Monday, October 14, 2024

Trump Reveals Plans to Squash Dissent

Donald Trump threatened to use the military to squash dissent after the election in an interview with Fox News Sunday.

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"I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even the people who have come in [and destroyed] our country," he said.

"We have some very bad people, sick people, radical left lunatics. And it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military."

Um... the Military Brass' Constitutional duty is to put down Insurrections, not support them.

And they hate his slimy, overflowing guts anyway. He'll be the first to go.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-13 10:32 PM

FTA:

Fox News host Maria Bartiromo set Trump up to expound on his campaign's ongoing smearing of immigrants. Trump didn't take her up on the offer, instead choosing to focus on American citizens who disagree with his platform.

Echoing rhetoric he shared at his outwardly racist rally in Aurora, Colorado earlier this week, Trump called left-wing dissenters "the enemy within" and said that any uproar over his potential second-term could be put down by the military.

"I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even the people who have come in [and destroyed] our country," he said. "We have some very bad people, sick people, radical left lunatics. And it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military."


And just an FYI, Trump has called Kamala Harris "a radical left lunatic:
Trump Calls Kamala Harris 'Lunatic' In First Rally Since Biden Exit

Donald Trump launched a volley of attacks against US Vice President Kamala Harris Wednesday, calling her a "radical left lunatic" in his first rally since she became the de facto Democratic Party nominee for November's election.

In a speech where he also claimed that Harris was in favor of the "execution" of babies due to her position on abortions, the former president and Republican nominee said: "She is a radical left lunatic who will destroy our country."

www.barrons.com

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-13 10:33 PM

Trump has also labeld Walz as a dangerous, radical liberal:

Trump and allies attack Walz as 'dangerously liberal'

The Trump campaign and leading Republicans have launched their first attacks on Tim Walz, labelling him as "far left", "dangerously liberal" and a "radical".

Kamala Harris said she chose the Minnesota governor as her running-mate for "his convictions on fighting for middle class families".

Donald Trump wrote on social media that Mr Walz would "unleash HELL ON EARTH and open our borders to the worst criminals".

JD Vance, Trump's choice for vice-president, said that Mr Walz was on the "far left" of the Democratic party, and chosen because Ms Harris was a "radical herself".

www.bbc.com

#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-13 10:38 PM

Democrats accusing ANYONE of squashing dissent is really rich once they are the party of censorship.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-13 10:44 PM

Hey look at the toad come on and deflect from his fascist god.

---- off pos.

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-13 10:46 PM

Folks ike Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Anne Applebaum, who study and write about authoritarianism, are trying to warn us:

'Totally illegal': Trump escalates rhetoric on outlawing political dissent and criticism

"This is out of the autocratic playbook. As autocrats consolidate their power once they're in office, anything that threatens their power ... becomes illegal," historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat said.

Donald Trump is ramping up his rhetoric depicting his political rivals and critics as criminals, while dropping a long trail of suggestions that he favors outlawing political speech that he deems misleading or challenges his claims to power.

In a speech Friday in Aurora, Colorado, the Republican presidential nominee blasted the immigration system and lobbed a rhetorical grenade at his Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.

"She's a criminal. She's a criminal," said Trump, who was found guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in his New York hush money trial. "She really is, if you think about it."


www.nbcnews.com

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-13 10:57 PM

"Folks ike Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Anne Applebaum, who study and write about authoritarianism, are trying to warn us:"

And Heather Cox Richardson as well:

Trump's behavior is Authoritarianism 101. In a 1951 book called The True Believer, political philosopher Eric Hoffer noted that demagogues appeal to a disaffected population whose members feel they have lost the power they previously held, that they have been displaced either religiously, economically, culturally, or politically. Such people are willing to follow a leader who promises to return them to their former positions of prominence and thus to make the nation great again.

