He's a retired cop who only ever fired his weapon at cutouts of black dudes holding white women at knifepoint at the range.

OF COURSE he's a firearms expert.

"That is walking a line I would rather they didn't."

You'd rather they didn't, but what if they have no other choice?
As you said before,
"There is nothing inherently wrong or evil about the mission to find people here illegally and take them before an immigration judge."
"Their job is legitimate and necessary. Their arrests lawful"

You stand by those words, I assume.
So it could still be legitimate and necessary to walk the line you'd rather they didn't have to, right?
You don't actually have a line that can't be crossed, do you?

Weasel words come out of your mouth like you've spent 37 years lying to people because it's how you did your job.

"That is walking a line I would rather they didn't."

Okay now do stopping people in public and demanding proof of citizenship.

"Your papers, please." Does that cross a line?

"ICE tried to enter the fccking Ecuadorian Embassy you numbskull."

Another "misunderstanding" no doubt.
There's no excuse he won't make for the State. None.

"The links you provided don't indicate that, and if they are using them as blanket entry into homes that is a problem and will change my mind about the 4th amendment violation"

See if you can get it to chagne your mind about what people are protesting here.

Because it's not the fact that people think illegal immigrants should be free to roam the country.

It's the Gestapo tactics and concentration camps being built is worse than the illegal immigrants.

If you could take your head out of your pig loving ass for two minutes, we could have had this conversation yesterday.

But you're still not ready. You're still not ready to say going after illegals like they're Anne Frank is wrong.

213. That has NOTHING to do with search warrants. That's the DOJ claiming they can use their arrest warrant to come in and find a suspect.
#215 | Posted by Imshakinitboss

Entering a home to search for a suspect has nothing to do with search warrants?
This may be the dumbest thing you've said all thread.

Now, there are a few examples where a search warrant signed by a judge would not be required. For example, if police are chasing a suspect in commission of a crime and the suspect flees to their home. Police can still enter because the law enforcement engagement with the criminal suspect began outside the home. Police can enter a home without a search warrant to provide emergency aid as well.

None of these circumstances are present when ICE enters a home looking for someone on a civil immigration tort without a signed judicial warrant.

What you said is wrong, and it shows you weren't really paying attention when you swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

You are intellectually lazy. Most Statist are, it's why they want the State to make life easier for them.

"You are lying about search warrants."

No, you're too lazy to spend ten seconds educating yourself.

It's interesting that in all your expertise about the ICE mission, the basic facts are lost on you.

Try a law class at your local Community College. It really would do wonders for you.
#204 | Posted by Imshakinitboss

Try getting a donut.

You wouldn't believe me anyway. Bitch.

But if you have a link to search warrants being linked to administrative warrants for ICE I would be equally outraged by that.
#202 | Posted by Imshakinitboss

Google it yourself you lazy pig.

"Do you really not know that the assumption in court"

What's the assumption on the street when ICE stops brown people asks what their citizenship is and detains them if they won't answer, or in some cases even if they show Real ID?

Try to be a strong enough man to answer that question.

"You are claiming they aren't following the law."

Aren't you claiming they didn't follow the law in killing Pretti...

You are trying desperately to paint Pretti as an isolated incident and accident.

You refuse to acknowledge how the adoption of ICE Gestapo tactics played into this event.

That's what racists do to deny systemic racism. They deny there's any system guiding ICE agents hands at all. There's not hundreds of Executive Orders directing ICE to increase violence and aggression. It's all just a series of unrelated accidents and misunderstandings and unfortunate incidents.

For someone who spent 37 years as a bureaucrat with a badge, you sure seem to want to downplay the importance of how the mission is actually carried out.

They tried to arrest Pretti"

What evidence do you have that there was even an attempted arrest?

"The assumption is and always should be that they are, until proven otherwise."

That's ridiculous.

Why should cops get a benefit of doubt that cops don't extend to us?

Explain yourself.

"They tried to arrest ms Good when they ordered her out of the car"

Who is "they" and what about the other "they" who ordered her to get out of here?

It's pretty obvious you think the killing of Daniel Shaver was justified so there's not much sense talking to someone who can't see. I bet you think the killing of Eric Garner and Freddie Gray and Breonna Taylor and Vicki Weaver was justified too.

"They use standard law entire practices"

Door to door searches is standard law enforcement practices?
How many door to door searches for violators of civil law in your 37 years?

Entering homes without a judge's signed warrant is standard law enforcement practices?
How many homes did you raid looking for a suspect without a signed judge's warrant did you conduct in your 37 years?

"Zero evidence they aren't establishing pc prior to arrests."

They didn't even try to arrest Good or Pretti.

They just gunned them down.

And what PC would get a citizen arrested, only to be released without being charged?

"Meanwhile you have zero evidence they are violating the 4th amendment."

There's evidence.

ICE themselves states they can conduct a search from an "administrative warrant" which isn't signed by a judge.

Take two seconds and google it and educate yourself.

That's the violation.

The entire operation is predicated on violating the Constitution you lied about supporting under oath.

"You have nothing to back up your claim"

What do you have to back up your claim?

"174 I never had to fire my gun except at the range in the course of my duties. Not in my nearly 37 years."

So why are you making excuses for these ICE Gestapo agents? You can't possibly believe these people have anywhere close to your level of experience and professionalism.

You know most wouldn't qualify for state police, right?

Shooting civilians sometimes is a mistake, sometimes it is not. When it is, it's failure of the officer.
#178 | Posted by Imshakinitboss

You want this to be "a few bad apples" and not the predictable outcome of a failed policy of mass intimidating and dehumanizing the people of Minneapolis.

You can't talk about the policy and the tactics being used to carry it out.

You're afraid to.

"They should participate willingly to keep criminals off their streets that shouldn't be there."

ICE is the largest criminal organization operating on the streets of Minneapolis.

They've killed two citizens already.

ICE is doing what you pretend the immigrants are doing.

Ice has limited jurisdiction.

In what capacity?

ICE isn't even bound by the Fourth Amendment, according to their own internal secret memo.

ICE has detained hundreds of citizens mostly a nonviolent protesters, who have been released with no charges filed. Are those arrests within their limited jurisdiction?

"But to think that any law enforcement can happen mistake free is childish."

Cab any law enforcement happen without killing innocent civilians, or is that also childish?

How many civilians did you kill in your career?

"Cooperating with federal law enforcement in no way interferes with states rights."

Neither does ignoring the feds, that should say.

If there's "forced cooperation," then there's no States Rights. There's states being coerced by the Federal Government to do the Federal Government's job.

Like when a cop says "can you do me a favor and out out that cigarette" but it's not really a request, it's a legally binding order.

Can you do me a favor and acknowledge I'm correct about the States Rights issue?

"Is called developing probable cause."

Probable Cause is a criminal term.

Presence in the United States without a valid visa is a civil offense.

So, you're supporting criminal law enforcement approach to a civil infraction.

Why?

Why is it so important this group of people be rounded up and sent to camps?

"Cooperating with federal law enforcement in no way interferes with states rights."

Neither does it orange requests from the feds, simpleton.

"It says EVERYONE in the country illegally."

So why has ICE detained so many citizens? How is that within mission scope?

"Why, if in the course of their duties, they come across someone here illegally with no criminal record, they should ignore them?"

How can we be sure they're really a citizen without checking their papers?