I guess it does look like whitney houston a tad

Ready for the fun question? When we Dems have power... do we uh.. surrender? or actually try to win?

#61 | Posted by sitzkrieg

I have answered your question, now answer one of mine

Why do you think winning or losing is in our power?

Please, someone tell me where my short analysis is wrong. i would LOVE to see some other options or to be wrong with my conclusions.

Then there is this simple fact

We, America, started this illegal, unjust, immoral, unjustifiable war of aggression with a cowardly sneak attack, during negotiations (for the second time mind you) that murdered their leader and the head of their country's primary religion along with young children. We have committed multiple war crimes. We have threatened more war crimes. We have proven ourselves completely untrustworthy. We have provided unquestioning support to a genocidal regime.

Winning? What does that even mean?

Diplomacy?
HA

We are losing this war too.

1. China and Russia, who can aid Iran without worry of response are by far sufficient to provide Iran with enough to carry on any fight. They are completely and utterly motivated to harm the US through Iran. make no mistake of it. Do you think Piggy would dare sanction China over Iran? HA

2. The Guld states are looking for the exit door in their relationship to the US. We have demonstrated for the world to see our complete and utter inability to defend them. to add insult to injury we stripped their defenses and prioritized Israel's defenses with the limited defensive munitions we were able to supply. The Gulf states are looking for separate peace with Iran

3. Our primary ally Israel is a pariah on the world stage

4. Our pacific allies see America removing missile defense systems and carriers from the pacific. Compound that with THEY are suffering the worst of the economic price of the war. They have options

5. Piggy has insulted and threatened our NATO allies. We freaking threatened to invade Greenland to the point that our allies were putting sacrificial lamb soldiers on the island to bleed and die if we invaded

No, no one else is going to save us

Let's start militarily

We cannot win militarily

What are our options

1. Ground assault ain't gonna happen. In fact, even the possibility of a ground invasion is beyond fanciful. We simply do not have the troops to do it and have exactly zero allies willing to put their lives on the line to that end.

2. Limited ground action, i.e. seizing territory-strategic dead end. There is no land that could induce Iran to surrender. Kharg Island? NOPE. To say nothing of the challenges at assaulting it and putting our troops as sitting ducks, it will achieve exactly 1 thing. Iran will level the gulf state's energy infrastructure

3. Concerted air offensive-Iran already took the worst America and Israel could inflict on us and hit back hard enough to induce Piggy to surrender with the Memorandum of Understanding-you know, the surrender document. We do not have the stand-off offensive or defensive missile supply. Full stop

4. Tit-for-tat attacks-low intensity ongoing bombing campaign. Iran has a distinct advantage in this regard as their munition supplies are not strained and they have a plethora of targets and other options, i.e. Houthis

5. Blockade-isn't working, Iran has been an isolated country for decades and is prepared to sacrifice. $5 per gallon fuel is making Americans cry surrender

6. That leaves us with the nuclear bomb issue. Piggy may get that desperate. Will Piggy use 1 leaving iran with 29 other missile locations unhit able to respond and destroy as much as they can? Or will Piggy use 30 nukes to hit the 30 buried missile locations inflicting a globally devastating nuclear winter.

Nope no military solution