- why did they design it?

I can give you short version of the Designer theory back story; all matter is created by a non-material mind, apparently because he likes gardens and music.

And the human form was created so he could enjoy walks and listening.

Now, in the longer version, there were other non-material minds who thought this was not a good idea (which, given the current state of things, they may have a point!) and they decided to throw a monkey wrench (sic) into the whole thing to test this theory.

I assume it was made by the God Saturn!

Actually, I've learned not to assume too much about the Universe, per my points the state of astrophysics.

The point, I think, is that it's Information that seems to suggest mind rather than nature... and DNA is formed by HIGHLY sophisticated information, what Gates called 'software', and Dawkins called, "machine code".

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Labeling is SO juvenile.

Let me ask you, when you see a new model car on the street, what is your assumption?

Do you assume that it was the result of hundred of billions of years of molecular shenanigans in a mindless process, or do you assume there was a car designer and builder?

Snoofers is right about the Universe, btw. We really haven't a clue... current debates in astrophysics include does matter really exist, does dark matter exist?

What about gravity, how does that really work?

And science has a really low bar, btw... if we find phenomena that we can attribute to an even semi-plausible source, then that assumed source... some effect that we see... it becomes a working theory.

in example:

Matter is an Illusion: Modern physics is forcing us to rethink existence | Michelle Thaller: Full Interview

from Big Think

- the billions of years is there.

Young earth creationists are a vast minority of believers today... and Joni knew exactly what she was saying when she wrote one of my fav songs.

NT Wright the other day said that there might have been an Adam Hominid and an Eve Hominid for all we know (and I say God could have used cellular soup for biology if he wanted), but that's all secondary stuff to people who look at Life, the Universe, and Everything, and see mind over matter.

- Brian Cox

"Physicist Brian Cox takes a scientific, agnostic stance, stating he does not have personal faith but rejects "atheist" labels as divisive.

He believes science does not rule out a creator but finds no evidence for one, arguing that the universe's origin is still unknown and "guessing" is pointless."

"The arrogance of modernity is the belief that contemporary, science-driven, Western, or rationalized perspectives are superior to all historical or alternative ways of life.

It represents a "triumphalism" that assumes progress has rendered past generations, traditions, and beliefs obsolete and inferior."

- the scientific method

Ibn al-Haytham (11th century) introduced systematic experimentation. Francis Bacon (16th-17th century) is widely credited with formalizing the modern empirical method, with crucial refinements from Galileo Galilei and Isaac Newton.

All "Godders". Newton wrote volumes more about the Bible than he did science, and they all did what they did to understand, "God's Creation".

She's also in the News for this story... Maxwell's coming Pardon.