" When it was being sold to the public before it passed is what I recall, although that was almost 16 years ago."

Well, nobody ever said it. It was never true. Subsidies were subsidies from day one. THAT WAS PART OF THE POINT, literally the first "A".

Clearly, your recall sucks.

Again, did you make this up? Or did you hear this from someone else? If someone else, who?

" I don't believe you."

That's okay; you've got a long habit of believing what's false, and denying what's true. You don't have to believe me for it to be true.

One was a wonderful actor who was the first person outside of NYC to play Barry in Talk Radio. She's now Samantha, one of the leaders of the trans movement in Detroit. Another was a lighting designer, who, as a male, had a girlfriend he would lead around via a dog collar and chain. Turns out he wasn't very happy about it either. Now, she is embracing life like never before. Another was a guy who lived above my girlfriend and I in a six-plex: very effeminate when we moved in, had long hair in curls AND BREASTS by the time we moved out. She LOVES being a girl. Should I go on?

I also know three others after transition. But I didn't know them before, so I didn't mention them. Two of them are my tax clients.

You know I've worked in the arts for 40 years, right?

Now find my question: who told you there were no subsidies? And answer it.

"Prosecuting Medicaid fraud is lawfare?"

Claiming it's more than half, without providing any evidence, other than "at first glance ... " isn't something LE is supposed to do until they've got actual evidence.

Before I answer any of the questions, please answer mine. You seem to be avoiding the difficult ones on purpose.

From the FBI's website:

The FBI is also responsible for specific terrorism-related offenses, such as violence at airports, money laundering, attacks on U.S. officials, and others.

(emphasis mine)

" I don't accuse the FBI of violating its own rules."

In that case, the only people the FBI were calling terrorists, were terrorists.

Why do you have such a problem with that?

" Biden administration loudly announced it was bringing in the FBI, IMO that was an attempt at intimidation"

You're joking, right?!?

You just defended the folks you admit were terrorists, and are pearl-clutching because Biden was too rough on them.

Careful you don't drown carrying all that fetid water.

" Well first off it was a local law enforcement issue"

Not once the terroristic threats started.

" ... unless your argument is that each and every death threat issued anywhere in the country is investigated by the FBI."

That's stupid; of course not. It would have to be against a public official, and meant to have them reverse course or policy due to fear.

You know: terrorism, by definition.

" ... subsidies, that we were told weren't needed when the bill passed"

You were TOLD?!?

Told by whom?

" I'm curious how much has changed since the article was written in 2002"

You could certainly double that 5X number.

" Plenty of parents got loud but did not issue threats. "

And if you can find one of those that the FBI labeled a terrorist, I'll agree with you. But you can't. And you won't.

So now you're deflecting to VOLUME. Nobody got labeled a terrorist for volume. You saw the requirements: threatening injury, violence, or death. All of the folks labeled terrorists did so.

Basically, at this point, your only defense is pretending that the FBI violated their own rules and were designating people terrorists willy-nilly.

It's patently untrue. How is that not a lie?

" ... subsidies, that we were told weren't needed when the bill passed"

ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Subsidies were there from day one. I know , because in my earliest training bore their tagline: You must file, to reconcile, meaning folks would either pay back a little bit of the subsidy, if they made more than they had predicted on healthcare.gov, or get a little more subsidy if they made less than they had predicted.

Are you lying because you're ignorant, or are you simply speaking out of turn on something you don't know about?

" ... and that have a sunset provision written into law by Democrats?"

You know what else was written to sunset? Trump's tax giveaways, which cost multiple times what the subsidies cost.

But Republicans had no problem extending those, did they? They chose exactly what they chose.

Stop pretending like this isn't what Republicans wanted. This is TrumpCare! Be proud of what you've enabled.

"Federal prosecutors"

So ... Trump's DOJ?

Sorry, we need more than just a claim from the Department of Lawfare.

So those " loud parents" were terrorists, agreed?

" Seriously, ditch the shovel."

Hand it up to me, if it'll reach.

It was also smack in the middle of page one.

So, is that YOUR definition?

" No wonder Jeff quotes a conspiracy theorist site called HotAir"

One of his "varied" sources.

" An article about the Minnesota fraud scandal is not a Trump puff piece."

You're right. It has nothing at all to do with Trump.

"We'll add Trump puff piece to the list"

Your list, since Trump has nothing to do with the story, until now, when he's withholding money for hungry children.

But the article didn't cover that part, did it?

Another huge help:

Ambulances now bring the ER to you. The tech in emergency vehicles has improved by leaps and bounds over the last decade.

" They cover a wide range of issues. It's not 100% about Trump.

We'll add "outlier" to the list of words you don't understand.

" This is a 3 page document breaking down how domestic terrorism is defined and categorized"

Did you read the part where it almost used my same wording?

Turns out those parents weren't being loud. They were being terrorists. BY DEFINITION.

Time to call it what it is.

What's your definition of terrorism, bellringer? I've already asked once.

" Now you're being obtuse."

Now you're pretending you weren't posting outliers.

"I know some of them got loud. "

Oh, ffs. Loud?!?

You wouldn't think it was just "loud" if it was your family getting death threats.

Try using a little humanity for once. There's a REASON it's called terrorism.

" Biden' handlers took what was a local LE issue and put the FBI on it"

Terrorism is within the purview of the FBI, dumfuq.

Should we discuss what made those folks terrorists? How about we start with the definition of terrorism?

Mine is when someone makes violent or mortal threats toward elected officials, in an attempt to change policies or actions by intimidation or fear.

Every time a parent or guardian threatened a school board with violence or death if they didn't reverse course, by definition, that is terrorism.

Please post your definition. I need to see where we differ.

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Those articles are stating obvious facts.

But wow ... one non-fluff a month!

And still: no mentions of the 100+ instances. Were they unaware as well, or were they aware and just hiding it from you?

" NRO is very critical of Trump"

Yet they didn't touch any of the 100+ instances ... so ... not really.

" I meant to say I also read what gets posted at Realclearpolitics."

Yet none of your sources covered any of Trump's 100+ instances.

What does that say about your varied sources?

" You need more than just his statements"

ANOTHER poster with "varied" news sources, all of whom have NEVER aired anything but pro-Trump fluff.

" I just not aware of what you are claiming."

Did y'all catch that?

It happened over 100 times, and Bellringer wasn't aware of ANY of them.

Isn't he the guy who promoted varying one's news sources?

His posts read like his "varied" sources are NRO, Redstate, and the Daily Stormer.

" You really are a sore loser

Not when I win, like I did here.

You, OTOH, are rounding first in your home-run trot while the catcher is holding strike three.

" What point does your point make?"

Well, the original point was that for the first time in our lives, we haven't had any attending physician follow-up after a presidential assassination attempt.

But now, though, the point is you're an idiot for making me explain the obvious.

"I don't know what you think that proves"

My point.

It proves my point.