But to cement their loyalty, the leader has to give them someone to hate. Who that is doesn't really matter: the group simply has to be blamed for all the troubles the leader's supporters are suffering. Trump has kept his base firmly behind him by demonizing immigrants, the media, and, increasingly, Democrats, deflecting his own shortcomings by blaming these groups for undermining him.

heathercoxrichardson.substack.com

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-13 11:04 PM

go burn a book, jeff.

#8 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-13 11:04 PM

Just to be clear, this rhetoric is unprecedented and bodes ill for our nation.

No other presidential candidate has EVER spoken like this. Nixon came closest to this, in private

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-13 11:14 PM

As abusive as domestic issues like this can be, no American living at home has to worry about western bombs being dropped on their houses.

Foreign abuses get less attention than domestic issues because they are inflicted upon strangers in other countries instead of upon our friends and neighbors, and because the vast majority of the mass media work tirelessly to convince us that those foreign abuses are good and necessary for our security. But they are actually the worst.

Foreign abuses also get less attention than domestic issues because opposition to foreign abuses puts one at odds with mainstream western political parties and the vast majority who support them.

But the biggest reason why foreign abuses get less attention than domestic ones is because of the propaganda. War and militarism is the glue that holds the Empire together, so our governments and politicians and policy shapers do everything they can to keep us arguing about domestic policy at the expense of caring much about foreign policy.

Many in the media wildly exaggerate the differences between the two mainstream political factions while downplaying the empire's foreign abuses as normal, acceptable and nothing to be that concerned about, because the last thing they want is the rise of a robust antiwar movement in America (and other powerful western countries).

#10 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-10-13 11:22 PM

No other presidential candidate has EVER spoken like this. Nixon came closest to this, in private

#9 | Posted by truthhurts

He's says the quiet parts out loud.

The GOP is little but junior fascists who bend the knee to Trump and will willingly destroy 250+ years of democracy.

#11 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-13 11:24 PM

Trump's plan is to wage a domestic war.

Putin will be pleased.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-13 11:44 PM

Trump is a moron who says stupid and reckless stuff.

Dems have created an entire censorship regime. They've abused their powers to target their political opponents.

I am far more concerned with what Democrats and their allies have been doing and will only continue to do even more if they retain power.

#13 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-14 12:03 AM

#13 | Posted by BellRinger

You have conscious "Psychological Projection" down pat!

What Is Psychological Projection"And How Does It Impact Mental Health?

Projection is a type of psychological defense mechanism in which a person, consciously or unconsciously, attributes their own thoughts, feelings or traits onto another person or group.

"Instead of acknowledging and dealing with [their] feelings, individuals project them onto others, believing that others possess the same qualities or feelings," says Joe Vaccaro, Psy.D.

www.newporthealthcare.com

#14 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-14 12:46 AM

Democrats accusing ANYONE of squashing dissent is really rich once they are the party of censorship.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger

Can't FF this laughable nonsense enough.

Don't worry, gutes Deutsch, I'm sure you'll be left alone in peace if only your comply.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2024-10-14 09:24 AM

" #15 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2024-10-14 09:24 AM | FLAG: "

I like you like me to provide receipts? Ah, never mind. Every time I have in the past you just Pooh Pooh the evidence staring you in the face. You've always demonstrated a love affair with left wing government partnering with the private sector to censor disfavored speech.

#16 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-14 11:51 AM

Apparently Jeffy prefers the rwing government ignoring election results and running illegal and violent coup scams to destroy democracy and install authoritarian dictators.

And, of course, by 'disfavored speech' he means outright lies and fake news.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-14 01:07 PM

#16 nope. Try again, sport.

The "twitter files" were a bust. SCOTUS refused to even hear a case on the topic because there was no standing because no censorship was shown to have occurred.

You're a gullible fool believing fairy tales.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2024-10-14 01:15 PM

I like you like me to provide receipts? Ah, never mind. Every time I have in the past you just Pooh Pooh the evidence staring you in the face. You've always demonstrated a love affair with left wing government partnering with the private sector to censor disfavored speech.

