon seeing Red River, Ford reportedly said about Wayne, "I didn't know the big son of a bitch could act!"

Maybe pick an instance where it's not justice. Where it's overly harsh or make a direct comparison to a similar crime where the white perp received a lighter sentence.
#42 | Posted by eberly

Like this?

Racial disparities in the justice system are well-documented, with the United States Sentencing Commission confirming that Black male offenders receive sentences roughly 13% to 20% longer than similarly situated white offenders for the same crimes.

So Snoofy is claiming that stabbing another person through the heart thus killing them isn't murder?
#41 | Posted by BellRinger

So JeffJ is desperate for anyone to notice him?

"Instead, you can (and probably will) keep finding the articles with the "right headlines" that may provide opinions and "alternative facts" that satisfy your confirmation bias"

There's just one thing missing:

How come there aren't any articles saying Netanyahu didn't support Hamas?

There's articles saying he tried to play both sides:

"But "propping up Hamas" was not needed to get there."

Maybe, maybe not. We'll never know. Because a reality where Netanyahu didn't bolster Hamas is not the reality we live in.

You can have the last word(s), I don't have time for this.
#14 | Posted by CutiePie

You have time.
You just ran out of facts.

"He argued that it was better for Israel to serve as the pipeline to ensure the funds don't go to terrorism."

Oct 7 sure proved Netanyahu right about that!

"Convicting a black man of murder is racist."

Sometimes it is.
You didn't know that?
You still don't know that.

"What makes you think its Democracy snoofy?"

What an absolutely miserable, insipid question!
Why do I think the United States is a democracy?
The elections, for starters.

What nation do you think FDR referred to as the "Arsenal of Democracy?"