#16 | Posted by BellRinger

Oh Jeffy, are you still salty the REPUBLICAN APPOINTED Supreme Court said that wasn't happening?

Twitter User: "I'm a fake doctor and eating rat poison cures COVID! Do it!"
Jeff: "Free Speech!"
Twitter User: "I'm a Russian troll farm trying to stir up violence!"
Jeff: "Free Speech!"
Twitter User: "The Republican Supreme Court ignores the Constitution."
Jeff: "BAN THEM! BAN THEM AND ARREST THEM!"
Twitter User: "Cisgender."
Jeff: "EXECUTE THEM!"

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-10-14 01:26 PM

Hey, Sycophant (and here's Sycophant's sage advice):

Is Bellringer the former JeffJ, or is he the former JeffinDenmark?

#20 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-14 01:30 PM

You've always demonstrated a love affair with left wing government partnering with the private sector to censor disfavored speech.

#16 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You always choose to side with an evil demonic spawn from hell.

You CHOOSE to spread lies and misinformation.

Only the Gawds knows why.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-14 01:31 PM

" The "twitter files" were a bust."

By what metric? Oh, that's right, simply because you say so.

"SCOTUS refused to even hear a case on the topic because there was no standing because no censorship was shown to have occurred."

You don't understand standing. What SCOTUS said was the particular group that brought the suit didn't have standing. They did not say no censorship occurred. Musk and Zuckerberg have made it very clear that it did occur. So did Jack Dorsey.

But you be you. Keep cheering it on.

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-14 04:14 PM

#19. You are like a pyromaniac in a field of straw. That was weak even by your low standard.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-14 04:15 PM

As for this thr3ad topic, when I watched the video clip it was obvious he was talking about squashing violence.

Like a fiery but mostly peaceful protest.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-14 04:17 PM

By what metric? Oh, that's right, simply because you say so.

By any metric that's reasonable.

We were promised earth shattering revelations and we got "meh, they asked us to remove stuff that was misinformation and we did."

An occurrence that was hardly new.

As for standing, I understand it just fine. ACB wasn't impressed along with five other justices because there wasn't any evidence of censorship.

Just read the majority opinion from Murthy v Missouri. It doesn't say what you think it says.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2024-10-14 04:34 PM

BALLWASHER THE CLOWN STOOPS TO NEW LOW. SAD!

#26 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-14 04:36 PM

"You've always demonstrated a love affair with left wing government partnering with the private sector to censor disfavored speech."

What a coincidence.

You've never demonstrated a single example of actual censorship; you merely pretend if the editorial board agreed with the government... that was CENSORSHIP, when the fact is, it's only if the editorial board DISAGREES, and is FORCED to take actions they don't want to take.

Again, not a single example of censorship, at least not with The Twitter Files.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-14 04:39 PM

It's hilarious really... literally dozens of Trumps top aides and lawyers testify to his crimes, but to Jeffy they must all be Dem Crisis Actors.

He should have stuck to BBQ.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-14 04:42 PM

"Like a fiery but mostly peaceful protest."

I hope you're not referring to J6. According to the BLM barometer, J6 was 100% violent.

By comparison, over 10,000 BLM protests, 93% completely peaceful.

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-14 04:43 PM

#29. Over a dozen killed during BLM riots. $2 Billion in property damage. Livelihoods lost. Over 1000 police officers injured. Most of the people protesting on J6 didn't even enter the capitol. Are you calling that violent?
Of the 800 or so who entered the capitol, over 500 didn't break or vandalize anything and didn't engage in any kind of assault. Are you calling those people violent?

As for censorship, SCOTUS has ruled the government cannot get the private sector to a ton its behalf with action that the Constitution prohibits the government from doing. That is what happened and Musk and now Zuckerberg have exposed it.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-14 05:31 PM

" Harris: Well, there are approximately 5 million, to your point Craig. We have to have a buyback program and I support a mandatory buyback program. It's got to be smart, we got to do it the right way, but there are 5 million at least some estimate as many as 10 million and we're going to have to have smart public policy that's about taking those off the streets."

www.nraila.org

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-14 05:45 PM

@#6 ... 'Totally illegal': Trump escalates rhetoric on outlawing political dissent and criticism

"This is out of the autocratic playbook. As autocrats consolidate their power once they're in office, anything that threatens their power ... becomes illegal," historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat said.

Donald Trump is ramping up his rhetoric depicting his political rivals and critics as criminals, while dropping a long trail of suggestions that he favors outlawing political speech that he deems misleading or challenges his claims to power.

Yup.

Fmr Pres Trump is looking to squash political dissent and criticism, especially from his political opponents.

Trump tested the limits on using the military at home. If elected again, he plans to go further
apnews.com

... "I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within," Trump said. He added: "We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they're the big " and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can't let that happen."

Trump has repeatedly invoked the phrase "enemy from within" in recent speeches.

On Saturday, he used it to refer to Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., a prominent Trump critic who oversaw the congressional investigation that led to Trump's first impeachment. Schiff is now running for the Senate. ...


#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-14 05:48 PM

Trump: "I will start a domestic war!"

BullBringer: "But Harris!"

You really are fkkking stupid.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-14 05:49 PM

"Of the 800 or so who entered the capitol, over 500 didn't break or vandalize anything and didn't engage in any kind of assault. Are you calling those people violent?"

Of course not. Nor are you calling the BLM folks who didn't riot, rioters.

But if it was one of the 7% of BLM protests which DID have violence, ANY violence, that was deemed violent.

Just like J6 was violent, using the same barometer.

Do you agree J6 would be put in the "violent" column if it were judged by the same metric as as the BLM protests?

So 93% of the BLM protests were peaceful, and 0% of J6.

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-10-14 07:46 PM

Touche!:

Angry Staffer
@Angry_Staffer
Trump says he'll order the US military to go after United States citizens.

For a guy who says he doesn't know anything about Project 2025, he sure does regurgitate a lot of their rhetoric.

#35 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-10-14 07:49 PM

@#35 ... For a guy who says he doesn't know anything about Project 2025, he sure does regurgitate a lot of their rhetoric. ...

Trump's protests aside, his agenda has plenty of overlap with Project 2025
apnews.com

... Donald Trump insists that Project 2025, a nearly 1,000-page blueprint for a hard-right turn in American government and society, does not reflect his priorities for a White House encore.

"I haven't read it. I don't want to read it -- purposefully," the Republican presidential nominee said Sept. 10 on the debate stage.

Yet from economics, immigration and education policy to civil rights and foreign affairs, there are common ideas and shared ideology between Project 2025 and Trump's outline for another term -- from his official "Agenda 47" slate, the Republican platform he personally approved and his other statements. ...



#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-14 08:03 PM

Trump Took Private Flight with Project 2025 Leader (August 2024)
politicalwire.com

... "Donald Trump has repeatedly denied knowing about the Project 2025 policy blueprint or the people behind it," the Washington Post reports.

"But in April 2022, Trump shared a 45-minute private flight with Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts, according to people familiar with the trip, plane-tracking data and a photograph from on board the plane, which has not been previously reported. They flew together to a Heritage conference where Trump delivered a keynote address that gestured to Heritage's forthcoming policy proposals."

Said Trump: "They're going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do." ...


#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-14 08:04 PM

#34. I disagree with your premise. Here's why: the BLM protests lasted months. And of the 7% that were violent the numbers (deaths, police injuries, lost livelihoods, property damage) were all exponentially worse than J6.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-14 09:11 PM

1. Trump is talking about sending the National Guard or the military after "radical left lunatics" and "illegals".

2. Trump has already sent an armed mob after his Vice President. When he says that, he MEANS it.

#39 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-15 01:12 PM

#38 | Posted by JeffJ Bellringer at 2024-10-14 09:11 PM | Reply | Flag: Source of JeffJ Bellringer's "opinions"

Oh, and JeffJ Bellringer, do you still have this book?

You know, the one I had the author personally sign for you ("To JeffJ..."), and that I snail-mailed to you?

Just curious, JeffJ.

Thanks.

#40 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-15 01:26 PM

"go burn a book, jeff. -

#8 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-13 11:04 PM

I wonder if JeffJ/Bellringer would burn this book.

He certainly didn't learn from it (if he even read it!).

#41 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-15 01:42 PM

"Dems have created an entire censorship regime. They've abused their powers to target their political opponents." -

#13 | Posted by Bellringer at 2024-10-14 12:03 AM

Is that why you no longer post here as JeffJ?

Inquiring minds want to know.

#42 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-15 03:24 PM

JFC

Trump threatens to use the military against anybody who disagrees with him and JEFF knee-jerkingly just has to distract, first by --------- Trump's actual words and then deflecting the thread to "Dem censorship" and "BLM riots."

Nice self-own, you fool.

Swallow it.

#43 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-10-15 07:34 PM

Let's squash Trump!

And I hope current and former military remember he called the fallen "losers and suckers."

All Gave Some
Some Gave All

One had bone spurs

#44 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-16 01:49 AM

I wish I could say this was a mind blowing revelation on the part of Trump. It's not. He's fermenting the idea in the fermented minds of his rabid followers so when it happens and they don't revolt and when it turns on them it is too late.

When they came... etc.

#45 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-10-16 03:23 PM

Trump is a moron who says stupid and reckless stuff.
Yes and then acts on it. Do you need an actual list?

Dems have created an entire censorship regime. They've abused their powers to target their political opponents.
Perhaps you care to illustrate that with an actual list? Convicted felons pardoned or not is not "abusing power" but rather enforcing the law.

I am far more concerned with what Democrats and their allies have been doing and will only continue to do even more if they retain power.
Oh pray, do tell (looking for a bag of chips...)

#13 | Posted by BellRinger
It is posts like this that illustrate to me how baked or sodden the minds hard right folks are

" Harris: Well, there are approximately 5 million, to your point Craig. We have to have a buyback program and I support a mandatory buyback program. It's got to be smart, we got to do it the right way, but there are 5 million at least some estimate as many as 10 million and we're going to have to have smart public policy that's about taking those off the streets."
#31 | Posted by BellRinger

And we have deflection to 2A. 2A's current interpretation is bought and paid for. In large part with Russian money in recent years as it turned out. She is for smart gun control of AR style weapons. What is your point? We highly control and ban fully automatic machine guns right?
My neighbor who I thought was otherwise a great guy put up his gun owners for Trump flag. We got to talking about politics because or our Harris sign. Him:"Aren't you afraid of the government taking your guns? Me: No, I have no concern about that and I bet I have several times as many as you. Him: I don't think so, there is no way you would vote for Harris if you were a gun guy. We then compare notes, he doesn't believe me so I start listing them and then show him. Turns out I have over 5 times as many guns as him... (Note one or two MIGHT fall under a ban and I would happily surrender and replace them.)

#46 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-10-16 03:43 PM

!@13 ... Dems have created an entire censorship regime. ...

So, it should be easy to provide a list of censorship occurrences. ...


#47 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-16 04:03 PM

Bellinger:

there's a pretty good reason why you are getting all of those funny flags.
It's just not the reason you'd like it to be.

#48 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-10-16 05:07 PM

It's for his coveted, most responded poster award.

Year is almost over and he's well in the lead.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-16 05:12 PM

!@13 ... Dems have created an entire censorship regime. ...

So, it should be easy to provide a list of censorship occurrences. ...

#47 | Posted by LampLighter

All he has ever come up with is a doctor who was kicked out of several courts for not being a credible expert was no longer promoted on Twitter. Not censored, just not promoted.

#50 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-10-16 05:13 PM

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